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    Default One of those \"help me choose\" threads

    Ok, I have gone without a new light long enough. My 2 choices are the Streamlight TT that runs on two of the 123 batteries or the Inova X5. I know the SL will have the option of the regular bulb also where the Inova wont, but that is not really a big deal.

    I am most interested in hearing how they perform and hold up over the long term. How long can you expect decent output from the LEDs before battery change? If you carry one of these lights and use them regularly I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks.

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    I've never done this before and since I'm the first to respond..."get em both". [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] The X5 is a smaller carry but the TT-2L has the advantage of a brighter lamp. If I was restricted to only one I'd get the TT-2L but you may have different needs.

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    Yeah, both would be OK, but there is a gunshow this weekend, and my wife has already decided she wants a new pistol, so one light is probably all I am going to get.

    The extra throw of the regular bulb is as I said not real important. The light would probably be used with LED 99 percent of the time. I mainly looking for which is the best quality and most likely to continue working over the long-haul.

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    A blue X5T is half of my EDC. The X5's are extremely well built. They are marvelous. The decent runtime balanced with something that is bright, makes for a good blend. I really like my X5T.

    I do not know anything about the TT-2L, so I can't comment about it, unfortunately.

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    RichardMT, I would ask you how you'll be using the light. If you'll be carrying it or using it as an EDC, than definitely the X5T. If it will be a general around the house use, (re: go get it when I need it) the TT-2L. It is size vs greater ability. Both have good fit and finish, with the refinement nod going to the X5T. The TT-2L is only driving 3 leds with it's 2x123's instead of 5 for the X5T, so I would imagine raw runtime on leds alone would be longer (and potentially dimmer) on the TT-2L. (Depends on how much current is being fed to each led of course, but assuming they are roughly similar, that would be the result). Can you tell us what you are looking to get out of this light, or if you have an application in mind? For me, I would prefer the brighter option of having the incan when I needed it, as even the X5T is a bit large for my EDC tastes, IMHO. Even using the led's 99% of the time. But, if you're planning for it that way, you should probably go with the X5T; I think you'll be happier with it.

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    Its use will be just kind of a general light. I prefer lights that can be carried daily if I get the urge. It probably wont see any hard use or abusive use. Its kind of sounding like the X5 maybe the way to go.

    And of course the main reason, I just think its time for a new toy [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Phaserburn Has asked the right questions- What is, or are- the context(s) of use for the light? Many of us own several lights, shoes,guns, some even- cars ...due to varying contextual need. Perhaps if you prioritize your requirements we can recommend the ideal light for you. Example:
    1) Primary use
    2) Secondary use
    3) Most important feature
    4) Second most important feature
    5) Least important feature
    6) Budget range
    7) Aquisition time horizon
    8) Accessibility of power

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    Having them both, there is no way I would chose the X5T over the TTL, unless I needed/wanted a specific LED color.

    There is minimal difference in the output of the LEDs, although there are only 3 in the TTL vs. 5 in the Inova. You might want to consider waiting a few weeks for the new Inovas to hit the streets.

    The minimal size difference doesn't seem to be that big a deal as it is essentially only the diameter of the head that is different.

    The xenon capability blows away the slightly smaller size advantage, at least for me!

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    I have both as well, the TT2L is relegated to car trunk living, for it is a more flexible single light, thus applicable to more tasks when mobile (and away from its dozens of brethren).

    At home, I have the X5T knocking around for use similar to what you want, mostly LED, throw not important, general lighting uses. It has noticeably better fit and finish, has a small form factor, and better performance. The LEDs in my TT2L are mismatched and very blue, and at least in mine, dimmer than the X5T.

    For me, the size difference alone means I would EDC the X5T, but never the TT2L (that's why it's in the trunk). The better performance reinforces the decision. Of course, you should get both, just means less ammo for your wife...

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    Another vote for the X5T... but I'd say pick up the HA3 version from countrycomm -- It is very cool.

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    X5T wins on cool factor, TT2L for flexibility.

    Since you have almost no need for long throw, go with COOL!

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    RonM sums it up so perfectly but I'm gonna ramble once more.

    Having played with both, (no long term experience) if I was primarily choosing on reliability and build quality - the X5T seems superior. I almost bought an X5T and it certainly looks cool and unique compared to the TT.

    Anybody have details on Inova's new offering? I came close to getting the X5T so maybe what I'm looking for is their latest model.

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    Thanks for the replies folks. Looks like based on a very slight advantage in fit and finish, that I will probably get the X5. It will be a carry light some days when I can carry something a bit larger than my Ultra. Its mainly to satisfy my urge for a new toy [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    If you want 'toy' factor, go with the TT-2L. Two types of light in one package is fun to play with, and can be very useful too if you need the throw. But if you just plan on using the LEDs most of the time, I would go with the X5T. When I had to use my TT-2L in situations where I turned the light on and off, it was kind of a pain to always have to cycle through to the type of light you want. Sometimes simpler is better. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    I'd say go with the X5t as well. The flood is bright enough for most short to medium range lighting tasks, and you'll get long runtimes on the batts. Furthermore it can also double as a 123 batt drainer. I have nothing against the TT2L, just that I didn't quite like the idea of having to cycle thru the switch to get to either Led or incan. Apart from that the 2L is quite a nice light indeed.

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    I don't have anything by Streamlight, yet. I do have the X5T in White LEDs. Keep in mind its design function: Tactical Flood with very good runtime of 20+ hours total. I chose the X5T very deliberately for these attributes, especially the runtime.

    The X5T is better than these 'throw fanatics' [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] will ever admit. It does very well for me.

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    RichardMT said:
    Yeah, both would be OK, but there is a gunshow this weekend, and my wife has already decided she wants a new pistol, so one light is probably all I am going to get.



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    Wow! You're one lucky gentleman. (having a wife that LIKES guns). [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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    you should get the X5T-HA if you're looking for cool/unbreakable.
    http://www.countycomm.com/x5tha.htm

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    My TT2L is equipped with a kroll switch. It spends some 80% of time in LED mode (and that is what comes on when the kroll is pressed). I do VERY much value the Xenon mode! I EDC this light in a Garrity holster.

    Clickie beats Twist in many cases! Of course there is additional cash outlay to do the kroll...

    That said, the X5 looks nice! My X1 was very nice until I hacked on it. Of course I LIKE it a lot better hacked!

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    X5t.
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    Richard, Playboy Joe brings up the X1, which I still don't really get, but if you want both, great deal at countycomm:

    countycomm X5T/X1 deal

    Nice price for both, then you have flood and spot, in neat little packages.

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    I say wait for the Luxeon based Inovas or get the TT2L and have a clickie installed. Cycling through OFF-LED-OFF-XENON is a major PITA - with a clickie you set the mode using the side button and then have momentary/constant on with the clickie.

    I have an X5T also. It's nice but I question it's output after 20+ hours. Mine seems to dim significantly after one or two hours (and it's the LEDs are every bit as blue as my TT2L!).

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    if you want a easy depression type switch, try the 1W Lux on the Pelican M6 LED, it blows both those lights away. Forego the inadequacy of a short lived Xenon bulb and go with an LED that basically runs forever.

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    I have an X5T also. It's nice but I question it's output after 20+ hours. Mine seems to dim significantly after one or two hours (and it's the LEDs are every bit as blue as my TT2L!).

    Jon

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    This is why I love the CPF... Chuck full of information. There are several lights that are listed with 20+ or even 150+ hours (X5 and SL 7LED 4AA). BUT, checking on the Review Forum, and poof:

    X5 run time is 4 hours to 50% brightness

    SL 7LED 4AA is around 5 hours 10 minutes to 50% output (originally over driven LEDs with new batteries)

    I still like the X5 UV I purchased, and the X5T-HAIII from CountyComm looks great--but I did not delude myself with meaningless runtime numbers from the manufacturers.

    To me, it appears that these runtime charts from Roy, and others, are what are separating the too-good-to-be-true numbers of the unregulated LED lights from the more realistically spec'ed regulated LED lights. For example, the UK eLED 4AA light is advertised to last 11+ hours, and the Opalec is 10+ hours... And they really do. They both also will tail off for hours of dim unregulated light too--if you needed it.

    -Bill

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    Hmm. The X-5...cool light, but it does dimm way down before it`s rated run time (cost around $40). The SL...hard to beat the combination but again, Even running on the 3 LEDS seems to dim sooner than I expected...and then kick in the incandesant...just a sad yellow glow (cost around $30).

    Guess I would buy the UK eLED for $20 over the X-5. Maybe get the L1 body/light to run with it as well if size matters (2x123 batts).

    As for the SL...yea...I guess that would be my pick of the choices.

    But you know...I always reach for the UK eLED. Even over the Pelican M6 Led...and I love that light...just doesn`t seem to have a great high brightness run time. In fact...just checking...the UK is brighter than either my PM6 or SL...and it`s been run and run and run. The other two have maybe a couple hours on them. The cheap little UK has spoiled me at this point. Damm thing is still on the original batts!

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    Thanks everybody for the help. I ended up with the SL, but the one that takes one battery instead of two. It fits in the watch pocket of my jeans very nicely and is quite easy to carry. I got it at the gunshow here over the weekend from a SL distributor that sets up every year there. His prices are a tiny bit higher than what you might find compared to other dealers, but they have always been very nice and helpful when I have bought from them at past shows.

    Certainly not the brightest light around, but plenty for what I need and easy to carry each day.

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