Malkoff Lego Incan?

[gurdygurds]

Will an eneloop even light up one of those bulbs? If so about how many lumens you think it's putting out?

[Greenbean]

I might put something like this together on two Eneloops, I’ve got an extra Malkoff 2xAA body.

[nmiller]

gurdy: I'm not sure if it will light up. I don't have a 1xaa body to try it with. Running 3.7 volts on the 6volt P60 yields about 1/2 the output. At least to my eye. Perhaps the AA will light it up with about half the output. I'd expect it to be warmer in tint too.

Greenbean: That would be a nice setup. Especially if you have the parts laying around.

[Olumin]

Yes, Smoothie E series head in black with the 3V HO-E1A lamp like miller mentioned. I also ordered the 3,6V lamp, but the difference in brightness is not noticeable and you get better runtime with the 3V on a CR123. I am also using the slightly shorter Z52 switch boot from LM with the MDC, which improves the momentary action IMO. There is a lot of air between the boot and switch with the stock boot on the MDC, and that was gripe of mine since I first got it. The difference is not huge but certainly noticeable.

[sgt253]

I just lego'ed the Lumens Factory 3v bulb (in a E1E head) onto a 1xAA Maxlite Extreme body powered by 1 AA lithium Energizer. I can tell you that the bulb lit and was half as bright as it is in the Surefire E1E (3V). I then tried an Eneloop that measured 1.38v (resting) in the Maxlite with the Lumens Factory bulb. It was ~ 1/4 as bright as the 3v bulb when powered by a 3v source. l also placed that same head configuration on a Surefire E2L AA Outdoorsman body powered by 2xAA lithium Energizers. It lit and was as bright and very white as the 3v source. I tried 2 Eneloops (1.37 and 1.38v resting) and the Lumens Factory bulb lit and was just as bright and white as the 2xAA lithiums and the 3v battery. I hope this helps.

[ma tumba]

Not 100% in line with the topic, but I like using the LF e-series bezel sans the reflector. It gives a great mule option for incand bulbs

[gurdygurds]

Yes very helpful thank you! So on an eneloop you would guess it’s around 10 lumens or so. Sounds like it’d be a great little around the house light.

I just lego'ed the Lumens Factory 3v bulb (in a E1E head) onto a 1xAA Maxlite Extreme body powered by 1 AA lithium Energizer. I can tell you that the bulb lit and was half as bright as it is in the Surefire E1E (3V). I then tried an Eneloop that measured 1.38v (resting) in the Maxlite with the Lumens Factory bulb. It was ~ 1/4 as bright as the 3v bulb when powered by a 3v source. l also placed that same head configuration on a Surefire E2L AA Outdoorsman body powered by 2xAA lithium Energizers. It lit and was as bright and very white as the 3v source. I tried 2 Eneloops (1.37 and 1.38v resting) and the Lumens Factory bulb lit and was just as bright and white as the 2xAA lithiums and the 3v battery. I hope this helps.

[sgt253]

@gurdygurds: My pleasure. Yes, I think ~ 8-10 lumens would be an accurate assessment. Of course, I am just guessing without actual equipment to measure.

[gurdygurds]

Do you know if these will just start to dim as an Eneloop is drained or will the light just cut off? Also I'm guessing that an M31 module won't fit into one of those E series Elite heads.

@gurdygurds: My pleasure. Yes, I think ~ 8-10 lumens would be an accurate assessment. Of course, I am just guessing without actual equipment to measure.

[sgt253]

I will try and perform a test of that to reveal the result for you. Guessing , based on my previous experience in other applications, would be that the Eneloop would just cut off. No, the M31 module wont fit into the Elite heads but I can attest that it will fit the Malkoff VME Valiant Concepts Head. I run that setup in a twisty 2xAA Valiant Concepts body or the Maxlight Extreme 1xAA body previously mentioned. Nice and compact and ~ 115lumens.

