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    Default The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Group buy is COMPLETE! Thank you everyone for being apart of making the W M61 LLLL happen!




    All Dropins have shipped! Most should be arriving between now and Saturday CONUS. edit 4/9/20



    Most of the Dropins have been shipped, all tracking numbers currently sent for users who paid shipping. edit
    4/7/20

    Your dropins are lonely people, help me help them help you!



    LEDs shipped to Gene, they will arrive Monday 3/9/20. He estimates 4 weeks for completion from reception of LEDs. edit 3/5/20



    This is a Group Buy for an M61W LLLL 3000K 90CRI dropin. That's FOUR (4) Ls everyone. Say it with me: low low low low


    There is a minimum order quantity of 20 units, CONUS shipping only, further upon special arrangement. Prepay price is $47 (This is the cost of the drop-in from Gene and the cost of the LED), plus shipping to be calculated later (assume $8.30~ for Priority Flat Rate)

    20 is the minimum and I will do my best to include everyone who signs up prior to March 1st, 2020.

    If this sounds interesting, read onÖ

    All communication should take place in the comments for transparency. I wonít respond to PMs regarding this GB unless otherwise arranged. The exception is for non CONUS or international shipping inquiries.


    Phase 1 ĖSign-Up:

    - Indicate your willingness to participate in the group buy by posting the following in the comments: ďIím in for QTY xĒ
    - Posting that you want to participate is a firm commitment to buy. Others are depending on you! Donít indicate that youíre going to participate if youíre ďjust thinking about it.Ē Think about it first, then decide, then sign-up.
    - Sign-up will last through 2359 hours on March 1st, 2020.
    - If we donít get to 20, then we will shut down.

    20 is the minimum and I will do my best to include everyone who signs up prior to March 1st.

    Phase 2 Ė Pre-Pay:

    - If we get at least 20 buyers, you send $48.67 to me via PayPal Goods and Services. This breaks down to $47.00 for dropin and LED, plus PP feested price.
    - PP G&S protects you through Purchase Protection, so no gnashing of teeth over the small extra amount.
    - Exact details on the information to send with your PP will be provided later!
    - Pre-pay will last through 2359 hours on March 7th, 2020.
    - If some buyers donít pay by the Phase 2 deadline, I will possibly (a) kick in the difference or (b) shut down the GB and refund your money via PP by March 14th, 2020.
    - Once you pay, youíre locked in until (a) you receive your head (b) the GB shuts down or (c) you trade your spot.

    Phase 3 Ė LED ordering/Manufacturing:

    - Once I have the LED's in hand the order will be placed with Gene
    - I will post an update once the LED's have been ordered and have shipping confirmation.
    - We wait ? During this time, I will check in with Gene weekly and post updates in the comments.
    - This phase ends when Gene ships the drop-ins to me.

    Phase 4 Ė Shipping to you:

    - This phase starts when I receive the package from Gene.
    - Assuming we make it this far, you will have 2 weeks to pay exact shipping costs, via Priority Mail Small Flat Rate Box, PLUS an equal share of the bulk shipping cost of all the drop-ins from Gene to me. I will calculate the individual shipping costs later, and post details on how to pay. The USPS website says a small flat rate box is $8.30 CONUS. Add to this your share of bulk shipping from Gene to me. You will pay this via PayPal.
    - I will PM you the tracking number after I ship. Shipping is CONUS only.
    - I will provide an option for insurance, if you want to pay extra for this.
    - Not really sure what to do if you pay for the drop-in, but donít follow up with the shipping cost. I guess I will hang onto it for another 30 days before I can dispose of it as I wish. Doubt we will have this problem.
    - Once I ship to you and provide a tracking number, Iím out of the loop. Iím not responsible for lost or delayed items once USPS is in possession of your drop-in. If youíre worried about this, I will provide an option for USPS insurance.

    ************************************************** ****
    FAQs:

    (1) What is a Malkoff M61W LLLL? What exactly am I purchasing?


    This is the Malkoff Devices P60 style Drop-in LED Upgrade Conversion with solid brass heatsink construction. This is a LLLL- that's FOUR L's (low low low low). Output is estimated to be n the low/ mid 20 lumens. The LED is a Warm White 3000K Cree XP-G2. (XPGBWT-UE-0000-00CE7)


    From the Malkoff Web-site.

    This design utilizes a custom orange peel reflector designed by Don McLeish. The reflector offers a very nice balance between throw and spill. It is an outstanding room lighter and short to medium spotter. It was designed specifically for use in Malkoff MD2, Elzetta ZFL-M60, and SureFire 6P, 9P, 6Z, Z2, Z3, C2, C3, M2, G3, and G2 flashlights. It may or may not fit other models. The input voltage is 3.4 - 9 volts. Below 3.4 volts it will drop out of regulation and run direct drive. This dropin is protected against reverse polarity.

    This Malkoff Upgrade is designed for rugged service from the ground up. It is fully potted to stand up to rough service and recoil. This item is covered by Our Lifetime Warranty

    This GB is for the Drop In only.

    (2) Can I change my mind and back out?

    During Phase 1, yes.

    After you pay in Phase 2, no. Youíre locked in, unless we shut down.

    (3) Can I trade my spot?

    During Phase 1, no need. Just post that you want to be removed from the list.

    If/when we go into Phase 2 and beyond, it depends. If you haven't paid, post that you want out. If we have anyone in spots 26 and up, they will have the option to buy in your place, in ascending order. If youíve already paid me, then the person (in spot 26 and up) taking your place will pay you directly, per your private arrangements. If this happens, both people will need to post publicly in the comments that theyíve worked it out satisfactorily and that Person B is taking Person Aís spot. Again, if youíve already paid, your only way out is to get someone from the backup list to pay you for your spot.

