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    I own two Ariens snowblowers, one is from the late 70s' & another I bought new 5 years ago at a power equipment implement center.
    The new one had a sticker on it saying 'use only non-ethanol gas'. Thought that was interesting because it looked like a factory sticker.

    Asked the sales guy; he said it was their sticker & they started putting those on everything because all they were doing was servicing/warranting machines because of ethanol gas.

    ***My older Ariens has been outside my garage (under a tarp) for now five years, with the coldest of winters & hot humid summers.
    Haven't started it in all that time..
    I'll put $20 down that if I put a extension cord to it's electric start, prime & choke it, that it fires right up.

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    I own two Ariens snowblowers, one is from the late 70s' & another I bought new 5 years ago at a power equipment implement center.
    The new one had a sticker on it saying 'use only non-ethanol gas'. Thought that was interesting because it looked like a factory sticker.

    Asked the sales guy; he said it was their sticker & they started putting those on everything because all they were doing was servicing/warranting machines because of ethanol gas.

    ***My older Ariens has been outside my garage (under a tarp) for now five years, with the coldest of winters & hot humid summers.
    Haven't started it in all that time..
    I'll put $20 down that if I put a extension cord to it's electric start, prime & choke it, that it fires right up.
    Oh NO!!! I wouldn't touch that bet with a Twenty Dollar Bill! ;-)

    Although five years under a tarp, you may have a family of squirrels chewing on your fuel line. Or like me, one year I had a spider make a nest inside the carburetor of my generator. And another time one made a nest inside the feeder tube of my gas grill.
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    I am able to use 100% gasoline - no alcohol. I have stored it in polyethylene containers that were airtight for a year with no problems. I use synthetic two-stroke oil for mixes and it does well with no stabilizer for months at a time - also stored in an airtight container.

    I like to run my carburetors out if I plan on storing any small engine for more than a month.



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    Quote Originally Posted by adnj View Post
    I am able to use 100% gasoline - no alcohol. I have stored it in polyethylene containers that were airtight for a year with no problems. I use synthetic two-stroke oil for mixes and it does well with no stabilizer for months at a time - also stored in an airtight container.

    I like to run my carburetors out if I plan on storing any small engine for more than a month.



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    In my personal experience the 'month' thing is needless. Have a chainsaw that rarely gets used... like once every 2-3 years for special projects. Leave it full of ethanol gas and it always starts on 2-3 pulls. Stihl 026. For that matter, all my 2 stroke stuff starts on 2-3 pulls, but that chainsaw goes longest between uses.
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    IIRC, Stihl and Husqvarna recommend running dry if stored for 6 months or more. One month's storage is just my personal metric so I don't know how it works for people who store for years at a time.

    In general, I probably pull more two-stroke maintenance on carbs, bulbs and fuellines than most. I will clean and swap out parts before failure.



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    Whatever additives you use, whatever type of fuel you use, please just make sure to run your equipment often enough and long enough each time to not have fuel sit too long in one place in the machine. Orbital- this is for you... This machine had sat for "a few years" and the customer couldn't get it started. (snowblower) Added fuel to dry tank, checked spark, and it popped over on starting fluid. My co-worker Walter pulled the carb off and hollered "Holy Cow!" This was the worst gummed up carb I had ever seen. I thought it was picture worthy. Walter got it running after a carb rebuild... This was allegedly regular pump gas with Stabil. I'm certain it sat for longer than a few years, and certain there was no Stabil added. Drain those float bowls, folks.



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    All of our gasoline equipment here on the farm uses non-ethanol only. No exceptions.

    And Seafoam is added to every ounce of gas at a rate of 2oz per gallon. No exceptions.

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    Wow!!!
    That looks like rosin solder flux paste!

    To get that gummy, I guess that started with a full tank of gas. Some dripped in, and evaporated, then a little more dripped in and evaporated, on and on until it was all gone.


