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    What is the most powerful commercially available portable HID spotlight?

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    I don't have any idea, but the Lemax LX70 Superpower surely has to be near the top.

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    Why is xeray is expensive?

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    You may want to consider Polarion PH50D. It does not go to 70W but it is half the weight and more ergonomic. Few companies make hand-held HID searchlights. Market has gone LED. That said, HID is far superior for long range illumination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smood View Post
    Why is xeray is expensive?
    Because it is superior, with a military grade ballast that meets higher thermal management and EMI and RFI standards. (it doesn't get hot)
    We also offer high wattage rated bulbs and warranty / service (repairs) are handled in the USA (cheap shipping within USA)
    We also made the ULTRA limited edition 40/85 dual wattage version. An upgraded LX70 or Superpower.
    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...od-SIGN-UP-NOW

    Weight of XV-LX70 is 4.85 lbs (2200 grams) only including the handle. Not remotely close to "heavy" compared to others, check the numbers.
    Well balanced in the hand and very ergonomic, with 20 watts more output. The Polarion PH50D weight is about 4 lbs. (1810 grams), hardly 1/2 the weight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XeRay View Post
    Because it is superior, with a military grade ballast that meets higher EMI and RFI standards.
    We also offer wattage rated bulbs and warranty / service (repairs) are handled in the USA (cheap shipping within USA)
    We also made the ULTRA limited edition 40/85 dual wattage version. An upgraded LX70 or Superpower.
    https://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb...od-SIGN-UP-NOW

    Weight of XV-LX70 is 4.85 lbs (2200 grams) only including the handle. Not remotely close to "heavy" compared to others, check the numbers.
    Well balanced in the hand and very ergonomic, with 20 watts more output. The Polarion PH50D weight is about 4 lbs. (1810 grams), hardly 1/2 the weight.
    Any thoughts on making a larger (like thor cyclops size) and even more powerful hid light? Do you do custom builds?

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    Yeah......Where's that 250 Watt mentioned a number of years back???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smood View Post
    Any thoughts on making a larger (like thor cyclops size) and even more powerful hid light? Do you do custom builds?

    We build custom ballasts of different outputs, input voltages, sizes and shapes for our OEM customers.
    We must look at market size and demand to be sure we make a product that will pay for its development costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BVH View Post
    Yeah......Where's that 250 Watt mentioned a number of years back???

    As you know we made a 1 off ballast and sourced a bulb. The warm up of the VERY HIGH output bulb took too long to warm up to its high output for any practical applications for any of our target markets.
    The alternative bulbs didn't have the output we were looking for of about 25,000 to 30,000 lumens.

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    Probably a Mercury Xenon lamp? They are very bright for the power level vs Xenon. Xenon in the 35-40 Lumens per watt and I think 110 to 115 Lumens per watt for MX. Downside is the warmup time as you say. My 300 Watt Locator Short Arc lights off in a beautiful Violet hue then takes a good 30 seconds to be bright and another 15 to reach max. Do you have that prototype ballast and bulb? I'd buy it off you if you'd part with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BVH View Post
    Probably a Mercury Xenon lamp? They are very bright for the power level vs Xenon. Xenon in the 35-40 Lumens per watt and I think 110 to 115 Lumens per watt for MX. Downside is the warmup time as you say. My 300 Watt Locator Short Arc lights off in a beautiful Violet hue then takes a good 30 seconds to be bright and another 15 to reach max. Do you have that prototype ballast and bulb? I'd buy it off you if you'd part with it.
    I'd have to discuss with my engineer.
    It took at least 45 seconds if not even 1 minute to reach full brightness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XeRay View Post
    I'd have to discuss with my engineer.
    It took at least 45 seconds if not even 1 minute to reach full brightness.
    Wouldn't matter to me. In line with the Locator warm up time.
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    Strictly for completeness - all Polarion lights ship from the USA and are serviced in Connecticut. In terms of weight, we do stand corrected. The PH50D is marginally lighter at 1.8 kg.

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    What are the typical ranges for the LV70 and PH50D lights ?

    EDIT: So ph50D is 1.5 km according to the website. What about the LV70?

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    As you noted, the Polarion PH50D range is basically 1 mile. That said, actual results will depend on atmospheric conditions (particles in air, rain, dust, etc). I always remind people that 1 mile is a long way away. Any light effectiveness at that kind of distance will depend on the size of the object being lit. To give a simple example: on the water, I can illuminate a ship a mile away. The object will be easily resolved by my eyes, without magnification. If I illuminate a phone case at the same distance, my eyes will not be able to resolve without using binoculars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smood View Post
    What are the typical ranges for the XV-LX70 and PH50D lights ?
    EDIT: So ph50D is 1.5 km according to the website. What about the XV-LX70?
    At 70W should run about 1.4 Miles (well over 2 km ), at 50W about 1.1-1.2 Miles (about 1.8 km) Our Electro-formed reflector is larger and well optimized.

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