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    A great day of posts!

    Rich, thank so much for the picture and the comparisons. It's such a small 21700 light and makes the TM9K and NSX3 look huge.

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    Default Re: Lumintop FW21vn Pro - 21700 Compact Powerhouse R

    Quote Originally Posted by richbuff View Post
    I just got my three. Left to right: Nightwatch NSX53, FW21 Pro, FW3a, FW21 Pro, FW4a, FW21 Pro, Emisar, D4V2, Nitecore TM9K. All are Vinh54.

    FW21a Pro: From Off, double click takes you to top of ramp setting. Another double click Turbo.

    From On, double click to Turbo.
    Thanks for the reference pic! It really shows the size of the head much better.
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    I just got this light. Fully stock but its so bright you would think its modded. Lumintop did a awesome job with this one. beam pattern is perfect due to the individual reflector wells. Im not a huge fan of a floody light be this one is so versatile and usable.
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    Default Re: Lumintop FW21vn Pro - 21700 Compact Powerhouse R

    Just placed an order for one. Looking forward to having this much power in a small package.

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    Congrats to the new owners!

    I think it's amazing that something this size reaches that kind of output. I'm eager to see what kind of throw the reflector version turns out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    Congrats to the new owners!

    I think it's amazing that something this size reaches that kind of output. I'm eager to see what kind of throw the reflector version turns out to be.
    so am I. If itís anywhere as good as my d4s v2, Iíll get one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    so am I. If itís anywhere as good as my d4s v2, Iíll get one.

    It might be a bit fewer lumens but the throw ought to be pretty awesome depending on what reflectors fit in that head. I'm hoping we'll see 150+Kcd.

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    Hope the reflector version works well as I also want to get one. Waiting on the numbers.

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    Iíll be curious if there was any optics that will fit this light for a quad w2 or w1.2.
    The d4svn seems to be of same size.....even if the numbers are identical, I still think itís a totally different light. Itís just feels much lighter and smaller because of the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Iíll be curious if there was any optics that will fit this light for a quad w2 or w1.2.
    The d4svn seems to be of same size.....even if the numbers are identical, I still think itís a totally different light. Itís just feels much lighter and smaller because of the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Iíll be curious if there was any optics that will fit this light for a quad w2 or w1.2.
    The d4svn seems to be of same size.....even if the numbers are identical, I still think itís a totally different light. Itís just feels much lighter and smaller because of the body.
    I agree. It's a little smoother, skinnier, and of course, has a tail switch. Still, I have a D4S Supercharged, so I'll be holding out for the single.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunkted View Post
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!
    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    It will come ;-)
    This is the version I was so curious about. Is something like this still in the works?

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    He posted the numbers on the sky lumen website I am disappointed was hoping for more throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mt62092 View Post
    He posted the numbers on the sky lumen website I am disappointed was hoping for more throw.
    We have 3 tiny OP reflector pushing 20Kcd each is actually an impressive feet IMO. There are single LED lights with much bigger reflector that doesn't push 60Kcd and Definitely not close to 9000L. I guess 100Kcd and 12,000L would be much nicer rounded numbers we can dream for but asking a single 40T to do that is not yet feasible.


    • FW21vn 50.2 6500K @2: 9350L, 33Kcd, 363m
    • FW21vn SST40 HD 5000K @2: 5550L, 43Kcd, 415m
    • FW21vn SST40 HD 6500K @2: 6000L, 48Kcd, 438m
    • FW21vn SBT90 De-Lens @2s: 8700L, 60Kcd, 490m
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    I guess the reason why people don't find 8700L, 60kcd very impressive is because the existence of the MT07vn: White 2 5400K Max Turn On Perf: 7700L, 115Kcd, 678m

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    9000 lumens and 60 kcd is not bad. I would have guessed 75 kcd. I still think if you can put a d4s reflector in there, that would be my fav option. 4x w2.1 for 4400 lumens and 100 kcd.
    Or when they come out with the single reflector, a single sbt 90 will do similar performance. I wonder which of the two would create less heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKV89 View Post
    I guess the reason why people don't find 8700L, 60kcd very impressive is because the existence of the MT07vn: White 2 5400K Max Turn On Perf: 7700L, 115Kcd, 678m
    I gave the other light that you mention much thought, but it is 41% heavier without battery than this light, without battery. The 26650 cell vs the 21700 cell weight will make the other light that much heavier than this light. But, on 47th thought, it would be nice to add to my collection.