[ma tumba]

I will try and perform a test of that to reveal the result for you. Guessing , based on my previous experience in other applications, would be that the Eneloop would just cut off. No, the M31 module wont fit into the Elite heads but I can attest that it will fit the Malkoff VME Valiant Concepts Head. I run that setup in a twisty 2xAA Valiant Concepts body or the Maxlight Extreme 1xAA body previously mentioned. Nice and compact and ~ 115lumens.

I wonder if the m31 would fit the new c2e head from lumens factory

[novice]

Also I'm guessing that an M31 module won't fit into one of those E series Elite heads.

gurdygurds, the VME (valiant concepts) 2-piece bezel will fit take an M31 module, and will fit onto a Surefire legacy design E2E executive elite bodies. Malkoff sells them.

Edit: By the time that I finally posted this, sgt253 had already beat me to the punch.

[gurdygurds]

Thank you gentlemen. I'm familiar with the VME but not the e series elite heads.

[Greenbean]

I just received my M31W and put in a VME , keep in mind you’ll need a lens kit from Malkoff also, it’s the lens, o-ring and forward gasket.

If your using an M60 or M60F you don’t need a lens kit a the lens is sealed itself.

Looks great and is running 2xEneloops.

Shown with my old trusty single AA for size comparison.

[Grijon]

What an incredible thread, you guys are awesome!

The VME head will run 26mm incan modules in addition to Malkoff LED dropins?

[Greenbean]

I don’t think so but when I get home I can try a 3.7V incan module for a 6P and see,

[thermal guy]

A P60 won’t fit inside a VME head. Tried that before.

[Grijon]

I don’t think so but when I get home I can try a 3.7V incan module for a 6P and see,

A P60 won’t fit inside a VME head. Tried that before.

Thanks, guys! I just thought that if an M31 fit, maybe an incan dropin would, too.

[ma tumba]

A P60 won’t fit inside a VME head. Tried that before.

How far is it? Would a touch of dremel be enough to trim a lumens factory drop-in?

[1313]

The front opening is pretty small on the VME so even if you dremeled the drop in it would block a lot of light output. Might be able to fix the opening as well but then youd need a new lens. A lot of trouble and I might suggest the lumens factory e series p60 adapter instead which is also pretty sleek.

[thermal guy]

How far is it? Would a touch of dremel be enough to trim a lumens factory drop-in?

A sf P60 is dam close to going in. .010-.015 to big. Not much at all

[thermal guy]

Well got to wondering so I tried a lumens factory 3.7 volt 190 lumens eo-4 in my vme head. It fits and works just fine😁

[Grijon]

Well got to wondering so I tried a lumens factory 3.7 volt 190 lumens eo-4 in my vme head. It fits and works just fine

S-weet!

Thank you!

[Greenbean]

Well got to wondering so I tried a lumens factory 3.7 volt 190 lumens eo-4 in my vme head. It fits and works just fine😁

Pics or it didn't happen!

Lol...

[thermal guy]

I’ll throw up a couple after work.

[1313]

Damn , how? Doesnt the small opening block a bunch of light or am I missing something.

[Greenbean]

Damn , how? Doesnt the small opening block a bunch of light or am I missing something.

Good question, I'll look at the head opening on both...

I just like the idea of a 2xAA Incan for general home use. (That's not the mini`ma$)

[thermal guy]

Beam shot is 20 ish feet. There’s more spill in real life then in the picture. Compared to a standard p60 in my G2 there really isn’t much if any different.

[nmiller]

Nice. I like it!

[Greenbean]

I like that too! A specially for a 2xAA for nice warm incan goodness.

Guess it’s time to send LF some $$,
Thanks! Lol...

By chance has anyone seen the two offerings in the 3V Incan modules from LF,

anyone recommend the HO-4 (150 lumens) vs the EO-4 (190 lumens)

I guess if one is comparable to a Surefire P60 that’s probably what I want. Although is the difference that discernible? Maybe it’s a runtime thing more or less. 40min vs 65min

As I’m typing this out I realize that I have three or four of the generic 3.7V P60 bulbs in my office at home, I need to try to put one of those in my VME tonight.