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    Default NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    Wow! It seems Philips is going to come out with two new tier of halogen bulbs, the Xtremevision Pro150 (+150) and the Racingvision GT200 (a +200 bulb!)

    What do you guys think of this? Pretty cool IMO, it's been some time since Philips has come out with something with more power. They did have that G-Force bulb which resists vibrations and shocks which is cool. They managed to keep the 150+ bulb around 450 hours compared to the previous Racingvision +150 bulb's ~200 hour lifespan. The innovation continues...


    Xtremevision PRO150: https://www.philips.ie/c-e/au/car-li...on-pro150.html

    RacingVision GT200: https://www.philips.ae/c-e/au/car-li...ion-gt200.html

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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    Quote Originally Posted by FartMaster3000 View Post
    Wow! It seems Philips is going to come out with two new tier of halogen bulbs, the Xtremevision Pro150 (+150) and the Racingvision GT200 (a +200 bulb!)
    +200 compared to legal minimum standard, which may be a change from if they'd claimed +X compared to the nominal standard.

    The usual warning of reduced bulb life applies.

    The video touts the filament precision and the better resulting beam focus. This is probably the greatest contributing factor to the the bulb's performance.

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    Pretty much the same as all previous steps on this staircase: a little more and better light than the previous step (minus losses due to the blue coating) and a little shorter life/durability.

    To me, the most interesting bulb of all in these new Philips lines is HIR2+150. Too bad no apparent availability of it, or I'd buy and try some. Doesn't look like there's a corresponding HIR1, a shame.
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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    So, how much can we expect the high beam filament to be negatively effected by the blue banding, in comparison to say a xtremevision +100 with no blue banding over the highbeam filament?

    Also, other than the obvious push by the marketing departments to push bluer=better, why is blue the go-to filtering color for most bulbs? Why not yellow?
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    I don't have data for this specific bulb, but I do have data for the Sylvania ZxE 9003, which is their street-legal bulb with the darkest blue coating.

    The following figures are (high beam lumens/low beam lumens):

    WITH the blue coating, and operated at 12.8 volts, that bulb produces 1380/860 (minimum legal output is 1350/819)

    WITHOUT the blue coating, that same bulb operated at the same 12.8 volts produces 2000/1340

    That means the blue coating reduces intensity by about 33% on high beam, about 36% on low beam. Yuck!

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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    Quote Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post
    Also, other than the obvious push by the marketing departments to push bluer=better, why is blue the go-to filtering color for most bulbs? Why not yellow?
    It's possible the off-axis yellow light may reduce the visibility of front turn signals to some degree. It may also be related to the materials needed to make a durable yellow coating (not that we haven't seen all kinds of yellow headlamp bulbs out there).

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    Hadn't conaidered the turn signal angle.
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post
    Also, other than the obvious push by the marketing departments to push bluer=better, why is blue the go-to filtering color for most bulbs?
    Fashion fad, pure and simple. There's no other real reason for it (just a bunch of made-up cockamammy baloney about "whiter light" and "closer to natural sunlight" and all the rest of the nonsense claims).

    Why not yellow?
    Technically there's no reason why not yellow. There are yellow-coated bulbs on the market, like these (a type applicable only to fog lamps) and these (a type also applicable to headlamps, so has to have "plausible deniability" about white/yellow) and these (no "plausible deniability" from this brand, and LOL @ "2500K" claim).

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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    Those last ones are terrible. I regrettably installed them in my wife's 911. At first they are fairly yellow and then they turn almost amber in color. She never uses them anyway.

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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    A user on tacomaworld is reporting that they were able to order a set of these new Philips pro +150 h11 from powerbulbs and got a shipping confirmation.
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post
    A user on tacomaworld is reporting that they were able to order a set of these new Philips pro +150 h11 from powerbulbs and got a shipping confirmation.
    They are showing in stock for the H4 versions of Pro150 and GT200

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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    On tacomaworld, thread author Craahnburn80 has posted some testing of the Pro +150 H11.

    https://www.tacomaworld.com/threads/...#post-24327146

    It looks like it does not perform as well as the GE/Tungsram Megalight +130, but it is an improvement over standard H11, and it does claim a much linger lifespan than the GE/Tungsram bulb, which should be a benefit for people whose lamps are hard to access.
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_Galt View Post
    It looks like it does not perform as well as the GE/Tungsram Megalight +130, but it is an improvement over standard H11, and it does claim a much linger lifespan than the GE/Tungsram bulb, which should be a benefit for people whose lamps are hard to access.
    Tungsram claims a Tc of 250 hours, not 150, but that's still significantly less than 400 and I can understand why some would prefer the Philips because of that.

    Some of the posters on that thread are concerned about the deepness of the tinted bands, but for single filament bulbs it has no effect on the light output that ends up on the road. Unfortunately, with H4 bulbs the band ends up around the high beam filament and that reduces its output. Depending on how much you use your high beams, it might not be a good tradeoff.

    It would be interesting to see a comparison of these different evolutions of H4 bulbs, comparing both low beam and high beam outputs. Let's say Philips XV100 vs. XV130 vs. XVP150 vs. RVGT200. How much high beam performance are we actually giving up, and how much low beam performance are we getting?
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    Default Re: NEW Philips XtremeVison Pro150 (+150) and Philips RacingVision GT200 (+200)

    I agree with your point about the blue banding on h4 bulbs. I already have auxiliary highbeams, so the effect is less significant for me, regarding highbeam performance loss, but it would still be interesting to see low and high beam performance across the range, back to back.
    I love my HDS/Ra Clicky... My only wish would be a 5th(accessible thru a 2click press) mode, and a 2AA tube.

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