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    I am going to order three of these with factory emitters from your Skylumen website right now.


    Edit: Three (3) Lumintop FW21Vn Pro, 3 x XHP50.2 with V54 shipping insurance and Extended warranty, engraved, specs card:
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    3x SBT90.2 DeLens coming!!? Crazy

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    This light sells FAST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    This light sells FAST!
    I hope I got the first three!

    Vinh, do you have available 1.5 amp wall chargers? Three amp is too much for single 21700?
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    102 x 40mm and over 9000K lumens! That's just awesome! I would have guessed that Rich would have been first. It's exactly his style of light. I'll be eager to hear how it matches up the NSX1's and TM9K's. Congrats you guys!

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    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunkted View Post
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!

    That would be really neat as well! 40mm head with thin head walls... that would make for a large reflector!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunkted View Post
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!
    Me too. Just personal preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunkted View Post
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!
    It will come ;-)
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    Good to know haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKV89 View Post
    3x SBT90.2 DeLens coming!!? Crazy
    3x SBT90.2 DeLens, or will it be one single SBT90.2 in a single reflector?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    It will come ;-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    It will come ;-)
    What, that's awesome!!! If this is possible I don't think that there is anything this size "21700" with a single emitter single reflector beside the zerbra light sc700d correct? I had a sc700d and i sold it because it didn't have enought throw for me. A SBT90.2 with a single reflector would be awesome in the FW21 Pro!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zunkted View Post
    I would of picked up one of these if it a was single emitter smooth reflector!
    Quote Originally Posted by vinhnguyen54 View Post
    It will come ;-)

    Based on my experiences with the T27vn90, the 21700 and more specifically, the Samsung 40T cell, seem very well suited for the SBT90. I'm really impressed with the amount of intermittent light this combination provides, without a lot of voltage sag.

    I'm excited to see what kind of throw numbers we're talking about!

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    The SkyLumen site shows the pricing for the SBT90 version to be $220! Expensive but I'm guessing he's using a special reflector and custom, copper heat sink in order make it work in place of the triple design. I'm really interested in this one, if you couldn't tell!


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    Has vinh made one of these with a single sbt90 g2, single reflector? Im in the market for a 38-40mm sbt90g2 from vinh and am considering this, olight warrior x pro and acebeam L16vn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ike1985 View Post
    Has vinh made one of these with a single sbt90 g2, single reflector? Im in the market for a 38-40mm sbt90g2 from vinh and am considering this, olight warrior x pro and acebeam L16vn.
    If he has, he hasn't revealed it yet. Pricing for it is already on the SkyLumen website though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    The SkyLumen site shows the pricing for the SBT90 version to be $220! Expensive but I'm guessing he's using a special reflector and custom, copper heat sink in order make it work in place of the triple design. I'm really interested in this one, if you couldn't tell!
    I think you should buy one and let me play with it haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin1322 View Post
    I think you should buy one and let me play with it haha.


    Haha!! Yes, what a deal, huh! ...and by the way, I'd be happy to send any light to you, to check out.

    Well, I'm guessing Vinh will be posting pictures and specification fairly soon, if he already has pricing set!

    Edit: I'm just going to take an optimistic guess for fun...

    DeLens with 30T or 40T.... 4400L and 155Kcd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot View Post
    Haha!! Yes, what a deal, huh! ...and by the way, I'd be happy to send any light to you, to check out.

    Well, I'm guessing Vinh will be posting pictures and specification fairly soon, if he already has pricing set!

    Edit: I'm just going to take an optimistic guess for fun...

    DeLens with 30T or 40T.... 4400L and 155Kcd
    Awww, thanks man! I think you're dreaming with the throw though haha; head to small. I'll guess 4400L like you but 80kcd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin1322 View Post
    Awww, thanks man! I think you're dreaming with the throw though haha; head to small. I'll guess 4400L like you but 80kcd.


    Kevin, we're talking about a 40mm head with a single, reflectored SBT90, right? It should easily do better than 125Kcd even if the reflector isn't the best. This light has thin head walls making more room for a larger reflector than the tactical lights like the G25C2 or Warrior Pro X. Whatever the result, I think it will be competitive with other 39-40mm heads.


