In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

bonvivantmike

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I was thinking the other day about the perfect larger flashlight for me. Since this forum hasn't steered me wrong yet (I have an LSH and a couple UK eLEDs due to advice found here), I thought I'd put this quest before the Flashaholics.

I'm looking for a relatively larger flashlight for outdoor use. I do a small amount of volunteer search and rescue work, as well as having all the regular uses for a good flashlight.

My parameters are as follows:

Brightness -- 3 watt Luxeon

Batteries -- Ordinary batteries, easy to obtain in an emergency. C or D, preferably 3 x C to keep the weight and bulk down while assuring a long runtime. Both alkaline and NiMH.

Regulated -- I strongly prefer regulated lights that have a fairly flat discharge curve until the batteries are almost gone, then a significant dimming to let me know it's feeding time.

Body -- must be metal, both for durability and for the potential to use as a weapon if necessary.

Reflector -- sufficient to give good throw for outdoor use.

Switch -- both momentary and on.

Appearance -- this is very subjective, but should look professional while not appearing to be a Mag. We Flashaholics have a certain image to maintain, after all....


Can anyone think of a flashlight that meets ALL my parameters? I've been using a 4D Mag with an EverLED, but it's just too big and not bright enough.
 

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The Elektrolumens HyperBlaster-1R should fit the bill very nicely. 2D, regulated, 3W, good throw outdoors and about 8 hours burn time between feedings. I like mine a lot!

TerryF
 

JasonC8301

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Along the same lines maybe an Elektrolumens FT-3C.

3C, not regulated but 12 hours bright, and diminishing there after.

http://elektrolumens.com/FT-3C/FT-3C.html

1. Brightness 3W, Match

2. Batteries C, Match

3. Non regulated but from what I read pretty flat discharge, Compromise

4. Body - Nicely done IMHO from the pictures

5. Throw - 30mm optics with 6 degree beam, not sure if this is a Match to yuo're criteria. After experiencing my Tigerlight, I doubt any LED would compare in that price range and size.

6. Switch not sure

7. Looks classy IMHO
 

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Mike, a Mag lite modded with a Lux III and a converter board from Dat2Zip would fit the bill. You would need a Hotlips heat sink for a C or D Maglite and then the appropriate converter board and of course a LuxIII.
 

LEDependent

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[ QUOTE ]
...should look professional while not appearing to be a Mag...

[/ QUOTE ]Wolfen, I think a modded Mag would appear to be a Mag. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 

bonvivantmike

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Those with HyperBlaster-1Rs, can you comment on the relative brightness. Compared to, say, an LSH Standard? I've never seen a Lux 3 light in person, and don't quite know what to expect.

I'm leaning towards this due to the 2D form factor. It's going to be a bit smaller than a 3C, and since batteries come in packages containing even numbers, it's less complicated logistically.
 

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i agree with everyone else.
go to www.elektrolumens.com and listen to Wayne /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif

i wouldn't reccomend the FT3C for outdoor use due to the switch.. something from the Blaster series would be better since they're more water resistent..

Edit:
unless it's not an issue for you! it's not an issue for me and i luv the FT3C, it's my longest throwing/brightest light and it's the smallest 3C flashlight ever.
 

Wolfen

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Yea, a modded mag appears to be a mag until you turn it on.
Then everyone knows it aint a mag. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif

You might want to get a 5 watt light also. It has a broad beam pattern, less throw, but better for search party type operations.
 

BlindedByTheLite

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good idea Mike.
in that case i'd scratch the FT3C and reccomend the Blaster series.

my Blaster 3 has been in 2 big rain storms and got dropped in the slush a bunch of times this winter without any sign of leaks. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif
 

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LuxIII more throw than Lux 5 Watt? Haven't seen one yet that outthrows my SpaceNeedleII at its tightest setting, but I haven't seen them all obviously!

Maybe with a BIG reflector like MRBULK's BBH a LuxIII would do it---Wait, I have one on order---Let me get back to you!

Bill
 

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A LuxIII is a single die, where a LuxV is 4 dies. The closer an emitter is to a point source, the easier it is to make it work with a reflector (an ideal parabolic reflector works best with a point-source) and concentrate the light into a tight hotspot.

Also, better IIIs are often "T" binned, immediately adjacent to a "U" binned V. It's likely going to be difficult to tell the difference between the two visually.
 

bwaites

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Iunderstand your point Idle, but if you take 4X the amount of light, (remembering that a LuxIII is a basically a high performance 1 watt), then theoretically, at least, more than 25 additional percent is going to hit the right spots on the given reflector and the 5 watter should have more throw with better output and spill, from a given reflector.

Since you are using a parabolic reflector, the reflection point would not be the same for the 4 dice as for the single, but nevertheless it is still hitting a spot on the reflector.

MrBulk might be able to rig this test and let us know, I'd love to have a BBH on my SpaceNeedleII, to give it a try!

Bill


I know it has
 

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Unless you're comparing an low S-bin III to an X-bin V (good luck finding X-bin), you're never going to get a "4x" difference in output.

Luxeon bin codes:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>1W/3W (colored)/5W
Lumens
Flux Min Max
=====================
M 13.9 18.1
N 18.1 23.5
P 23.5 30.6
Q 30.6 39.8
R 39.8 51.7
S 51.7 67.2
T 67.2 87.4
U 87.4 113.6
V 113.6 147.7
W 147.7 192.0
X 192.0 249.6
3W (white)
S 60.0 67.2
T 67.2 87.4
U 87.4 113.6
V 113.6 147.7
W 147.7 192.0
X 192.0 249.6</pre><hr />
 

bwaites

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Idle,

Not debating that there isn't REALLY 4 times the light output, nor that the LuxIII really does throw.

Just can't see any possible way that a LuxIII outthrows a 5 watter so long as there is a reasonably sized reflector involved, and that the 5 watter can be adjusted/focused for throw.

I guess I'm a "Show Me" guy. But you may prove me wrong, and I KNOW MrBulk is trying to with the VIP, that's why I have one on order.

Bill
 
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