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    Default New 6D Maglight

    So, in a moment of weakness, I bought my last light of the year. A new 6D Mag for thirty couple bucks. My only other Maglights are a Malkoff'd 2C and a KYFishguy single 14500 powered Triple. So, I'm not super well versed in Maglight.
    This thing is a monster. I'm thinking a Kaidomain LOP reflector and glass lens. Maybe some NiMH cells to lose a little weight. And stock up on bulbs before yet another incan icon goes by the wayside...
    Any upgrade suggestions while staying incan and using actually available components are welcome! More lumens are good lumens...
    Any and all 6D discussion is welcome also, I had to go back a good ways to find 6D threads here in the subforum.
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    Itís really funny that you posted this. I was over my parents house the other day and found my old 6D mag (red) and brought it home with me with the plan to do something with it. Just not sure what yet.
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    you can get 5000lm drop in, or if you want the hotwire, go with Osram 90w 12v bulb, with 5 li ion cells it makes about 10k lm
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    IMHO best mod is an OP or MOP reflector on these. It makes the beam much more floody and smooth while still keeping some throw. I can't believe Mag didn't include an OP reflector from the factory on these lights as it get rid of 99% of the complaints I hear. I never realized how great a Maglite was until I ditched the stock SMO reflector. I've even been cheaping out on the last few restomods I've done and I've been sputtering the stock reflectors.

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    Nostalgia or bazooka?
    For nostaligia, buy a beam cleaning acrylite lens from flashlight lens and some PR base xenon Maglite bulbs. Perhaps try a 5 cell bulb to get a little extra kick.
    For bazooka I'll let the experts on that have the microphone. That thing has potential to be used as a street lamp.
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    Well, MOP reflector and glass AR coated lens inbound. It's a start. Definitely need to hit the gym if I stick with alka-leaks. Researching NiMH "D" cells today. I like the 5 cell bulb idea, bykfixer. LiftDT4R- Hairspray or clear spraypaint for sputtering? I may just try that while waiting for the aluminum reflector, at least you can go a little bit at a time to try various results...
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    I used a clear engine paint fogged over the lens from about 2 feet above with short sptits. I'd spray test, spray, test and found that 3 sprits gave best combo of beam cleaner without killing the Mag-spot that is what makes a Maglite a Maglite. Acylite lens is better but it aint glassÖÖ
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    if you going for a hotwire you'll need borosilicate glass, regular AR coated glass will crack pretty fast there is no need for aluminum reflector with led conversion, it does not get hot, plastic will do just fine, actually stock led reflector that Maglite uses for older led models, are pretty good, zbattery.com sells them for like 8 bucks. you can turn any smooth reflector into OP, by technique called splattering, you'll need a spray can of clear coat. there was a thread on how to do it, but i can't find it, or it could have been discussed in unrelated thread, maybe someone else knows where to find it, i'll post a link when i do find it.
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    Krylon crystal clear works well. Short bursts of spray, letting each dry completely before the next.
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    I have a few extra reflectors I can send you if you want to cover shipping.
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    I used a glass surface to get my technique dialed in. ie determined best distance and time with button held. That also helps you get familiar with the characteristics of the spray can as the spray can very greatly from can to can.
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    Just replace that standard PR-bulb that's most probably still in for a new Maglite bi-pin bulb that comes with that hard plastic adapter. These bulbs are KING! But don't go the 5-cell route, it will blow quite soon.
    Regarding batteries: shed some weight by using NiMH?? In that case, you didn't get the RIGHT NiMH batteries... the only really good ones I know, are the Ansmann 10Ah(!) ones. And they are HEAVY! No wonder, as they must be filled to the brim with useful content ;-)
    Think about it: 10,000 mAh! That will give you some serious 10+ hours of run time! And YES, these batteries will deliver.... 10Ah or very close to it. No marketing BS.

    Other options are rare, but I cannot enccourage you enough to get a glass lens and LOP metal reflector from Kaidomain. These are very good parts! Maybe FiveMega still has some ROP bulbs in 7.2V? ONLY use these with a metal reflector and glass lens!! Stock items WILL melt!!

    I bought a load of PR-base bulbs from Tad Customs JUST before he closed his business, 7.2V and 1.2A / 1.8A respectively. As he wrote next to them: these are hands down the finest PR bulbs available, ever. And he is right... I use them with caution, don't want to run out of these... but they have good life, around 50 hours IIRC.

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    If you want lighter weight, you can run it on a pair of protected Li-ion 26650's or even AA Eneloops in adapters. Full capacity NiMH's like Soshine and Tenergy are just as heavy if not heavier than alkalines.

    As far as standard Mag bulbs go, I like the old PR base xenons if you can find 'em. The newer bi-pins are OK but I can never get them centered properly for optimal focus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 325addict View Post
    Just replace that standard PR-bulb that's most probably still in for a new Maglite bi-pin bulb that comes with that hard plastic adapter. These bulbs are KING! But don't go the 5-cell route, it will blow quite soon.
    Regarding batteries: shed some weight by using NiMH?? In that case, you didn't get the RIGHT NiMH batteries... the only really good ones I know, are the Ansmann 10Ah(!) ones. And they are HEAVY! No wonder, as they must be filled to the brim with useful content ;-)
    Think about it: 10,000 mAh! That will give you some serious 10+ hours of run time! And YES, these batteries will deliver.... 10Ah or very close to it. No marketing BS.

