Streamlight TL3 is pretty awesome

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So I have been getting into incandescent lights a little bit again and got a great deal on a few of these. Wow. Old old school but damn things are bright, throw a ton and are way better then I thought they would be. Not really going anywhere with this post just wanted to voice my opinion šŸ˜
 

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Does it have the adjustable beam? I bought an early version of the TL2 that was adjustable. Much like vintage lights adjusting to flood put out a donut hole in the beam and filament shadow but it was a cool idea anyway. To me the coolest idea was a Burgess that had a sliding collar that slid beside the bulb and blocked light from beside the bulb. That was until Tonys famous cam'd reflector.

The TL3 was pretty dawg gone bright for such a small light. Those 3 extra volts looked like a lot more than that.
 

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Ya it will adjust lol but if used with it not focused it's a pretty nasty looking beam.
 

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I have two of them. One has what looks like the standard bulb and it's bright as hell very little spill all throw. My other has a longer frosted bulb and that thing is fantastic! Totally different beam. Lots of spill and still a ton of throw. Not sure what bulb is in there but wouldn't mind getting a few more.
 

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I always wanted to like the TL-3, but never could because the bi-pin bulbs on mine would always pull out of the socket when I adjusted the focus. I'm not very trusting of bi-pin bulbs to begin with so that always kept me from hanging on to any TL-3's for long. They are really nice looking lights though.
 

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Really? Haven't had that happen to me yet. I know some take the small O-ring out of the reflector to help stop that from happening
 

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the bi-pin bulbs on mine would always pull out of the socket

some take the small O-ring out of the reflector to help stop that from happening

Orange o'ring on reflector is designed for centering the bulb which is too tight and grabbing it with too much force causing the problem.
If you remove it then you should manually center the bulb for best possible beam shape.
 

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I should mention that protected button top P17500's made by AW worked really well in the TL-3. They fit good and not too snug from what I remember. One of the reasons I hated getting rid of the TL-3's I had. Cool light with a nice deep reflector and decent throw if not for that (IMO serious) problem.
 

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Regarding that "serious problem"...

He is referring to the bi-pin bulb in the TL-3 that would on occasion pull out of the socket when you adjusted the focus. I had this happen to me many times. I even started a post about it on 10-28-2005. I just learned to adjust the beam the way I wanted it, made sure the bi-pin was seated well and then left it alone! But that didn't always take care of the problem. Sometimes the bi-pin would come loose through movement or a medium jolt. Really had to check it if you dropped it. At least with mine.

I didn't rely on it in the field but I still have today. I still like it and would not consider getting rid of it. It is a good example of a throwy incandescent.

I use rechargeable li-on's. I found that not all 17500's worked in the light at the time. I still am using two AW flat top 1100 mAh 17500's (the old ones in the blue wrappers) purchased in 2005 with a stock TL-3 bulb. I had tried Pila 150's that were used in my Surefire 9P but I couldn't get them to work in the TL-3.



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NotRegulated,

Yea, I just tried to stop adjusting it as well, but it still would pop out from time to time.. easily. It was a long time ago, but I seem to recall possibly the threads not being super tight so the head could jostle a little and after taking it out of a holster two or three times the lamp would be loose or fall out entirely. Maybe I'm overstating the problem on the ones I had, but it was enough to make me not use them and get rid of them. And I'm sure I never dropped one because I didn't feel they were reliable enough to take out of the basement of the house. I potted lamp assembly and a fixed focus head would have solved most of that light's problems. But now we're basically talking about a cheaper SF M3. Of which I already had plenty. So why bother with the TL-3 and its problems? At least that's how I thought about it back then, and still do.

I used the button top AW's with no issues. I never tried the flat tops in the TL-3, but I would imagine having the same result as you of no issues with those either.
 
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Bending bulb pins are exaggerated in picture to see and underestand how to do.
You can slightly bend the pins without stress to glass. This will hold the bulb better.


bentpinbulb.jpg


After installing clean bulb (with no finger touching) just put the head with single clockwise turn. (Not all the way)
Turn light on and very slowely turn the head clockwise till see best focus. Do not turn counter clockwise.
 

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Its funny how all those years I used an Incandescent Streamlight Stinger with no problems like I had with the TL-3. That also had bi-pin bulbs. I had both early model Stinger bezel with no rubber O-ring as well as the later versions with an O-ring.

I too relied on my Surefires for everyday use along with the Stingers. And of course, an SL-20.
 

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Bending bulb pins are exaggerated in picture to see and underestand how to do.
You can slightly bend the pins without stress to glass. This will hold the bulb better.


bentpinbulb.jpg


After installing clean bulb (with no finger touching) just put the head with single clockwise turn. (Not all the way)
Turn light on and very slowely turn the head clockwise till see best focus. Do not turn counter clockwise.

I have this FM custom 2x18650 TL-3 setup with CL1499 installed, from a >12-year-old purchase. When properly focused the setup yields a very throwy (albeit not clean) hotspot. Nevertheless, the problem with the bi-pin bulb being pulled off from the lamp base still persists (even with some leg bending). So my advice would be to slowly install the frontal reflector assy while focusing the beam. Once the beam is focused, do NOT go pass that point and leave it as is.

On separate note, it turns out this LF tower module is compatible with the original stock incan TL-3 setup
https://lumensfactory.com/en/product_detail.php?pid=380

Just replace the stock bulb socket with the said module, and make sure the module sits properly on the head base (above the battery tube). The result is a very focused beam profile.

Unfortunately, this tower module is NOT compatible with FM's TL-3 setup due to the inability of the tower module to sit properly. This has been repeatedly tested and verified by LF.
 

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I've had a TL-3 since probably around 2005, and with a pair of AW 17500s from the same year (they still work great after 16 years lol). I don't use it much anymore, but back in the day I would use it lots. I even dropped it on concrete a few times, the bulb never fell out, and I've never had the problem with the o-ring pulling out the bulb. But I do know that this is a lottery issue, one out of two SL Scorpions that I bought around the same time has this issue. Best solution is probably to remove the O-ring. Bending the pins doesn't work very well, and it's annoying not being able to focus the beam.

Anyway, this light still sits on my shelf, and I take it out to play with it every now and then. It can't hold a candle compared to the brightness of modern LED lights, but it was the first really bright flashlight that I ever bought. I don't plan on ever getting rid of it, nor will I upgrade it to LED; LEDs just don't have the same magic and excitement as a quality incan. Bright lights are a dime a dozen these days, and I can get a 10x brighter light in any big box store with a cold white beam. But back in 2005 there was a world of difference between the average D-cell grocery store lights (which were about as bright as a match) and one of these lithium powered xenon monsters lol. It really takes me back.
 

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She's a great light. In fact it's damn near as bright as my surefire M4 with Tad's customs 400 lumen bi pin installed. Not sure what's up with that.
 

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Also have a TL3, with focusing feature (also a TL2, NF2, Scorpion, and Polytac incans, all NOS, have focusing beams).

I run it on 2x16500 IMRs. A really nice incan light.

I've also tried a Tad Customs 7212 bulb and works just fine. I even run a Tad 3718 bulb in my Scorpion, but limit it due to plastic lens.

FM, that TL3 2x18650 looks very nice.
 
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