    The more I compare specs of different lights, the more I think about needing a turn on, two second and 30 second lumen and throw spec converter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mt62092 View Post
    He posted the numbers on the sky lumen website I am disappointed was hoping for more throw.
    Originally Posted by Zunkted
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!

    Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54
    It will come ;-)


    mt62092, thank you and yes, I'm aware of the output of the triple SBT90 however, it seems I may have been the only person who was waiting for a single emitter, single reflector FW21vn, based on the comments that I've quoted, yet again with emphasis in red this time.

    With regards to the triple SBT90, the throw is actually slightly higher that what I would have expected. The fact that this light can hit 60Kcd with three, small, OP reflectors is a testament to the magic of this emitter. The lumen output is a little less than I expected but I can understand it based on a single cell's limited ability to deliver enough current to three SBT90's.

    I was expecting a FW21vn single emitter, single reflector putting out 4500L and somewhere north of 150Kcd, again based on the thread discussion. In any case, the triple is a great light but I was looking for a thrower that beat the other 39-40mm head lights.

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    Just restock. Have 3 ready for order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    Just restock. Have 3 ready for order.
    Will a d4s reflector be a option soon? I want a quad 2.1 4500 100+kcd fw21provn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b8llzblue View Post
    Will a d4s reflector be a option soon? I want a quad 2.1 4500 100+kcd fw21provn.

    If you like high output throw wait for the Sky Lumen exclusive KR1vn with SBT90 coming soon ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    If you like high output throw wait for the Sky Lumen exclusive KR1vn with SBT90 coming soon ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    If you like high output throw wait for the Sky Lumen exclusive KR1vn with SBT90 coming soon ;-)
    That will be smashing indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    If you like high output throw wait for the Sky Lumen exclusive KR1vn with SBT90 coming soon ;-)
    Thatís exciting. Looks like they didnít change the protruding clip issue. Iím kinda spectacle that the sbt90 will throw better than the d4svn. The reason so is because emisar has a Olson version on this kr1 and its only doing 100kcd. How is the d4s with tir reflector doin 115 kcd with w2? Itís same size head. I wonder which route will be cheaper as well? Plus I also like the fact that the pro21vn uses a 21700. If a pro21vn with a d4svn quad tir reflector with w2ís is cheaper or similar price, I think I would choose that route. I guess we just have to wait and see what the numbers are to this kr1vn90

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    Unless they do something bizarre with the reflector, this is why the kr1vn90 will out throw the D4Svn...

    D4Svn White2 5400K Supercharged 5000L, 118Kcd, 697m (39mm head)

    G25C2vn SBT90 G2 5700K 3500L 120Kcd, 693m (39.5mm head)
    G25C2vn SBT90 G2 5700K Delens 3700L 130Kcd, 721m (39.5mm head)

    Olight Pro Xvn90 DeLens 4100L 135Kcd, 735m (39mm head)

    L16vn90 4000L, 140Kcd, 748m (40mm head)
    L16vn90 DeLens 4200L 150Kcd or higher (estimated) (40mm head)

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    What changes were made to increase the output of the XHP50.2?
    Last edited by Th558; 06-26-2020 at 05:54 PM.

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    Fun times in the sun. :-)





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    A dead Rev Victor revived with W2.1 & VN4
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    I have a stock FW21 Pro (NOT Wayne's vn version). Does anyone know what the color temp is with the XHP50.2 emitters in this? 5000k? Or 6500k?


    The color temp is ok for me, but my only quibble with the XHP50.2 is the green corona around the hotspot is a little irksome, though it isn't terribly bothersome - generally only noticeable when white wall hunting. But I do appreciate minor improvements, when I can get them.




    Is there another emitter option, to mod this light with, to get rid of the green corona, but still retain reasonably high, cool white, lumen levels? Would XP-L emitters work well in place of the XHP50.2 emitters?




    I don't care if I can't hit 10,000 lumens on turbo. For the most part, I would use the light within the ramp range, only using turbo very briefly on occasion.
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