Acebeam        
Results 1 to 27 of 27

Thread: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

  1. #1
    Flashaholic R.W.D.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Posts
    247

    Default Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I'm on my 8th wizard specifically the xhp50 as has been for the last five of them. I'm starting to feel like armytek makes junk. Twice they had sent me replacements one of which hardly worked if you would even say it did at all by only turning on in firefly mode and the second just didn't work right out of the box both of which mind everyone were replacements for one that fried out of the box and almost caused a brand new 18650 to go thermonuclear...

    I can't be the only person who has had as many problems as I've had with the wizard line right? I have a C2 partner they gave to me in what felt like a bribe about their lights failure points and I've beaten the hell out of it yet it works flawlessly. I even put two trits into the TIR lens by using a file so I could find it in the dark.

    If anyone has had similar problems with the Armytek Wizard models please make it known here because I'm extremely curious at how often and in what ways others have failed. Mine always seem to be electronic failures including the recent one where it just decided to totally stop working, not even the switch will light when pressed.
    R.W.D.

  2. #2
    *Flashaholic* thermal guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    ny
    Posts
    6,535

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Wait you bought another one after 7 spit the bit?
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

  3. #3
    Flashaholic*
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    3,609

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I'm pretty sure I would have given up after the 6th.

  4. #4
    Flashaholic R.W.D.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Posts
    247

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Two were stolen, one broke physically, two were replacements that were junk out of the box, one recently just stopped working, and the rest were not XHP-50 wizards and they got lost or crushed except one that fell off a tower and broke into a ton of pieces. I'm on number 8 and I feel like I can't trust that it will work when I need it.
    R.W.D.

  5. #5

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Get a Zebralight or a Surefire and donít look back.

    Or find a way to get a Malkoff or HDS to function as headlamps.
    Last edited by motigg; 05-28-2020 at 02:21 PM.

  6. #6
    Flashaholic* Slumber Pass's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    The Alamo City
    Posts
    1,629

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    The two that failed out the box and the one that recently stopped working are of concern. I think the lost, crushed and fell of the tower lights are user error and wouldn't necessarily place fault on AT.

  7. #7
    *Flashaholic* thermal guy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    ny
    Posts
    6,535

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    ď I'm on number 8 and I feel like I can't trust that it will work when I need it.Ē


    I think thatís the understatement of the year😁
    If i had one day left to live i would want to be at my workplace.Because every day is like a frickin eternity.

  8. #8

    Join Date
    Dec 2018
    Location
    Assachusetts
    Posts
    956

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I used to be a MASSIVE Armytek fan. They were my be-all-end all. Ended up with close to two-dozen at one point. Gradually, after about a year, I was down to around 12. Over half of my Prime/ Wizard series lights died with little to no use, let alone abuse. (ironically, the one Wizard I have BEAT up, still works), but I've had about 8 failures in total. 4 Wizards over 3 generations, and 4 Primes (C2 XHP, C2 XP-L, C1 XM-L2, and one of the A2 primes.) A few of these failed with less than a minute of runtime on them. Most of the failures were different in nature, but not all.

    I do not trust Armytek. Furthermore, their Customer service is at best, spotty and they are well known for stealing and appropriating well respected flashaholic's content to use for advertising, cropping out or editing out watermarks.


    TL;DR F Armytek, if you want a real Canadian light, check out Focus Works EDC! (Pretty sure they are leaf-based)
    Last edited by archimedes; 05-29-2020 at 10:16 AM. Reason: vulgar language removed
    Proud owner, SkyLumen Nguyen #011

    List of my lights!

  9. #9
    Flashaholic* Stefano's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    800

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    So far my experience with AT has been good.
    Years ago I kept away from it because I read many stories of failures especially on Pro versions.
    Then I bought a Wizard XP-L (basic version) as a secondary headlamp to lend (guest flashlight) I liked a lot and I also made a strong use of it.
    Then came the new version (Wizard XP-L Magnet) even more powerful than the previous one, I bought many (as gifts) the one I kept for me has become the most used light by far surpassing the use made of my Zebralight.
    It has also fallen several times without any consequences and has been used for a long time in all seasons almost always at Turbo level.
    I bought many ELF C2 for some friends, these too have been used (also for work) and so far none has failed.

    In 2017 or 2018 I decided to try the Wizard Pro XHP50 but I received a disappointing headlamp that I returned immediately, it worked perfectly but compared to the Wizard "basic" version it had ridiculous performance.

