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    Just checking in, seeing the first GB4L got sent out. Now I'm getting excited and that doesn't happen very often. Once again DOT I think I speak for everyone when I say thank you very much. I got a little something extra for you when shipping PM's go out.

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    Heard from Gene last night, sounds like he is going to be rolling on these guys shortly! Will probably have them myself within the next 2 weeks if I had to guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotCPF View Post
    Heard from Gene last night, sounds like he is going to be rolling on these guys shortly! Will probably have them myself within the next 2 weeks if I had to guess.
    Nice, looking forward to these too.
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    Very excited for these too! The SST-20 4000K should be a bit brighter with the same draw, and the 5000K may even be closer to 50 lumens on 50ma draw. That will probably be my car-emergency light!
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    This module in a md4 with dual 18650 3500mah will run for ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish 14 View Post
    This module in a md4 with dual 18650 3500mah will run for ever

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    Very nice slumber

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fish 14 View Post
    This module in a md4 with dual 18650 3500mah will run for ever
    It will run much longer in a MD2 with a single 18650. Trust me.
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    Gotcha. Then the md2 gets it. Thanks

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    Higher the voltage, lower the current. Here are stats on the only other M61NLLLL produced: "Current draw on Oveready's M61N LLLL is 33ma @ 9V, 37ma @ 6V, and 55ma on 1x lithium ion."
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    Yes but running two lithium ion you get more volts but same capacity and as soon as one gets low she will shut off. I did exactly this with my M61LLL V3. MD 4 with 2X18650. Figured she’d run forever. Definitely not the case.i got Much longer runtimes off of a single 18650. Not as bright but when dealing with all them L’s brightness is not the goal.
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    Interesting... For a long time, I avoided multiple cell setups. Then I crunched some numbers based on dotCPFs post about the current draw from the OR run, and I changed my mind. Thanks for explaining. Based on your experience, I'm back to being anti-multiple batts.

    Agree on the lumens vs runtime. I bought the LLLL for the runtime.

    EDIT: Does INFRNL's testing confirm your results?
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    INFRNL hasn't testes a LLLL AFAIK. I will be sending him one of the 4000Ks when they come in.
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    Sorry, should have been more clear in my previous post. TG's 2x18650 results should be applicable to most (if not all?) malkoff M61 drop-ins, right? His post #221 indicates that a LLL dropin powered by 2x18560 ran out of gas BEFORE 1x18650. This is blowing my mind, since physics is telling me the opposite should be true. I'm not doubting his results, just wondering if INFRNL ever saw something similar (in any M61 dropin 0L through 3L) in his testing.
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    I can’t see the post you’re referring to but yes it’s been my experience “and that ain’t much’’ that you will get better results with a single lithium ion as opposed to two. The output will be less but runtimes should be better.
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    Christ now I’m doing it. Let’s take this to the LLLL Thread. Please lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    I can’t see the post you’re referring to ...
    Scroll up on this page to Today, 08:07 AM - post 221.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion504 View Post
    Higher the voltage, lower the current. Here are stats on the only other M61NLLLL produced: "Current draw on Oveready's M61N LLLL is 33ma @ 9V, 37ma @ 6V, and 55ma on 1x lithium ion."
    I still have 2 of these! Also a cracker of a dropin. Love them.
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    wonder how it will do in a hi/lo light……
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    wonder how it will do in a hi/lo light……

    FWIW:

    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...=1#post5381211

    Performance is..... dependent on voltage it would appear. The W LLLL works fine and efficiently with the H/L ring on single cell setups, but not multiple cell setups. With more than one cell (somewhere around 5V+) you get much smaller differences in output, but draw increases for a reasons unknown to me. I'll ask Gene next time he calls.


    Performance was odd on my Oveready M61N LLLL as well, though I cannot recall what I tried that in. I'll remeasure everything about it sometime soon I'm sure, definitely when the rest of these fellas land!
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    Default Re: The Official Malkoff M61N NEUTRAL L-L-L-L Group Buy!

    dot,

    Are you you going to have a way to ID the original OR M61NLLLL models? I was just thinking something like the OR-OR's like ORginial-OverReady, something like that? So it could be the: OR-OR M61NLLLL. These could be ID'ed because they are not numbered.

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    Well ours will have numbers on them right? Also if gene Etches the same way as the W he will put the N before the 61😁
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedLED View Post
    dot,

    Are you you going to have a way to ID the original OR M61NLLLL models? I was just thinking something like the OR-OR's like ORginial-OverReady, something like that? So it could be the: OR-OR M61NLLLL. These could be ID'ed because they are not numbered.

    What do you think?
    I'm not following. Do you mean tell from dropin to dropin visually upon inspection of text inscribed? You are correct, the ORs were not numbered, at least mine isn't. These will also be engraved either "4K/5K" or "4000K/ 5000K" depending on which it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    Well ours will have numbers on them right? Also if gene Etches the same way as the W he will put the N before the 61
    I had thought of that, but I'm not sure which I prefer over the whole scope of the thing.
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    Yes, dot, I was thinking of maybe a way to tell which generation one is as more will, I'm sure, be made in the future. I hope I make sense?
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    Gotchya, I follow. These will be different given the series number and the addition of K temp. If I do more in the future, perhaps a "v2" would be added, but perhaps only if I use different LEDs?
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    @dot, is it official we are getting sst-20, or is it still up in the air?

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    4000K is SST-20. 5000K is XP-G2.
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    Had not heard of the SST until this GB but looking forward to trying it out in a 6P with a clicky tailcap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dotCPF View Post
    Heard from Gene last night, sounds like he is going to be rolling on these guys shortly! Will probably have them myself within the next 2 weeks if I had to guess.

    Hopefully that's a Malkoff 2 weeks and not a Henry 2 weeks
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    😂😂😂. Lol oh I remember that all to well.
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