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    Default Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

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    So what happens when you put a W2.1 into this unique reflector? I thought the narrow beam width was forced due to the large optic, so wouldn’t cramping more lumens into the same width beam create more intensity / throw distance? I was surprised to see your W2.1 modded versión only increases lumens, but not intensity/throw.

    Does the 2.1 in fact make a wider beam width?

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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen View Post
    So what happens when you put a W2.1 into this unique reflector? I thought the narrow beam width was forced due to the large optic, so wouldn’t cramping more lumens into the same width beam create more intensity / throw distance? I was surprised to see your W2.1 modded versión only increases lumens, but not intensity/throw.

    Does the 2.1 in fact make a wider beam width?
    just like a conventional reflector the bigger the led the bigger the hotspot. I have a stock E10 and a E10vn with W2.1 that does double the lumen. The E10vn has a hotspot twice the size double the lumen but the same intensity
    Flashlights: R90TS, Maxtoch Xsword L2K LEP, K75vn, Fire Fox FF-5 3400k, Fire Fox FF-5 6000K, Wowtac A4, K1VN90, Weben L60, Fenix LD42, W10VN, BLF 18650 flashlight, UVBEAST V3, LM10VN90, Brandless LEP, F21VN, E10VN VNX2 W2.1, Nitcore TIP SE


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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    Quote Originally Posted by Alex1234 View Post
    just like a conventional reflector the bigger the led the bigger the hotspot. I have a stock E10 and a E10vn with W2.1 that does double the lumen. The E10vn has a hotspot twice the size double the lumen but the same intensity
    Thank you, but that still doesn't explain Vinh's measurement numbers when comparing the two lights and LEDs...


    • Spec 1 E10vn W1 6500K @2s = 560L, 160Kcd, 800m
    • Spec 2 E10vn W2 5400K @2s= 730L, 120Kcd, 692m



    Notice the specs from the Skylumen website above, the different LED W1 vs W2 results in different amounts of intensity and throw.

    But if you compare the Manker MC13 specs:


    • Spec 1 Stock MC13 W1.1 6500K @2s: 600L, 160Kcd, 800m
    • Spec 3 MC13vn VNX2 W2.1 5400K @2s: 1100L, 160kcd, 800m



    Different LED here produces the same throw / intensity, unlike the E10 mentioned previously.

    It would stand to reason that by switching from W1 to W2 (without Vinh's boost) in the MC13, that there would be a similar loss of intensity and throw, and add ~200-300 lumens. However due to Vinh's boosting the driver... he gets more than 200-300 lumens, nearly double, and therefore the throw and intensity of the W2 does in fact increase to equal the W1.

    I believe it is by coincidence that there is no change in throw/intensity, due to the boost, but without the boost, the LED swap would = less intensity / throw.


    You are comparing stock E10 W1 to Boosted E10vn W2.1. We need to compare boosted vs boosted, or stock vs stock. Otherwise the equal intensity/throw is possibly due to the boost on the less throwy W2 pushing it into the W1 intensity / throw equivalent.

    Vinh, can you shed some light on this please? Would a MC13vn W1.1 with VNX2 driver boost push 200kcd and 850m throw?
    Last edited by OnlyownEnergizer250lumen; 08-06-2020 at 11:31 PM.

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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    this optic is new so i think we are all trying understand what i can do. I think about 730 lumens is about all he can get out of the W1.1. I dont think the driver vnx2 will get anymore especially since the W2.1 is getting a 1000 lumens. The 1.1 will obviously be less then that
    Flashlights: R90TS, Maxtoch Xsword L2K LEP, K75vn, Fire Fox FF-5 3400k, Fire Fox FF-5 6000K, Wowtac A4, K1VN90, Weben L60, Fenix LD42, W10VN, BLF 18650 flashlight, UVBEAST V3, LM10VN90, Brandless LEP, F21VN, E10VN VNX2 W2.1, Nitcore TIP SE


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    As soon as I get caught up I will talk more about these lights in a video. I like them enough to want to make a video on these!
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    I have not done a video in a long time but I got so much to say...Its a LONG ass video so you have been warned. :-)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtJoyQkDF2I&feature=youtu.be
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    MC13 is very handsome indeed. Just don't like that big branding on its head. Cerakote would clear that up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twistedraven View Post
    MC13 is very handsome indeed. Just don't like that big branding on its head. Cerakote would clear that up though.
    I kinda want one in Camo cerakote with trits but man you gotta pay if you want to play...
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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    All MC13vn ordered are fulfilled and shipped. MC13vn order after this post will have a 1-1.5 weeks wait time.

    Couple of E14vn III left :-)
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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    Ahh, waited too long. I have been sitting here trying to figure out what LEDs to go with for the E14vn. I think I'm just going to go with the Nichia 219b in a 4500k variety. I have been looking for a good color rendering LED for my EDC light. I have the LH351D in both the 4000k (90+ CRI) and 5000k (80+ CRI) variety in a copper and separate titanium Sinner Custom builds I did. I like the LEDs, but still searching for the CRI sweet spot.

    The MC13vn seems good with the W2.

    Haha, looks like I waited a little extra too long as the price went up a bit too. I better stop typing and start ordering.
    Last edited by stewdogg; 08-11-2020 at 10:04 PM.

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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    E14vn price went up as it now also has a power boost. Before it didn't.
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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    L16 VS E10vn VS MC13vn VS E14vn Night Beam Shot


    https://youtu.be/5xl8CJ3Vp74
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    Default Re: Manker E14vn III & MC13vn = Flooder Thrower Dream Pair R

    MC13vn is also excellent with other neutral tint LEDs.

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