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    Default Deliver in forest regularly, could use some recommendations

    Hello all. This is my first post in these forums. I am a long time UPS driver, and a flashlight is an essential tool for us in many ways, especially here in the Pacific Northwest of the US when the daylight gets low in the winter which is the same time our volume goes up as we go into the Christmas season. My main use for my flashlight is as a spotlight that I can grab quickly out of my cupholder to shine onto houses to look for addresses (PSA - please post your address on your house clearly and do not cover it with holiday decorations. An ambulance or fire responder may need it as well!). Another big selling point on a new flashlight acquisition for me though will be how I can utilize it in the deep parts of the Oregon forest. I often cover routes for drivers who are off work in the country areas here, and it is the truest sense of backcountry populated with mountain lions, bears and wolves. Most of my concern though is with roving packs of "domesticated" dogs. People out here let them run loose, and I would like a light that I can use when walking onto these properties away from the shelter of my truck so that I can see a threat coming as well as use my light to temporarily blind any of these animals that pose a threat to me. Lastly, I'd like to not spend a fortune. Wouldn't we all? But I realize quality comes at a price, and when I look on Amazon it is easy to see that I will get easily ripped off there and not acquire the tool that I need. I am willing to spend a little but want something genuine. That is where you all come in! I know I can contact the real experts here! I dream of spending $50 but know that over $100 is likely. What I would value most of all is the input from this community. Can anybody help me out?

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    Lights have very little effect on animals..if any.
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    Save a little money on your flashlight budget and at least carry some form of pepper spray if legal in your area because lean burn is right. A light isnít going to help you with aggressive animals.
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    A Malkoff Wildcat and a bear spray canister.

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    Acebeam L18 - handheld searchlight... low to turbo, strobe, moonlight, burst .... check it out.

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    I see now that I should mention that I carry bear spray and a baseball bat already. I am just looking for light recommendations here. But thank you all, you are right to prescribe what would help the most first. I should have told you that I already carry those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wweiss View Post
    A Malkoff Wildcat and a bear spray canister.
    Thanks I will check that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wweiss View Post
    A Malkoff Wildcat and a bear spray canister.
    Quote Originally Posted by sledhead View Post
    Acebeam L18 - handheld searchlight... low to turbo, strobe, moonlight, burst .... check it out.
    Thanks I will look into the L18 too.

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    Every time these "What should I buy??" threads come out, the other members always post (to me) these odd ball consumer brand flashlights. And I am "that guy" that speaks up with the more heavy duty police level lights. I have been posting here for a long time- PELICAN. They offer a REAL LIFE TIME WARRANTY that they back and no one else is posting a light that offer the same warranty except Streamlight.

    UPSguy- I would spend the good money up front and get a heavy duty police level light that is USB rechargeable, police grade, water proof, different light modes and will last you forever as an investment. I like the Pelican 5050r and have been recommending it here. You can call or email Pelican if you have an issue and they respond right away. If a light breaks, they typically send you a brand new one. Buy something that is rugged, durable and will last you your whole career, that's what the cops do, they dont get the cheap consumer level crap with no warranty. I would avoid Fenix and Olight as well. The cops use the high grade stuff, so should you. Also get some Pepper Spray (OC). Not the cheap gas station kind, rather the up graded model of a flip up top cap model that is a good size.

    Hit me back in PMs if you have any questions. NO I do not work for Pelican or any light maker.

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    Desertrunner, do you work for Pelican?

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    Mods or Admin- The link you removed was not a sales link, rather the company link. There is not other company product link other than the one I posted. How can I give the guy a link to reference without breaking the rules. Again, that link was the company link, not a sales link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strintguy View Post
    Desertrunner, do you work for Pelican?
    No. I just know good lights and only recommend the top grade, not low level stuff. I have been using Pelican and Streamlight on the job, in the streets since the early 90s.

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    Malkoff is an obscure oddball consumer brand? There is nothing at all wrong with pelican lights and I still own a few but wow.
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    There are lights under $50 that could do the job. I've bought a Sofirn SP32 V2.0 that puts out about 1300 lumens on Turbo and 600 lumens on high and has a side switch. You can get one for under $30. I prefer a light that I can remove the battery myself regardless of built in charging as it eliminates the need to use another light when the battery gets depleted in use. Wowtac makes a few lights in similar range and there are probably another half a dozen 18650 or 21700 cell lights out there made by Malkoff and others that for a bit more have outputs even higher. You may want to look at a light with a larger head and reflector if you find yourself needing more reach. Higher lumens output does help reach noticeably but lower lumens and a tighter beam can be more useful if it is a more dedicated light. Another consideration is tint also.... some like CW some NW and some WW and the default tint on lights can be CW. I prefer NW myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigburly912 View Post
    Malkoff is an obscure oddball consumer brand? There is nothing at all wrong with pelican lights and I still own a few but wow.
    Did I specifically state that? Did I post that brand name? No, you did. Back your play, how many police departments use them? Did you state a lifetime warranty?
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    Default Re: Deliver in forest regularly, could use some recommendations

    Check out the Olight
    The Warrior X Pro can shine onto houses to look for addresses.

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    ACEBEAM L18
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    UPSguy have a look at the Streamlight ProTac HL5-X, I bought the one supplied with 4 X CR123's and replaced them with 2 x 18650 3500mAh Keeppower batteries. You could keep the CR123's as an emergency back up.

    The HLX-5 has good throw and on low/medium/high with 250/1000/3500 lumens when used with 18650's. It is a robust flashlight and has a rubberised exterior coating which helps handling in cold conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave D View Post
    UPSguy have a look at the Streamlight ProTac HL5-X, I bought the one supplied with 4 X CR123's and replaced them with 2 x 18650 3500mAh Keeppower batteries. You could keep the CR123's as an emergency back up.

    The HLX-5 has good throw and on low/medium/high with 250/1000/3500 lumens when used with 18650's. It is a robust flashlight and has a rubberised exterior coating which helps handling in cold conditions.
    I would disagree on this advice because you have to remove the batteries separately on the HL5-X and recharge them individually. If someone is putting in 40+ hours a week and jamming on a route, I would not want to have batteries and USB cables and a flashlight all over my dash. I am a Streamlight guy too, I rather just plug in my light to the dash and let it charge some before hitting the route. Or have it charge overnight as you come on duty in the morning. I saw this as I worked patrol and did not want flashlight parts all over my patrol vehicle. Streamlight does make a couple USB direct charge lights as well.

    This is not ideal...

    Much cleaner and less stuff to get lost in the delivery truck cab...



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    I'm thinking small is best. A small light with huge candella. Imagine carrying a tv up to a porch. So carrying a 2x18650 light is impractical at that point. Something you can hold like a cigarette can be used at that point butÖÖcan that light spot a house number from a football field away?

    Also consider UPS guy drives a different truck each day. They don't assign unit 1245 to a driver and he drives it every day. Trucks are loaded based off volume so if his route is quadrant C today (with 1000 packages) and tomorrow quadrant G (400 packages with a reload arriving at 3pm) he has a different truck. So the light would probably be best worn on a belt with ability to quickly deploy. Belt clipped lights can poke you in the side while driving so a holster would probably be best.

    The light should probably start on high for the ability to start out as a search light but have quick access to low to avoid self blinding. Definitely a law enforcement/first responder grade of durability potential. Not something that if the tailcap flickers UPS guy has to send a video to get a warranty service.

    UPS guy, I realize your spare time is at a minimal right now but I would reccomend you visit a firearm store where the proprietor can show you options based on your needs. A police supply store would be better. In the meantime perhaps consider flashlight gloves as well. They can be a fingerless type or one that covers the hand(s) for insulating during cool/cold evenings. They usually have a small, focused beam for spotting stuff at a distance from a domed LED lens. Bicyclists swear by them.