    Other options are rare, but I cannot enccourage you enough to get a glass lens and LOP metal reflector from Kaidomain. These are very good parts! Maybe FiveMega still has some ROP bulbs in 7.2V? ONLY use these with a metal reflector and glass lens!! Stock items WILL melt!!

    I bought a load of PR-base bulbs from Tad Customs JUST before he closed his business, 7.2V and 1.2A / 1.8A respectively. As he wrote next to them: these are hands down the finest PR bulbs available, ever. And he is right... I use them with caution, don't want to run out of these... but they have good life, around 50 hours IIRC.
    running rop ho bulb with 6 nimh d cells isn't a good idea D cells provide plenty of current, and it runs the bulb too hot, it melts solder on positive contact of the bulb. i had that happen after about 10 min of use. it wont happen with rop lo, but it is only half of the output
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    Thatís interesting, I didnít know that!

    I may dig out my 6D and see if I have any ROP bulbs squireled away!

    I have Eneloops and ďDĒ adapters though.

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    the bulb rop ho 6v overdriven by 6 (7.2v nominal) cells, pulls about 5 amps, unless it is Five mega holders, chances are there will be loses due to resistance, but it may actually work to your advantage, you wont melt the bulb.

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    do these MOP and OP reflectors come in metal or are they plastic? I`v been considering replacing the PR socket with something like a ceramic G4 bi pin type, I just haven`t found anything compatible yet.

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    If you Google KaiDomain tugs the overseas web-store we purchase the reflectors from.

    Typically going to be MOP or LOP, some maybe smooth for throw, and has a removable camming device that threads off of the reflector if you donít need it.

    Be prepared to purchase a couple at one time as thatís what most of us do.

    Love those things.

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    They are alluminum KA with a removable cam. Actually pretty nice replacements.
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    Agreed, they're good product. The one I have in my Malkoff'd 2C is very nicely made.they're listing OP and MOP right now, I made the presumption that OP is more "orange peeled" than MOP. We'll see.
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    Yeah, I think "MOP" was "medium orange peel" if I remember right. It's been a long time since I thought about this stuff, but I was digging through my handful of C and D Maglites this evening.

    I was wanting to put a 3-cell bulb into my 4-C light, running NiMH AAs in adapters, but couldn't find the bulb

    The stock 4-cell bi-pin bulb works okay but it's pretty warm yellow/orange colored at the lower voltage. I've got a stock lens on there that I covered with Scotch tape for a quick-n-dirty diffuser. Works pretty well but I think it also colors the beam somewhat.

    Man, I was looking around on Amazon for stock Mag bulbs out of curiosity, and the few that I found were something like 10 bucks each! Yikes.

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    I must be doing something wrong because there`s Nothing for maglite or maglight showing on KD, I`v signed up and got an account with them, done a search and there`s nothing? even in "Brands" the letter `M` is missing and the search is painfully slow as well, it`s badly lagged and almost unusable, is it always like this?

    Nevermind, I waded through all 14 pages of reflectors to discover that it`s "M*g" being used instead, How do they even sell anything doing dumb stuff like that???
    Anyway, if I found the right item, it`s $10.24 and stock code: S004023, am I right?
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    Some camless reflectors are available here.

    M*g Charger ceramic slugs will fit and work on M*g "D" and "C"

    G4 and G6.35 ceramic sockets for M*g 'D" are available here.

    Super bulbs are also available here.
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    Katherine Alicia- In the litigious society we call home, spelling M*glite with an asterisk or "@" symbol has became and remains commonplace in our hobby.

    Fivemega- Thanks for the reminder about parts availability!
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    well I`v got a MOP and OP on the way, it`ll give me chance to see which one I like the most before converting others over. All my mags have the AR fitted already so should be ok with some of the Non nuclear bulbs out there

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    Why do you guys and gals only now discover metal Maglite reflectors?
    I've been using metal reflectors and UCL/Borofloat lenses for ages in my mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    Why do you guys and gals only now discover metal Maglite reflectors?
    I've been using metal reflectors and UCL/Borofloat lenses for ages in my mods.
    I tend to mod mine for a bit then put it away, then 6 months later mod it some more then put it away etc...
    my 6D alone is into me for over £80 so far, so little often is best I find
    This time around it`s metal reflectors, it`ll go nice with my AR glass and a crenelated bezel.

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    my latest 6d mod with 90w osram bulb, and FM throwmaster reflector, tail switch and machined \ treaded tube, ran me around $300, not including 5 high current cells, this hobby can get somewhat expensive. my other 6d with par 36 landing light, and FM par36 head was around 200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icarus View Post
    Why do you guys and gals only now discover metal Maglite reflectors?
    I've been using metal reflectors and UCL/Borofloat lenses for ages in my mods.

    Most of us don't mod Mags anymore. It's too easy to get an off the shelf light with similar performance for much less cost.

    Although I just added a UCL Borofloat window to my new ML300 and was messing around with aspherics again last night.
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    I still like to give the stock reflector a shot of clear Krylon to lightly sputter to clear up splotchy holes in the beam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sween1911 View Post
    I still like to give the stock reflector a shot of clear Krylon to lightly sputter to clear up splotchy holes in the beam.
    it will, i built shorty mag 1x18650, P7 led, and used stock Maglite reflector from old inc. model, splattered it, and the beam even and smooth, despite 4chip die led and reflector made for inc. bulbs,

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