    I bought Wizard Pro again in 2019 hoping to have more luck and this time everything is fine, it has excellent performance, I don't know if the first sample was a lemon or if in the meantime the led has become XHP.50.2 (or both) the new one Wizard Pro is very powerful and works well but has not been used so far
    enough to make a judgment on durability and reliability.

    I also bought the Viking and the Predator, beautiful lights but I have not yet made intense use of them to talk about reliability.
    The Predator arrived with the ruined thread (the tube) I tried to have it replaced but it was not possible, I should have sent it back, I decided to keep it because it works very well and the tint is perfect, I just have to be careful when I screw the cap.
    Some time ago talking to my seller he told me that I was lucky because over the years he had to make many replacements under warranty, when I asked for details he had to admit that they were almost always about Pro versions. (the talk was about the Wizard)
    Maybe the motto of the Paris Dakar mechanics "what is not there can not be broken" can also be good for the lights?
    Last edited by Stefano; 05-28-2020 at 04:07 PM. Reason: translation improvement

  10. #10

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    That's the consequence of Chinese quality vs USA or Europe built lights.

  11. #11
    Flashaholic* neutralwhite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Monaco.
    Posts
    2,790

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    so would an AT light ( viking Pro ) modded by Clemence Virence suffer the same fate ?
    I know he also modded a lot of wizards. I wonder how they are holding up.
    Malkoff M61T, Jetbeam E21A 5700k 9080 AAA.

  12. #12

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Wow.

    Original Poster is talking about how his lights fall off towers and get stolen in addition to being duds out of the box.

    Sounds like a better option might be to go for a light marketed for toughness (like an HDS).

    Or maybe go something cheap so it's not a big loss if it falls off a tower, gets run over by a tank, hit by an airplane, etc.

    Maybe a Rayovac Indestructible. It's a decidedly budget light and not very high quality. But it's designed to be durable and if it does get lost or damaged, it's really cheap.

  13. #13

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Go for lucky 11 bro. 2020 is your year.

  14. #14
    Flashaholic* F250XLT's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    I can see the Windmills...
    Posts
    2,359

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    ď I'm on number 8 and I feel like I can't trust that it will work when I need it.Ē


    I think thatís the understatement of the year
    "I am not a Collector" - Tim

  15. #15
    Flashaholic* Lou Minescence's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    New England US
    Posts
    1,091

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I had a Wizard with the XHP50 cool white and after a couple of weeks I noticed the lense was cracked. I had no idea how it happened. I had the Vendor send it back to Armytek and after 8 months they still had no word from Armytek and sent me another new light. A few months later I went to use the new Wizard and the battery was completely dead. I put another battery in and figured I must have left it on and the low voltage protection didn't work. A few minutes after putting the new battery in my Wizard I looked at it and saw some smoke. I quickly took the battery out and the circuit board was burnt. That light could have caused a fire. I was not impressed. The cracked lense was something that was happening to other people too for no reason. I have a lot of Armytek lights and other Wizards with no problems. After seeing smoke I manually lock out all my lights when not in use. I would be very upset if a flashlight burned down my house. Good to see this thread is not in the Armytek section, it may last a while.
    Kata Ton Δaimona Eaytoy

  16. #16
    *Flashaholic* ChrisGarrett's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Miami, Florida
    Posts
    5,493

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by R.W.D. View Post
    Two were stolen, one broke physically, two were replacements that were junk out of the box, one recently just stopped working, and the rest were not XHP-50 wizards and they got lost or crushed except one that fell off a tower and broke into a ton of pieces. I'm on number 8 and I feel like I can't trust that it will work when I need it.
    You should probably take up bowling as a hobby.

    Chris
    Convoy: S2, S2+, M1, M2, Fenix: P1D, PD32, HL30, ET: D25C Ti, SF: 6P, ZL: SC-600, Klarus: P2A, Jetbeam: BA-20, Icon: Rogue 1, L3: L10, Xeno: E03, ShiningBeam: I-Mini, Olight: i3s, SWM: D40A, M11R, V11R, Maglite: 6Ds, MMs, Solitaires, LaCrosse BC-700, Maha C-9000, XTAR VP2, MP1S, XP1, MC1+, WP2 II, NiteCore i4, v2.

  17. #17
    Flashaholic R.W.D.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Posts
    247

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    They will absolutely take your photos off IG and use them for advertising also I've learned....
    R.W.D.

  18. #18
    Flashaholic R.W.D.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Posts
    247

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Hds is ultimately what I'm after but an outright purchase of almost $400 to get exactly what I want is just going to have to hold off.