    (3) What tint and emitter?

    - 3000K XP-G2 90CRI. Q4 flux bin. XPGBWT-UE-0000-00CE7

    (4) Minimum order quantity?

    20. If we donít get 20 to sign up or pay, the GB will shut down.

    If we get more than 20, I will do my best to include the additional spots in the order. So if you want one, sign up now!

    (5) How long will it take?

    According to Gene, depending on production time, somewhere between x weeks after Gene has received the LED's. Not x weeks from when you pay.
    -I will confirm and update this post

    (6) How much profit are you making on this group buy?

    $0. The money you pay will transfer entirely to Gene and PayPal. Iím keeping none of it.

    (7) What if Iím dissatisfied with the final product?

    You would contact Gene, not me. Once I ship you the drop-in, Iím out of the loop (make sure you understand the shipping terms).

    Thanks to the following CPF'ers.
    lion504: for letting me use his GB format.
    GreatScoot: for letting me basically copy his M91BN group-buy!

    -Special thanks to Gene for putting up with us crazy CPF'ers and indulging our whims.
    Last edited by dotCPF; 04-09-2020 at 10:51 AM.
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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Group buy List

    1. Jimmyboots Paid bubble
    2. AndyF Paid flat rate
    3. CRKDMike -CANADA Paid
    4. RedLED Paid flat rate
    5. thermal guy Paid bubble
    6. dotCPF Paid
    7. dotCPF Paid
    8. greatscoot Paid flat rate
    9. Russ/TN Paid flat rate
    10. troutpool Paid flat rate
    11. skillet Paid bubble
    12. wicky998 Paid flat rate
    13. Rstype Paid
    14. dotCPF Paid
    15. PoliceScannerMan Paid flat rate
    16. WhiskeyLight Paid
    17. Not So Bright Paid flat rate
    18. BigBurly912 Paid bubble
    19. thermal guy Paid
    20. marco.weiss Paid

    Paid
    Paid


    hron61 Cancelled effective 3/4/20 by user's request


    Last edited by dotCPF; 04-05-2020 at 09:05 PM.
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    Put me down for 1 please.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    I am in for a quantity of one.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    I am in for qty 1

    Iím in CANADA.


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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Can you post what the emitter is please dot, the link doesn't seam to work.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Well, I have one of the original LLLL's from Oveready!

    OK, I'll take another...

    Thats one for me!

    Thanks,

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    Also, make sure they are marked different from the original OR run.
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    One please.

    Whats the runtime on these?

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    Iíll take one as well.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    List updated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tachead View Post
    Can you post what the emitter is please dot, the link doesn't seam to work.

    Sent from my SM-N975W using Tapatalk
    Apologies Tachead, forgot to change out that link. The emitter is a 3000K 90cri XP-G2, Q4 flux bin, XPGBWT-UE-0000-00CE7


    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    .....
    Also, make sure they are marked different from the original OR run.
    Should be only difference is the "W" versus the "N"


    Quote Originally Posted by hron61 View Post
    One please.

    Whats the runtime on these?
    I have a Volt meter on order, i'll measure my current M61N LLLL at 3.6V, 6V, and 9V when I get that in. Next email to Gene and I'll ask him too.
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    I'm in for 1.
    "It's not rocket surgery"

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    Updated!
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    I'll take 1 please.....and thanks
    Russ

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    I am in for one, please.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Other than the original Oveready run, has there been any other LLLL's offered by any one? I looked back on this GB/PA/GA forum, and did not see any.
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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Please note that this is a group buy thread for the 'W' LLLL; thank you in advance.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Sorry, can you please move it to the Malkoff page?

    Thanks-
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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    I really hope these are in the 40-50 ma draw range at 6 volts.Been looking for something in that range for awhile.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    The Oveready NLLLLís drew 40ma at 6 volts. That was some time ago and hopefully these are more efficient.

    Either way, a 40ma dropin should put out what like 80-90hrs of runtime using a 3500mah KP 18650. If my math is right.

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    Thatís what I get as well. Of course it doesnít work like that as the module will draw differently at different voltages.but yep betting she will put out light on a 18650/3500 for close to 90 hours.
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    List Updated

    FWIW my untrustworthy volt meter read 42ma @ 6V
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    Yes! Iíll believe it😁. So what? Half way there?
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Man this is tempting. I havenít bought anything in so long
    Big butnotsomuch-burly

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    I think Iím more excited about this one then I was with the M91GB. To be honest this will get much more use and will probably end up being half the price I shelled out for my 91😁
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Iím in for QTY 1
    I DO NOT HAVE...
    AURORAPHOBIA, OR EOSOPHOBIA, OR EREUTHOBPHOBIA, OR ERYTHROPHOBIA, OR ERYTOPHOBIA, OR PHENGOPHOBIA, OR PHOTOAUGLIAPHOBIA, PHOTOPHOBIA, OR SELAPHOBIA..

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    List updated.

    8 needed, I'm tempted to go for a third!
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    Put me down for 1, dot

    Sorry it took so long I was waiting to see how well the buy was going to go.


    Iím shocked infrnl didnít get a spot yet.


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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    My original OR/Malkoff M61N LLLL is a Cree XP-G2 4000K. As a customer, I would like to ask, how much of a shift to warm from neutral do you think there would be?

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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61W L-L-L-L 90CRI Group Buy!

    Sorry for my ignorance, if we have Geneís hi/low ring in the MD2 body, the max on this LLLL is 20 lumens and then low becomes even lower correct? Any guesses how low?

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