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    Default In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    I was thinking the other day about the perfect larger flashlight for me. Since this forum hasn't steered me wrong yet (I have an LSH and a couple UK eLEDs due to advice found here), I thought I'd put this quest before the Flashaholics.

    I'm looking for a relatively larger flashlight for outdoor use. I do a small amount of volunteer search and rescue work, as well as having all the regular uses for a good flashlight.

    My parameters are as follows:

    Brightness -- 3 watt Luxeon

    Batteries -- Ordinary batteries, easy to obtain in an emergency. C or D, preferably 3 x C to keep the weight and bulk down while assuring a long runtime. Both alkaline and NiMH.

    Regulated -- I strongly prefer regulated lights that have a fairly flat discharge curve until the batteries are almost gone, then a significant dimming to let me know it's feeding time.

    Body -- must be metal, both for durability and for the potential to use as a weapon if necessary.

    Reflector -- sufficient to give good throw for outdoor use.

    Switch -- both momentary and on.

    Appearance -- this is very subjective, but should look professional while not appearing to be a Mag. We Flashaholics have a certain image to maintain, after all....


    Can anyone think of a flashlight that meets ALL my parameters? I've been using a 4D Mag with an EverLED, but it's just too big and not bright enough.

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    The Elektrolumens HyperBlaster-1R should fit the bill very nicely. 2D, regulated, 3W, good throw outdoors and about 8 hours burn time between feedings. I like mine a lot!

    TerryF

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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    Along the same lines maybe an Elektrolumens FT-3C.

    3C, not regulated but 12 hours bright, and diminishing there after.

    http://elektrolumens.com/FT-3C/FT-3C.html

    1. Brightness 3W, Match

    2. Batteries C, Match

    3. Non regulated but from what I read pretty flat discharge, Compromise

    4. Body - Nicely done IMHO from the pictures

    5. Throw - 30mm optics with 6 degree beam, not sure if this is a Match to yuo're criteria. After experiencing my Tigerlight, I doubt any LED would compare in that price range and size.

    6. Switch not sure

    7. Looks classy IMHO

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    Mike, a Mag lite modded with a Lux III and a converter board from Dat2Zip would fit the bill. You would need a Hotlips heat sink for a C or D Maglite and then the appropriate converter board and of course a LuxIII.

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    I would also recommend Elektrolumen's HyperBlaster-1R. I love mine.

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    [ QUOTE ]
    ...should look professional while not appearing to be a Mag...

    [/ QUOTE ]Wolfen, I think a modded Mag would appear to be a Mag. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Those with HyperBlaster-1Rs, can you comment on the relative brightness. Compared to, say, an LSH Standard? I've never seen a Lux 3 light in person, and don't quite know what to expect.

    I'm leaning towards this due to the 2D form factor. It's going to be a bit smaller than a 3C, and since batteries come in packages containing even numbers, it's less complicated logistically.

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    i agree with everyone else.
    go to www.elektrolumens.com and listen to Wayne [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grinser2.gif[/img]

    i wouldn't reccomend the FT3C for outdoor use due to the switch.. something from the Blaster series would be better since they're more water resistent..

    Edit:
    unless it's not an issue for you! it's not an issue for me and i luv the FT3C, it's my longest throwing/brightest light and it's the smallest 3C flashlight ever.

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    Yea, a modded mag appears to be a mag until you turn it on.
    Then everyone knows it aint a mag. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    You might want to get a 5 watt light also. It has a broad beam pattern, less throw, but better for search party type operations.

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    I guess I should add "waterproof -- impervious to rain at a minimum" to my list of criteria.

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    good idea Mike.
    in that case i'd scratch the FT3C and reccomend the Blaster series.

    my Blaster 3 has been in 2 big rain storms and got dropped in the slush a bunch of times this winter without any sign of leaks. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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    LuxIII more throw than Lux 5 Watt? Haven't seen one yet that outthrows my SpaceNeedleII at its tightest setting, but I haven't seen them all obviously!

    Maybe with a BIG reflector like MRBULK's BBH a LuxIII would do it---Wait, I have one on order---Let me get back to you!

    Bill

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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    A LuxIII is a single die, where a LuxV is 4 dies. The closer an emitter is to a point source, the easier it is to make it work with a reflector (an ideal parabolic reflector works best with a point-source) and concentrate the light into a tight hotspot.

    Also, better IIIs are often "T" binned, immediately adjacent to a "U" binned V. It's likely going to be difficult to tell the difference between the two visually.

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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    Iunderstand your point Idle, but if you take 4X the amount of light, (remembering that a LuxIII is a basically a high performance 1 watt), then theoretically, at least, more than 25 additional percent is going to hit the right spots on the given reflector and the 5 watter should have more throw with better output and spill, from a given reflector.

    Since you are using a parabolic reflector, the reflection point would not be the same for the 4 dice as for the single, but nevertheless it is still hitting a spot on the reflector.

    MrBulk might be able to rig this test and let us know, I'd love to have a BBH on my SpaceNeedleII, to give it a try!

    Bill


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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    Unless you're comparing an low S-bin III to an X-bin V (good luck finding X-bin), you're never going to get a "4x" difference in output.

    Luxeon bin codes:
    <font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>1W/3W (colored)/5W
    Lumens
    Flux Min Max
    =====================
    M 13.9 18.1
    N 18.1 23.5
    P 23.5 30.6
    Q 30.6 39.8
    R 39.8 51.7
    S 51.7 67.2
    T 67.2 87.4
    U 87.4 113.6
    V 113.6 147.7
    W 147.7 192.0
    X 192.0 249.6
    3W (white)
    S 60.0 67.2
    T 67.2 87.4
    U 87.4 113.6
    V 113.6 147.7
    W 147.7 192.0
    X 192.0 249.6</pre><hr />

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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    Oh, here's a post about LuxIIIs throw:

    http://www.candlepowerforums.com/ubb...65&amp;fpart=1

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    Default Re: In Search of the Perfect Light -- for Me

    Idle,

    Not debating that there isn't REALLY 4 times the light output, nor that the LuxIII really does throw.

    Just can't see any possible way that a LuxIII outthrows a 5 watter so long as there is a reasonably sized reflector involved, and that the 5 watter can be adjusted/focused for throw.

    I guess I'm a "Show Me" guy. But you may prove me wrong, and I KNOW MrBulk is trying to with the VIP, that's why I have one on order.

    Bill

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