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    Default No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    I was really surprised to find that my local Home Depot has sold out of Mags and won't be getting any more in. Looks like they have been replaced with loads of cheaper/higher profit margin lights.

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    The HDs by me sold out of all of their Mags and Rayovac Indestructibles and replaced with a bunch of cr@p defiant/husky/coast/Milwaukee junk – a lot of it priced about as much (or more) than what Maglites sold for. Mag can still be ordered site to store but it sucks that you can’t walk into the local home depot and buy a decent flashlight.


    Walmart seems to be closing out a lot of their Mags as well.

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    Without knowing what really happened I speculate Maglite has seen sales drop enough to not re-enter into contracts with the big box stores. Perhaps big box stores have not invited Maglite back due to slumping sales too. But at my local Wally World, big orange store and Lowes flashlights in general collect dust these days. Bushnell, Rayovac, Coast no longer fly off the shelves either.

    It does make me wonder why they liquidated Rayovacs and Maglites but not Ozark Trails and Coasts.

    The LED flashlight craze has likely peeked across America and everybody who wants one has one. But I do miss having the opportunity to snag yet another triple a minimag each time I go to buy nails or paint.
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    They have got to be making higher profits on stuff like coasts - looks good on the outside but cheaply made. Store brands like ozark, defiant and husky I would guess have even higher mark ups.

    Seem like many people just use their phones or get one of those atomic Navy SEAL lights. If they buy from a big box store, they probably look for something cheap that (supposedly) has the highest lumens.

    Maglite has done a great job keeping prices down, build quality up while still making Mags in the USA, but it must be getting harder for them to compete for the shrinking flashlight self space in big box stores.

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    Even as a hardcore incandescent guy, I continually scratch my head at the fact that Maglite still sells several incandescent lights. And scratch my head even further wondering why people still buy them, considering there are floods of tiny LED lights that are 5 times brighter and run 10 times longer, for the same money, or less in most cases right there on the same shelf.

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    I of course do not have any evidence of this but it’s POSSIBLE that Maglite increased its profit margin at Walmart’s expense OR would not adjust their profit margins and Walmart might have decided to go with manufacuturers whose lights customers will buy while maintaining the same profit margin.

    Maglite needs to rethink its decision unless Walmart was quite unreasonable.

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    Once WallMart buckeled and stopped selling pistol ammo and 5.56 i have not set foot in one. Don’t care what they sell for flashlights since they gave in to the bloomberg crowd.
    They are going after a new type of customer these days.

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    Not a Maglite to be had in person anywhere in my area, none at HD, Tractor Supply, or Walmart. LED or incan...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetThereBeLight! View Post
    I of course do not have any evidence of this but it’s POSSIBLE that Maglite increased its profit margin at Walmart’s expense OR would not adjust their profit margins and Walmart might have decided to go with manufacuturers whose lights customers will buy while maintaining the same profit margin.

    Maglite needs to rethink its decision unless Walmart was quite unreasonable.
    More likely the other way around. Every year the big box stores put the squeeze on manufactures to give them lower prices.

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    ^^ that was my thought too.
    And perhaps the clearance sales were the box stores having a tantrum.
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    Default Re: No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    +

    I have two (2)D-cell Mags w/ led emitter setups, if anyone's interested.

    also: they were stock incans that I put drop-ins' into
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    Granger is selling Maglite products now. They are where I found the updated 2D classic two setting light (after learning about it here). They are an industrial supplier who sell all kinds of work gear like bicycles trucks for factories and reflective clothing for tow truck drivers…… stuff like that, so it kinda makes sense they'd be selling Maglite products.

    A lot of folks did not like the so-called low setting being nearly as bright as the high on the new classic 2D but if/when duty calls for all night use or extended underground use it really makes sense. Nearly the same brightness to provide a typical Maglite S&R/duty light with 10x the runtime.

    I still don't see those at Maglite or any other Maglite online seller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Granger is selling Maglite products now. They are where I found the updated 2D classic two setting light (after learning about it here). They are an industrial supplier who sell all kinds of work gear like bicycles trucks for factories and reflective clothing for tow truck drivers…… stuff like that, so it kinda makes sense they'd be selling Maglite products.

    A lot of folks did not like the so-called low setting being nearly as bright as the high on the new classic 2D but if/when duty calls for all night use or extended underground use it really makes sense. Nearly the same brightness to provide a typical Maglite S&R/duty light with 10x the runtime.

    I still don't see those at Maglite or any other Maglite online seller.
    In my opinion, one of the most interesting products we've seen from Maglite is the anomaly called the ML25IT, I believe you posted a thread about it. How strange for a company to actually develop an incandescent from the group up in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DayofReckoning View Post
    In my opinion, one of the most interesting products we've seen from Maglite is the anomaly called the ML25IT, I believe you posted a thread about it. How strange for a company to actually develop an incandescent from the group up in this day and age.
    Don't think it's ground up. Light is incan version of their led model. Good light in either case.
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    The ML25IT, the maxi-mini-mig.
    Actually somebody else started the IT version thread where he enquired about hot wiring one. Later he actually modified (iirc) a Streamlight Stinger incan reflector to fit one and used high power batteries to make miniature ROP of sorts. All I did was experiment with achieving a brighter output that wouldn't melt the stock lens and reflector. 6 volts from LifePo batteries in a 2 cell version with a 4 cell bulb is about as bright as the LED version. And 1amp 18650's in a 3 cell version with a Streamlight TL3 bulb was pretty good too. But op's with metal reflector, high output batteries and glass lens was much brighter.

    Vesture of Blood milled a 2 cell body into a 1 cell size and added a custom LED in a one of a kind. That one was pretty cool.

    I used to wonder if Tony and the gang built the incan version first or the LED version. Both versions were available in 2 or 3 cell platforms when they first arrived. Heck Maglite even updated the IT in 2018 saying "even brighter". But now their website is absent of any incan lights.

    I kinda figured perhaps there were a million light bulbs leftover from production and clever Tony decided to sell them instead of trashing them so he had an incan version of the ML25 built. Then one of his lab coat wearing minions said "boss, we gotta do it in LED Too".
    At one point I pondered if it were an experiment to see how the market would react to the warm beam versus cool beam in the ML25 in 2016/17. Hard to know what really happened.
    Either way, I grabbed a few ML25IT lights back then. My blue one is SN 0000000017.

    Anyway, yeah it's going to be a drag not being able to find Maglite products in the big box stores anymore. Sign of the times I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Without knowing what really happened I speculate Maglite has seen sales drop enough to not re-enter into contracts with the big box stores. Perhaps big box stores have not invited Maglite back due to slumping sales too. But at my local Wally World, big orange store and Lowes flashlights in general collect dust these days. Bushnell, Rayovac, Coast no longer fly off the shelves either.

    It does make me wonder why they liquidated Rayovacs and Maglites but not Ozark Trails and Coasts.

    The LED flashlight craze has likely peeked across America and everybody who wants one has one. But I do miss having the opportunity to snag yet another triple a minimag each time I go to buy nails or paint.
    Regarding Ozark trails,
    First of all it is a Walmart brand, probably made to their specs, and as cheaply as possible (leading to better profit margins).
    I took one of their 3D cell lanterns apart. It was direct drive with two different resistors, switch selectable, to give a high and a low. Certainly cheaper than an actual driver. Also, IIRC, nothing was screwed together, but rather the metal backing plate for the LED had little holes in it, and was laid over a few, molded in, plastic posts, that were melted to secure it in place, probably by a robot. The other components were glued together. one would have to break it to get it apart. So it is not serviceable. It wasn't poorly made, but certainly not maglite quality.

    Years ago when shopping for a BBQ grill, I discovered that a home and garden center carried a particular brand of grill, with stainless steel cooking surface grill. The HD had the same model grill at a lower price, but it had a non-coated cast iron cooking surface grill. I wanted stainless, and I paid a bit more at the garden center. There the man told me that the cast grills were custom made for the HD so that they could come in at the price point that HD wanted. That Garden center closed its doors three years ago.

    Yeah... the big box stores are putting the little shops, and not so little shops, out of business.
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    Yup sign of the times for sure. I sort of noticed when we no longer saw MagLED lights on Black Fridays on sale wondering if either they couldn't generate enough interest or profit from them. I think Mag should have made a clicky 2AA and 1AA LED light and an 18650 built in rechargeable light line in stores plus maybe even a 3 or 4AA side by side short light instead of multiple AAA lights which are not impressive over time smart people who buy these lights replace them with ones with more respectable runtimes and output.
    I think one big unexpected competitor that helped fuel Mags demise is the Smart Phone Light App. I haven't had a Smart Phone very long in fact I rarely use it for a flashlight as I'm so used to dragging my keychain light out of my pocket even when I have my phone one me but I've noticed most people who are a lot younger than me when in the dark grab their phone light very very few reach for a flashlight so I'm guessing a lot of these folks who decide they do need a light to preserve phone batteries may grab a cheap light instead of investing in a higher priced minimag that doesn't have a touch switch (or even clicky) do these folks even know how to twist a light on?
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    Default Re: No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    I've also noticed a dearth of Maglites in my area. Luckily, I managed to score 3D incandescent before they vanished completely. Of course, I know I could order one if I wanted. Echoing what Bykfixer said, there's just something about grabbing one off the rack while you're shopping for other things. I'm not a fan of the Defiant brand they sell now. I bought one a few years ago but it failed within a week of gentle use.
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    I wonder why Maglite has never done a 1aa. A Solitaire with better runtime.

    Probably too little too late now but I'm just pondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    I wonder why Maglite has never done a 1aa. A Solitaire with better runtime.

    Probably too little too late now but I'm just pondering.
    I'd like to see that, but like you said... probably too late.

    I've noticed most people who are a lot younger than me when in the dark grab their phone light very very few reach for a flashlight
    I noticed the same. Once in a walmart, there was a brief power outage, and I was stunned at how quickly people were able to reach for their phone and turn on the flashlight app.
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    A AA Solitaire would be cool.

    I also would like an AA Mag Tac, preferably with a metal clip and a 1 C XL200 or XL50.

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    I noticed the same. Once in a walmart, there was a brief power outage, and I was stunned at how quickly people were able to reach for their phone and turn on the flashlight app.
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    We here at CPF all know it's better to carry a dedicated flashlight. However, I think more and more people having access to a light during an emergency situation is a good thing.

    Back on track - The last two EDC Mags I purchased died in less than a week. I'll always be thankful Maglite's quality prompted me to find CPF.
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    I know some of the early LED Mags were problematic but none of my incans or LED Mags have ever failed functionally. Only issue I ever encountered was bulb failure in the old incan Mini-Mags,the bulbs never seemed to be all that robust. Looking at the current B&M store selections outside of Mags I don't think many of those lights are very good quality,certainly not in the class of Maglites.

    Hate to see Mags dropped from B&M stores but it looks like that is the direction things are headed. I believe the Walmarts and Home Depots close by still have Mags but it is a limited selection and I am not sure they are re-stocking any. The hardware stores and a local surplus store still carry Mags but I wonder if the hardwares will start following suit as well.Profit margins on Mags has to be significantly less than the other cheap lights they offer.

    Honestly most consumers seem to use low price as their primary consideration when buying a flashlight. A while back someone came to do some plumbing work on the house.Seeing all the flashlights I have displayed he remarked that he just gets the free ones at Harbor Freight. Don't get me wrong those may put out light but are pretty much throw away in terms of quality. I have yet to see any of the maintenance folks at work carry any higher end light though at least a few do have Maglites.
    I respectfully reserve the right to purchase yet another light......

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    Back in the incan day, I had a maglite in each car and one under the workbench. I only had one 3 C cell light and really liked it's feel.
    Before I switched to 18650 lights, I bought a 3D LED mag. I gave it to my dad, and he loved/s it.