    MT07vn White 2 5400K Max Turn On Perf: 7700L, 115Kcd, 678m (44mm head)

    D4Svn White2 5400K Supercharged 5000L, 118Kcd, 697m (39mm head)

    G25C2vn SBT90 G2 5700K 3500L 120Kcd, 693m (39.5mm head)
    G25C2vn SBT90 G2 5700K Delens 3700L 130Kcd, 721m (39.5mm head)

    Olight Pro Xvn90 DeLens 4100L 135Kcd, 735m (39mm head)

    L16vn90 4000L, 140Kcd, 748m (40mm head)
    L16vn90 DeLens 4200L 150Kcd or higher (estimated) (40mm head)
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    I'm going to have to plead ignorance haha. I just looked at the picture in the hand haha. It just doesn't look that big, but numbers don't lie. I'm really curious to see comparison pictures now.
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    I bought a stock one and compared just on a white wall for now against a stock Fireflies E07.
    Much more floody beam of course, heats up slightly quicker than Fireflies both on Turbo.
    But it cools down quicker as well, both using a 30amp Vapcell.

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    I just got my three. Left to right: Nightwatch NSX53, FW21 Pro, FW3a, FW21 Pro, FW4a, FW21 Pro, Emisar, D4V2, Nitecore TM9K. All are Vinh54.

    FW21a Pro: From Off, double click takes you to top of ramp setting. Another double click Turbo.

    From On, double click to Turbo.
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    Wow. How does the FW21 Pro compare with the TM9K?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SKV89 View Post
    Wow. How does the FW21 Pro compare with the TM9K?
    Total lumens are almost the same.

    TM9K Vn, original 9 x XP-L, at 30 seconds: 9,120 lumens. 300 meters throw.
    FW21 Pro Vn, original triple XHP50.2, Skylumen site says 2 seconds: 9,350 lumens. 365 meters throw.

    Both are single 21700 cell.

    Both with fully charged cell at turn on, small white room ceiling bounce: Room brightness appears identical to my eyes.

    White wall hunting at 2 meters: TM9K is more floody. Tint: I did not notice any variation from usual CW.

    Compare with each other? The main difference between the two is build type and build feel. The former looks and feels very Lumintop FWy, and the latter feels very Nitecorey.

    Also big differences in user interface, even though both are rear switch. The TM9K has two rear controls: Clicky button and mode paddle.

    I like both of these lights a lot!

    Two of the FW21 Pro that I got today are gifts for two of my friends, I also got two SC1 chargers and cables and 1 amp wall adapters with the lights today, and I have two new 40T 21700 cells to go with the lights, too, along with the specs cards and the two year Skylumen extended warranty. And a comprehensive discourse on safety and brevity of upper modes.

    One of my friends does security and pest control, and my other friend does financial planning. Both are excited to get these lights as gifts from me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richbuff View Post
    Total lumens are almost the same.

    TM9K Vn, original 9 x XP-L, at 30 seconds: 9,120 lumens. 300 meters throw.
    FW21 Pro Vn, original triple XHP50.2, Skylumen site says 2 seconds: 9,350 lumens. 365 meters throw.

    Both are single 21700 cell.

    Both with fully charged cell at turn on, small white room ceiling bounce: Room brightness appears identical to my eyes.

    White wall hunting at 2 meters: TM9K is more floody. Tint: I did not notice any variation from usual CW.

    Compare with each other? The main difference between the two is build type and build feel. The former looks and feels very Lumintop FWy, and the latter feels very Nitecorey.

    Also big differences in user interface, even though both are rear switch. The TM9K has two rear controls: Clicky button and mode paddle.

    I like both of these lights a lot!

    Two of the FW21 Pro that I got today are gifts for two of my friends, I also got two SC1 chargers and cables and 1 amp wall adapters with the lights today, and I have two new 40T 21700 cells to go with the lights, too, along with the specs cards and the two year Skylumen extended warranty. And a comprehensive discourse on safety and brevity of upper modes.

    One of my friends does security and pest control, and my other friend does financial planning. Both are excited to get these lights as gifts from me.
    Your a good friend. I also enjoy giving lights as gifts.I must have gifted at least 40 or 50 lights over the past 15 years. Its the gift that keeps on giving as long as you change the batteries.

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    Same here I enjoy gifting lights too. Only problem is most people are not good with any UI more complicated than your typical Maglites and Energizers.

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    I agree it has to be simple ui and responsible person.

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