    Quote Originally Posted by scout24 View Post
    Whatever additives you use, whatever type of fuel you use, please just make sure to run your equipment often enough and long enough each time to not have fuel sit too long in one place in the machine. Orbital- this is for you... This machine had sat for "a few years" and the customer couldn't get it started. (snowblower) Added fuel to dry tank, checked spark, and it popped over on starting fluid. My co-worker Walter pulled the carb off and hollered "Holy Cow!" This was the worst gummed up carb I had ever seen. I thought it was picture worthy. Walter got it running after a carb rebuild... This was allegedly regular pump gas with Stabil. I'm certain it sat for longer than a few years, and certain there was no Stabil added. Drain those float bowls, folks.



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    Most of the fueling stations have ethanol free premium. If I can't find ethanol free regular, that is what I use in my OPE.
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    What is an OPE?
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    What is an OPE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Gardiner View Post
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    Thanks Chance. You are one smart puppy!

    Even google didn't know what OPE stands for.
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    All OPE such as chain saws, blowers, etc.. It is recommended to drain the tank and then run out the carb dry before tucking tools away during winter

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    My 2018 Ford Escape 2.0L eco-boost
    has been using strictly Ethanol-Free 90+ octane
    "top-tier" gasoline for the past 2 years now.

    * LOVE * it ! ! !


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    BTW --

    Here in the U.S.
    there's been talk of increasing the
    Ethanol amount from the present 10% to 15%


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    Quote Originally Posted by Burgess View Post
    BTW --

    Here in the U.S.
    there's been talk of increasing the
    Ethanol amount from the present 10% to 15%


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    As cheap and plentiful as gas is now we should consider stopping subsidizing ethanol in gas but then that means states that make it would no longer have all that money to prop up their economies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppy View Post
    Thanks Chance. You are one smart puppy!

    Even google didn't know what OPE stands for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncey Gardiner View Post
    Even a stopped clock, buddy. Even a stopped clock.
    LOL... google DID know that reference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by knucklegary View Post
    All OPE such as chain saws, blowers, etc.. It is recommended to drain the tank and then run out the carb dry before tucking tools away during winter

    I always do this. But the gas that you do run dry, should it have stabilizer in it? I learned that somewhere but seems pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markr6 View Post
    I always do this. But the gas that you do run dry, should it have stabilizer in it? I learned that somewhere but seems pointless.
    I've never heard or read such advice, and yes, it does seem pointless.
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    Since a small amount of fuel remains in bottom of carb... not pointless. Also, some fuel w/ be left in tank also. Given the volume of fuel to free air... you can bet this fuel will evaporate and leave thick residue behind. If you leave tank full w/ very little air space the reverse will happen. Just drain the carb...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodog View Post
    Since a small amount of fuel remains in bottom of carb... not pointless. Also, some fuel w/ be left in tank also. Given the volume of fuel to free air... you can bet this fuel will evaporate and leave thick residue behind. If you leave tank full w/ very little air space the reverse will happen. Just drain the carb...
    turbodog, That's a good procedure for 4-stroke equipment. Do you recommend the same for 2-stroke tools?
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    edit: for run dry & carb ect..
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    Honestly, for 2 stoke I leave full of fuel and don't worry about it. Most 2 stroke oil contains fuel stabilizer now. I have done this for decades and have no problem with 2 stroke engines starting after sitting for months or years.

    I usually have to service carbs at 8-12 year mark... usually the 'fuel pump' part stiffens up and makes them hard to crank, or a primer bulb cracks.

    My good results, over this long of time, with this much equipment, can't be just luck...
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    Quote Originally Posted by turbodog View Post
    Honestly, for 2 stoke I leave full of fuel and don't worry about it. Most 2 stroke oil contains fuel stabilizer now. I have done this for decades and have no problem with 2 stroke engines starting after sitting for months or years.

    I usually have to service carbs at 8-12 year mark... usually the 'fuel pump' part stiffens up and makes them hard to crank, or a primer bulb cracks.

    My good results, over this long of time, with this much equipment, can't be just luck...
    Thanks for the real world advice. I agree, it's not luck.
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    That fuel pump bulb is important with 2 stroke engines?

    I'm ready to throw my 2 stroke blower out. If I just need a bulb, I'll let it live a little longer.
    It takes too many pulls to get it started.
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