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    A pack of cheap hotdogs.
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    Best post EVERRRRRR^^
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    I had a dog attack me on my courier job and my flashlight protected me...he bit the flashlight deep in my pocket avoiding my family jewels.
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    My first thought was an LED maglite. I can't make a specific recommendation within the brand because I haven't kept up with all the models introduced in the last year or so. Nor do I know at what distance you are usually scanning for address numbers.

    I gave my dad a 3D LED and he used it's pencil thin beam to read street signs that his headlights didn't reach up to.

    I delivered pizza's one night about 10 years ago and found that the Rayovac 2AA 100 lumen? light was sufficient for locating address numbers that were 30-100 feet away. It has a thin thrower beam.

    The maglite can be used as a club, but I see that you already carry a baseball bat. So now I am thinking that you may do well to wear a headlamp when out of the truck. That would leave your two hands free to:
    1. carry a package
    2. carry a bat
    3. drop the package and reach for your bear spray.
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    Boy I tell you that Streamlight ProTac HL5-X is not a bad choice at all. I have the older version and itís more light then you need. Remember you do not have to charge them batteries with a usb cable. You can charge them up with a regular charger with a car adapter. Buy 4 cells you will be all set
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    Good ideas Poppy.

    Petzl Tactikka Core headlamp might just do the trick. Runs off a supplied 1250 mAh rechargeable Petzl cell, aaa cells or eneloops. Also has red option for preserving low light adapted vision.
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    Thrower in the truck to spot the address, headlamp for the actual delivery 🏻

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    Quote Originally Posted by thermal guy View Post
    Boy I tell you that Streamlight ProTac HL5-X is not a bad choice at all. I have the older version and itís more light then you need. Remember you do not have to charge them batteries with a usb cable. You can charge them up with a regular charger with a car adapter. Buy 4 cells you will be all set
    Yeah bro, but he is in a truck all day, all shift. He doesnt want to carry around an extra USB cable or a charging cradle. I have worked patrol in a vehicle were youre in and out multiple times a day and its much easier to quickly charge a flashlight with just one cable and then re-plug back in your cell phone as well. Multiple cables and/or a charging cradle is just too much. Its quicker to just throw a USB cable on your light at the end of a shift and let it charge for the next shift or while on the route. Remember, simple and easy is ideal when on the road and in and out of a truck for 8+ hours.

    Get this bundle and it will charge the iPhone/smart phone and then the flashlight. Keep it simple sweetie.



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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    Good ideas Poppy.

    Petzl Tactikka Core headlamp must just do the trick. Runs off a supplied 1250 mAh rechargeable Petzl cell, aaa cells or eneloops. Also has red option for preserving low light adapted vision.
    Petzl has MANY people who swear by them, and your suggestion of one that allows primary emergency backup power is brilliant.

    The tactikka has about 450 lumens... that's plenty.
    I think Petzl has some that are designed for runners, that change their focus from narrow beam, to wide beam and back depending upon what the runner is looking at. That seemed to be pretty cool. I don't know how well that worked out in the field, or over all how popular that concept became.

    I don't know much about headlamps I found the Crelant CH10 460 lumens and fell in love with it, but over time they proved to be unreliable. So if the OP looks for headlamp suggestions, I'll leave that to you and others.

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    Thrower in the truck to spot the address, headlamp for the actual delivery
    Hey Tejasandre!
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    Default Re: Deliver in forest regularly, could use some recommendations

    OK Desertrunner, here's the deal. CPF staff makes every effort towards the goal of CPF being a welcoming place; 'recommendation' threads in particular tend to have new members posting, and we would like to put our best foot forward.

    Staff has already posted a rather specific advisory on this topic category just yesterday, and I hope that we don't need to do this in each thread involved. Thank you for your understanding and best regards,

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