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    Default "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    https://www.osram.com/ecat/SUPER%20B...0/ZMP_1066356/

    Are these 62261SBP bulbs worth buying?

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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by dyochambaz View Post
    Are these 62261SBP bulbs worth buying?
    If you think you might want to melt lamp assemblies or wiring. The H7 is nominally 55W-- these are 80W.
    Glare can be a consideration, too-- these are 1950lm compared to the 1500lm (±10%) of a standard H7.

    What vehicle are you thinking you want to use these with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaric Darconville View Post
    If you think you might want to melt lamp assemblies or wiring. The H7 is nominally 55W-- these are 80W.
    Glare can be a consideration, too-- these are 1950lm compared to the 1500lm (±10%) of a standard H7.

    What vehicle are you thinking you want to use these with?
    2009 Jetta high beams

    I'm just looking for a replacement for the osram 64217 bulbs without having to have an email conversation with Daniel Stern (not that I have anything against the guy; I don't know him) like I'm buying something off Craigslist.

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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by dyochambaz View Post
    2009 Jetta high beams
    Glare shouldn't be an issue in the high beams if you're using them correctly. Still can be some concerns with the 45% higher wattage, though-- that's where emailing Daniel Stern may be your best bet.

    Also: https://www.danielsternlighting.com/.../products.html
    H7 bulbs
    These single-filament bulbs are found in the low beams, high beams and fog lamps of many European and Japanese vehicles made since the 1990s. Fun Fact: The H7, introduced in 1993, was the first new halogen headlamp bulb design type-approved to Europe's Regulation 37 in twenty years. It touched off a wave of research and development that saw a dozen new halogen bulb types introduced over the next 15 years.

    65-watt, 2100-lumen
    Ultra High Output Vosla (H9 burner on H7 base, race and special-purpose): $28.76/ea
    (or $24.45/ea for 12+ at a time)


    Exact replacement for the Osram 64217, which was discontinued several years ago. After a great deal of work, I have secured new availability of first-quality, German-made 65w - 2100 lumen H7 bulbs. They are in stock and now shipping! Send me an email to buy them.

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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by dyochambaz View Post
    https://www.osram.com/ecat/SUPER%20B...0/ZMP_1066356/
    Are these 62261SBP bulbs worth buying?
    No, they're worth ignoring. They draw more current (enough more to pose a danger to your car's electrical system) and put out less light and with poorer beam focus than the 65w Vosla H7s you can get from Dan Stern. There is literally nothing an 80w H7 bulb does better than the 65w H7 bulb.

    (As far as I know Stern's the only source for them, so if you can't bring yourself to buy them the way he sells them...I guess that's a choice not to buy them. I've never had a bad experience buying from him, so I don't see what the big deal is, but everyone's entitled to their own opinion.)
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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    Quote Originally Posted by -Virgil- View Post
    There is literally nothing an 80w H7 bulb does better than the 65w H7 bulb.
    It's good at melting lamp assemblies and burning up wiring, defocusing a headlamp's beam, and plying money from the wallets of people who think bulb wattage is the sole determinant of bulb output.

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    I thought the 80 watts might've been marketing hogwash or at a different voltage or something like that and be very similar bulbs to the old osrams. Thank you for the information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dyochambaz View Post
    I thought the 80 watts might've been marketing hogwash or at a different voltage or something like that and be very similar bulbs to the old osrams. Thank you for the information.
    Bulb sellers like PIAA or IPF might either lie about their standard wattage offerings and say they are higher wattage; others might claim that "55W=80W" because they're implying their bulbs would output as much as an 80W one would while drawing only 55W; still others might make overwattage bulbs but label them as the standard wattage so when the driver is pulled over they can 'prove' the bulbs are standard wattage. Osram, on the other hand, isn't as likely to deliver hogwash in any of these formats (although they do have the "cool blue intense" showing they do sometimes sell some junky products).

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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    What about the Flosser 12070 80w H7?

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    Default Re: "80 watt" osram h7 bulbs

    Ahhhh, I actually did this 3 years ago. I can't remember why. I was probably just tired. I'd stay away based upon the advice given here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vercingetorix View Post
    What about the Flosser 12070 80w H7?
    80w H7s are kind of pointless no matter the brand name; the 65w H7 produces slightly more light, gives better beam focus, draws less power (therefore doesn't endanger the wiring) and throws off less heat (therefore doesn't endanger the lamps).

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    I can highly recommend the Vosla H7s you can get from Daniel Stern referenced here. They offered a nice boost in output over the stock bubs without risking excess heat and or current. I initially put them on one side as a test to compare them to the stock bulbs and all though they aren't a night and day difference, the increased usable output was quite noticeable. Emailing and ordering from Daniel Stern was painless. I recommend ordering extra as spares.

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    I recorded the actual wattage drawn on three different H4 bulbs, and one sealed beam( Sylvania Silverstar h6054). I recorded wattages at different voltages, applied to their terminals, with an adjustable voltage power supply capable of 100 amps output.

    Most did not draw their rated wattage until over 14 volts, on low beam. The Flosser with a 100 watt high beam did not draw 100 watts until just over 14.5v, and I doubt many vehicles have voltage this high reaching the headlight connectors.


    Voltage........ Wattage low beam.............................Wattage High beam..........
    00.00v..........GE.......XV.......SS.......FLO.... ..............GE........XV..........SS...........F LO 55/100......
    11.00v..........30.4....36.7.....27.3......37.9... .............51.6.....54.3.......55.8...........64 .5..............
    11.50v..........37.2....39.3.....29.2......40.5... .............56.3.....59.4.......60.............69 .1...............
    12.00v..........39.8.....42.0....31.2......43.2... ..............60.0....63.4.......64.3..........73. 8...............
    12.50v..........42.5.....44.6....37.5......45.8... .............64.1.....67.7.......68.6..........78. 8...............
    13.00v..........44.9.....47.1....35.3......48.6... .............60.0.....71.8.......72.9..........83. 7...............
    13.50v..........47.6.....50.0....37.5......51.5... .............72.1.....77.2.......77.3..........88. 9...............
    14.00v..........50.4.....52.8....39.5......54.6... .............76.3.....81.1.......82.2..........94. 1...............
    14.50v..........53.2.....55.6....41.7......57.3... ..............80.7....85.6.......86.8..........99. 6...............
    15.00v........--.---......60.8....43.9......60.5.................85.2. ...90.5.......91.6..........105.3.............
    15.56v.......--.---.......--.--....46.5.............................--.-......--.-.........96.8

    NO idea how this data correlates to H7 bulbs, but as the experts pointed out elsewhere the higher wattage rated bulbs often do not draw their stated wattage and there is no guarantee that more wattage consumed equals more light output.

    Higher actual amp draw with a truly higher wattage bulb, would cause more voltage drop on the likely insufficient wiring and multiple connectors of the headlamp circuit and less voltage means less wattage consumed.

    My wattage draw tests above were conducted without voltage drop being a factor on the circuit, a voltmeter on the tangs of the bulb itself would have been within 0.02 of a volt.
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