    2 1/2 years ago I moved, and some lights got packed into a box that hasn't been opened yet, and it has a 2AA mag pro that I really like. It has alkaleeks in it I hope it doesn't get ruined before I find it. I like the smoothness of the body, it seems elegant.

    Back in the day most households had a 2D incan light that you had to bang on the side now and then and we all got by with them. Today a cell phone gives more, and more consistent light than one of those 2D incans did. Therefore it is understandable that most people can get by with just their phone, most of the time. Even those free 9 led 3AAA harbor freight are better than the 2D incans of yester-year. Therefore it is only mildly surprising that flashlight sales have declined. As already stated, perhaps those who need them already bought them.

    I don't know why I am rambling, but to say that I am sorry to see that my HD isn't stocking maglites anymore either.
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    Yup, the ole wack-a-palm flashlight trick. If it work you got a decent amount of light from your Rayovac or Eveready flashlight. Then Maglite showed up and changed it all for the do it yourself-er types.
    Leaking batteries were just the price paid for getting fire on a stick from an electric source at one time. Not all batteries leaked though but right many did.

    The average Joe or Jane these days using a celphone for a flashlight is one of the reasons smart phones took off in the early days of smart phones. My first smartphone was acquired for use as a portable tool. Bubble level, compass, calculator, type writer, weather radar and yes a flashlight. What sold me was an app that could ID a song I was hearing in a store or restaraunt. Later I discovered you could download that song and listen to it from that portable tool as well.

    When I showed a boss my pocket tool he said "when are you ever going to grow up?" until the day I converted fractions of an inch into tenths of a foot for a bridge plan that one page was in fractions but he needed tenths of a foot to answer a question.

    Meanwhile I thought my incan minimag was still the best flashlight ever made. That was around 2014.

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    Looking at Walmart today there were Mags there were on clearance. I passed on the good prices since I already purchased a NOS 3C incan Mag at the surplus store but they did have the newer ML25 2C with 2 levels and the ML300. Couldn't tell for sure if the ML50 was on clearance as I didn't see a tag,seems likely though as it was between the other two.

    The lack of Mags at B&M stores doesn't really affect me too much personally as I have most of what I want but I would rather buy locally when I go after one than online.
    I respectfully reserve the right to purchase yet another light......

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    Default Re: No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    I wonder why Maglite has never done a 1aa. A Solitaire with better runtime.

    Probably too little too late now but I'm just pondering.
    That... Would be a great light. Yeah, I wonder why they never have made one of those.

    Maglites had a time when they were kind of garbage because they struggled, apparently, to make the jump to high quality LED tech, but these days they are again pretty decent lights. Especially if you just want a simple and stylish around-the-house style light.

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    I looked at Maglite sellers online and found the usual box store sites still have them. It also appears the Northern Tool chain is now selling them.

    Wal Mart's Amazon style site has all kinds of them all the way back to incan minimags. There were so dawg gone many Maglites made that it might be years before they are all gone from eBay/Amazon etc sellers. But I just like being able to grab one at my local box store along with inner tubes for my bicycle, a best of the Isley Brothers cd and 6 pack of socks. At least I can still get my socks there……
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    Default Re: No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    Currently headed to my local HD to pick up a 2D. Really hoping this isn't nationwide...

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    Default Re: No more Mags at my local Home Depot

    Amazon Canada has Mags on for absolutely ridiculous price$. When/if I see them in Canadian stores it's not much different. D cell dont even get my attention, I like my lights small and pocketable with long run-times and sub lumen outputs.

    On St. Incans day I brought out my classic 2D mag, with fresh cells, fired it up and was saddened at the sheer size and it's meager output. The tint was nice and I remember its uses with nostalgia. Beyond that, any one of my 1AA lights just completely outperforms it in every way possible. Even my AAA lights are superior to it.

    I would venture to say that the general public don't want a light that can double as a billy club or bat. Lights that are the size of a forearm are viewed as old tech, sadly even Mags high output C/Dcell versions get a bad rap because they look like there incan predecessors.
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