    The reason I even continued to buy the AT Wizard what is being so compact, output for the size, the very warm tint, and it being at a 90 degree light which I've gotten so use to I feel weird using anything else. I wish there was a better company to make something almost exactly like the wizard (Olight is out for me) but I can't seem to find anything close enough.

    I've been using old incan Mags lately because I can't beat the warm light, if I drop it worst case I have to swap a bulb, and I even took the AR lens from the corpse of a Wizard to throw into my pocket mag. Only problem is poor output 🤣
    R.W.D.

  19. #19
    Flashaholic R.W.D.'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Jacksonville FL
    Posts
    247

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Out of curiosity anyone here handled a skill hunt and wizard? I'd be sacrifing lumens but I could live with it.
    R.W.D.

  20. #20

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by Fish 14 View Post
    That's the consequence of Chinese quality vs USA or Europe built lights.
    I agree, reliability in USA lights is unrivaled. The only non American brand I buy is Olight, I have never had one fail me in probably 7 or 8 years of using them, but they are not or par with Surefire, Malkoff, or Elzetta.

  21. #21
    Flashaholic*
    Join Date
    Jul 2014
    Location
    Nomad
    Posts
    618

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    After years here on CPF I have heard enough negatives about ATek that I would never buy one

  22. #22
    Flashaholic* neutralwhite's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Monaco.
    Posts
    2,790

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I guess if you had an AT Modded you'd be better off than what they build.
    ie; Clemence.

    now HDS needs to make a headlamp.
    Malkoff M61T, Jetbeam E21A 5700k 9080 AAA.

  23. #23

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    I have two of them from Illum's bargin bin... I think about $20 or $25 each but never used em because I hate the spongy rubbery switch. You have to jab your fingernail into it to get it to click, and as far as a fast double click, forget it. I throw one in my car just for emergency and if it gets stolen, no big loss.
    Tint, schmint! as long as the thing lights up, I'm happy!

  24. #24
    Flashaholic*
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    3,609

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Tweedbucket View Post
    I have two of them from Illum's bargin bin... I think about $20 or $25 each but never used em because I hate the spongy rubbery switch. You have to jab your fingernail into it to get it to click, and as far as a fast double click, forget it. I throw one in my car just for emergency and if it gets stolen, no big loss.
    Yeah, I agree with that. Hardest switches to press of all my lights. I don't feel quite as bad as you do about them, but I agree they could use switches that are easier to activate. I suppose one upside is you don't have to worry about the light turning on accidentally, in a bag.

  25. #25
    Flashaholic* Stefano's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Italy
    Posts
    800

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefano View Post
    I bought Wizard Pro again in 2019 hoping to have more luck and this time everything is fine, it has excellent performance, I don't know if the first sample was a lemon or if in the meantime the led has become XHP.50.2 (or both) the new one Wizard Pro is very powerful and works well but has not been used so far
    enough to make a judgment on durability and reliability.
    Maybe I shouldn't have talked ..
    Some time ago I saw that my Wizard Pro was not working on Turbo 2 and extracted the battery I measured 3.20V I did not remember having used the Headlamp.
    I have now verified that the Wizard Pro has a strong parasitic discharge :-(
    I had the suspicion but not the certainty, then I did an only 8-day test and the battery (Samsung 30Q) dropped from 4.20V to 3.93V
    Now I will do the test with the original battery but I fear that the problem remains.
    I am also in doubt as to whether to return it under warranty for fear that the replacement one may have other problems.

  26. #26

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by motigg View Post
    Get a Zebralight or a Surefire and donít look back.

    Or find a way to get a Malkoff or HDS to function as headlamps.
    Had a Armytek predator pro... xpg2 neutral and i screwed the head on too tight and it stopped working. Ive has 2 zebralights Sc52 that quit on me as well. Iíve bought a ace beam L16 and after a waist height drop from my pocket to concrete that 1 took a s$@T too and died.

    the only light Iíve had that has thus SO FAR been bullet proof from dieing, switch modes tweaking out etc etc is the FENIX PD36R Iíve had for 1 yr now. Itís been dropped multiple times on concrete (probably 8x) still works. A first. Time will tell...

  27. #27

    Default Re: Another one bites the dust... 7th armytek wizard crapped out

    Quote Originally Posted by motigg View Post
    Get a Zebralight or a Surefire and donít look ba
    Or find a way to get a Malkoff or HDS to function as headlamps.
    yes, yes, and yes

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •