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    Lightbulb Challenge Week #1: Incandescent Only! (2021 edition)

    Intro: Kicking off a new series of CPF Challenge Weeks for 2021! If you haven't seen one of these before, a little background:

    Originally started by CPF member Carrot approximately 10 years ago, these challenges each have a different "theme" which restricts or limits your flashlight usage in some way for the duration of a week. Why do that? To get people to try new things and get creative in meeting the requirements of the challenge, and to have fun along the way! You might even gain a new appreciation for a type of lights you've mostly ignored in the past, or perhaps appreciate some of your other lights more!

    The Challenge:

    We'll start off with a warm-up challenge, in more ways than one: Incandescent flashlights ONLY! It can be any configuration, battery type, brand, etc. The requirement is that they all are using that hot-glowing filament to produce light!

    Switching between different incan lights is fine; in fact, carrying a backup incan is a good idea to keep from failing the challenge, because if you're unlucky enough that your incan light blows its bulb and you have to pull an LED backup, then you FAIL! So be ready to back up your incan with another incan.

    We'll make the official start day as this Sunday or Monday (10th/11th), depending on what you want to call your "week"; a full 7-days or just a "work week" M-F. Of course, you can do this whenever so don't feel like you missed it if you're late to the party!

    And if you don't have any suitable lights for this (or other) challenge, don't worry! You don't have to run out and buy anything, because I've got several more challenge ideas in the works, and so do some of the other members here. We're going to cover a broad range, so everybody gets a chance!


    And now, the "Rules", and some answers to FAQs. Read through these, and let me know if there's anything else. Good luck!


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    1. Safety First! While attempting to meet the challenge:

    a. Don't do anything that would endanger yourself.
    b. Don't do anything to endanger others.
    c. Don't put any property (yours, or others') at risk
    d. Be nice to animals.
    e. If you DO cause some disaster, be sure to get good video.
    f. Don't get fired from your job. (job security is safety too!)


    2. You can carry additional lights etc for emergency needs in support of rule #1.

    a. For example, if your job requires some particular light use outside of what the "challenge light" can do, that's okay. However! Report any such usage by posting in the challenge thread, so your fellow flashaholics can judge you innocent or guilty


    3. Rules for the FAIL

    a. You fail for using any other light that falls outside the rules of the challenge. If you grab the "wrong" light but stop yourself before you actually activate it, you're still good. If you click it ON, however, you have FAILED!

    b. Item (a) above applies 24/7 for the challenge week! No excuse for waking up in the middle of the night and activating the "wrong" light.
    c. If you fail, you must post your failure to the Challenge thread. The first thing in the post should be the FAIL smiley to make sure the offenders' posts don't get lost among regular update posts!

    d. A fail doesn't mean you are "out" or "disqualified" or anything. By all means, continue the week if you wish!


    3. Post any relevant/interesting pictures if you're using something uncommon, oddball, etc.


    4. No "playing" with flashlights that fall outside the rules of the challenge. Even if it's not "actual" use, ie, sitting watching TV and clicking the light on and off.

    a. "Function Testing" of a newly arrived light is okay, because of the time-sensitive need of getting a replacement for a defective light within the window for returns.

    b. No cheating by abusing the Function Test clause! For example, if we're doing an old-school 5mm LED challenge, that doesn't mean that you can go out and buy a 10-mode-Mega-Lumen-Ultra-Light and then "Function Test" it during that week! We have the FBI on contract to monitor all participants by using drones and satellite imagery so don't try it!



    5. Rewards for Successful Completion of the Challenge:

    a. Bragging rights on CPF
    b. Respect from your fellow CPF members (nah, probably not)
    c. A depleted bank account if you go nuts buying stuff for the challenge


    6. Misc other Stuff

    * "Duration" of the challenge: The week can be the full seven days, or just the work-week Mon-to-Fri if you prefer. Don't get too hung up over missing a day or two and having to start, say, on Tuesday. Main idea is to get in a routine, at least for several consecutive days, of using the challenge light(s).
    a. As Pirate Captain Barbossa would say, these are more "guidelines" than actual "rules", so don't take any of this too seriously
    b. Have fun
    c. Bust out of your flashlight comfort zone and learn stuff you might not have known! The spirit of the challenge is to create arbitrary restrictions that force you to be creative, adaptable, and flexible! Photographers do this frequently with similar challenges to use only one focal length lens, only 35mm film, only black-and-white, etc etc. Keeps things fresh, boosts creativity, forces you to look at things in new ways, and so on.
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    Addendum to Original Rule Set:

    A1. The "courtesy clause". There's an exemption allowed if you must violate challenge rules in order to maintain polite relations with friends, family, coworkers, etc. So, for instance, if someone offers you a light that is outside the boundaries of the challenge, you are allowed to accept the light for that situation, since it could be considered impolite to refuse.

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    Last edited by Stress_Test; 01-23-2021 at 09:19 PM. Reason: Added Addendum A1

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    Default Challenge Week #1: Incandescent Only! (2021 edition)

    Iím in! I will have to start Monday since I might be visiting a buddy tomorrow to test some lights out so I donít want to Fail! before I start. For pocket duty Iíll be using a Lumens Factory E series build running a 90 lms bulb on 16340. For max output if needed I will use my old skool ROP hotwire in a Mag 2D using a 6AA Eneloop caddy.


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    Some lEgo to make my aviatEr incan.


    40 lumen Lumens Factory E1a from my cross hair E1 replaces a 100 lumen Tana SingLED that was in the aviatEr.
    Above that is my favorite flashlight, ever. Bright Star made 2c generic with a Tung Sol PR-6


    The aviatEr reassembled
    Incan E-head and scout tailcap. Oh and that's a Gala apple.
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    to hard core for me i dont miss incans
    LED's have gotten too bright in our stuff. Many nights I'm awakened by my modem lights blinking.had help with my sig thank you for your help.

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    Default Re: Challenge Week #1: Incandescent Only! (2021 edition)

    Quote Originally Posted by raggie33 View Post
    to hard core for me i dont miss incans
    If it was easy, it wouldnít be a Challenge...

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    Hmmm...
    Mag Soli, e2e, 6p w/p91, 2c ROP low.
    Should work out okay. 😁
    Iím in.
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    I only have one incan....Mag 2D. It will have to do.

    Edit:
    Actually...I do have that 3D I found...just have to swap the LED drop in back to incan...now I have 2 to choose from.

    I'll give it a whirl.
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    I'm in. Even though I've been around for awhile, I haven't done this kind of challenge week before. I have enough led lights that I don't use my Surefire incans very often. So, primary light will be a Surefire E2x with 2x16340, a Lumens Factory EO E2R bulb, and a Lightsaver miser tailcap/switch.

    Backup will be a"lego" with a Surefire E2E-HA bezel with a Fivemega T1.5 bi-pin base adapter holding a TL-3 bulb, a Rothrandir "18mm split body" with 2x18350, and a lightsaver miser tailcap.

    The lightsaver miser tailcaps almost makes it feel like cheating already.

    I'm feeling a little insecure putting my Ra clicky aside for a week, so I've also got a C2 on a 16650 sitting on my desk with a no-name 3.7v D26 inside.
    I do have to say I'm looking forward to seeing what it's like to be on incan for a week.

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    I feel like Iím cheating on this one because I use multiple Incan every week of my life. It would be easy to eliminate a few LED.
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    Agreed! We can argue about tint shift and PWM till the cows come home but for me the real fun had always been talking about USING lights. How do they work, feel in the hand, how are the UI to navigate, are they fun to use, did they do their job?? Thatís the meat and potatoes of the hobby, and why I love these kinds of threads. Itís about the love of the game and the stories that come with it.

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    Well said nbp! I'm hoping there might be some interesting stories when using some of these high-powered incans around other non-flashaholic people.

    Most people are used to LED lighting now, so it'd be funny to blow someone's mind when they realize "holy cow that's an old incandescent light?!"

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    i forgot i use incans for my pets 160 watts!
    LED's have gotten too bright in our stuff. Many nights I'm awakened by my modem lights blinking.had help with my sig thank you for your help.

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    Yesterday was National Law Enforcement Day so I plucked an old cop light off the shelf and fired it up. A 4D light built in the old Kel-Lite factory right after Streamlight bought them. It was made some time around 1983 or so. It still has the original bulb made by Phillips.

    Up to that point I had not realized the clicky is a reverse one. In other words to signal with the light you click it on then you can use it for signaling. Kinda surprised me that I had never noticed that before.

    I also fired up the once very popular Maglite 3D with a bi-pin xenon bulb. It's hard to imagine in 2021 how those were standard flashlights across the world now that a keychain sized light can put out about the same amount of light. I didn't use either beyond beaming across a room to dial in the hot spot because I did not go out doors after the sun went down. Yet it was nice to reminisce for a bit. Back when the Streamlight was made I was the kind of kid who at times ended up on the down stream end of the beam "halt in the name of the law"ÖÖ so on national law enforcement day I sent out an apology prayer for my part in any hyjinx that took place resulting in a foot chase by my city's men in blue. It was mostly harmless pranks by bored teenagers that never resulted in saying "please mr officer take me to jail, just don't tell my parents" lol
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    Iím in. Should be easy enough. Iím gonna set aside a 6P for around-the-house illumination and a Malkoff MDC with a E-series head and bulb from LF as my EDC. I have been EDCing the Malkoff as my only light for a while now anyway, so itís not really much of a challenge. The challenge will be mainly to not play around with other lights by accident.

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    Iím IN!
    First thing is to do what Mr.Fixer said, take out Solitaire



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    Iím in as well.. 2aa streamlights around the house.. E2e and 6P to work. 2x26650 body with M4 head and MN15 for bumps in the night and the M6 with 2x18650 as well
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    I started my challenge after sundown today. I'll stop at sundown this coming Saturday (Lord willing). Mrs Fixer and I took a stroll around the block and I used my handy dandy 1st generation 2C Kel-Lite fueled by 18500 LifePo4 cells firing a 4 cell Maglite PR xenon bulb through an ultra clear plastic lens from flashlight lens dot com. In my jacket pocket for backup was a pretty nice stock E2 with a clicky I rarely use.


    The primary and backup
    The Kel-Lite throws out a pencil beam like a much larger light. Ironically Mrs Fixers LED light was giving her some grief so I handed her the E2 to use until we got home. She was impressed how bright that little light is with the factory bulb. She remarked how it's no wonder why folks were so excited about lights PK designed back in the day.


    Before:
    Typical light pollution swallows up lumens


    The spiced up Kel-Lite beam. The house is about 400' away.
    Who'da thunk a measley little 2C incan could do all that using a stock parts by just doubling the volts and using an easy to come by xenon bulb.
    Last edited by bykfixer; 01-10-2021 at 07:06 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    .................. In my jacket pocket for backup was a pretty nice stock E2 with a clicky I rarely use.

    ...................... Ironically Mrs Fixers LED light was giving her some grief so I handed her the E2 to use until we got home. She was impressed how bright that little light is with the factory bulb. She remarked how it's no wonder why folks were so excited about lights PK designed back in the day.

    .....................
    Now THAT'S a role-reversal right there!! How d'you like that, incan fans? LED light craps out and it's an incan to the rescue!!


    (What was the LED light by the way; just curious, if you're willing to share)

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    Welcome aboard the fun ride BBÖÖ


    Quote Originally Posted by Stress_Test View Post
    Now THAT'S a role-reversal right there!! How d'you like that, incan fans? LED light craps out and it's an incan to the rescue!!


    (What was the LED light by the way; just curious, if you're willing to share)
    I gave Mrs Fixer an ML5OLX for Christmas. It arrived with the entire tailcap anodized instead of having the two locations it was supposed to be bare. I pulled out my Dremel that night and scuffed away the coating. But tonight it was acting weird. It would start on it's medium setting then go to about 90% high and suddenly to eco like the batteries were low but they were brand new batteries. Now it would put out enough light for her but I was not happy with the erratic behavior and handed her the E2.

    The threads on the Maglite were grinding like they had sand in them so I figured perhaps I had fouled them with coating when using the Dremel. Tonight was the lights maiden voyage. After we returned home a gentle clean with a damp tooth brush and then some bril-cream added to the threads (as in "a little dab'l do ya" of silicone grease), reassemble and hand it to Mrs Fixer.
    Now now now, I cannot test it until next week. So she fired through settings a few times and it was running like normal.

    I've emailed Maglite asking them for another tailcap.

    I'd say you're ok novice. We're talking flashlights here. Hell if we can't have our homes lit by other than incan I'm out too. I have curly fry bulbs galore.
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    Started tonight with an old ranger 2D. Walked my driveway to look for random fedex packages. (Yes I found one, they are pitiful) got my town trash can to put my trash in out of my transfer cans. Checked a few traps I have out and came back home. My biggest fear is that I will use one of the various E01 or C01 I have scattered around the house or for work.

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    Default Oh, Crikey, have I failed already?

    I'm pretty sure I can do the handheld lights, and I don't think I will need the led headlamp.
    I was realizing tonight that I use my desk lamp a lot, and it uses a compact fluorescent bulb. I think that almost all of the wallswitch-activated lights in the house are some version of fluorescent. I've already checked two places, and it can be difficult to even find incan bulbs, and I am not going to the local Walmart in these pandemic days. Having to go to Costco recently was scary enough.

    Am I busted?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bykfixer View Post
    .......

    I'd say you're ok novice. We're talking flashlights here. Hell if we can't have our homes lit by other than incan I'm out too. I have curly fry bulbs galore.
    Quote Originally Posted by novice View Post
    I'm pretty sure I can do the handheld lights, and I don't think I will need the led headlamp.
    I was realizing tonight that I use my desk lamp a lot, and it uses a compact fluorescent bulb. I think that almost all of the wallswitch-activated lights in the house are some version of fluorescent. I've already checked two places, and it can be difficult to even find incan bulbs, and I am not going to the local Walmart in these pandemic days. Having to go to Costco recently was scary enough.

    Am I busted?
    Whoa now, challenges are just flashlights only, not everything else; we're not that hardcore!

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    A few of my go-to choices when I want to mess with incans. Maglite 4-C bi-pin version, with 4 AA in adapters and a lightly sanded stock lens for diffusion. Black SolarForce with a P60, and stainless steel SolarForce with a Lumens Factory EO-4, both running 18650 cells.

    Gonna dig up one or two more, I think, for work this week.


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    Is an A2 considered cheating for this first week? My M4 is tough to pocket carry...

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    Iím starting today. The worst part for me is going to be lacking modes. I will miss my sublumen lights for kicking around late at night. My options for modes this week will be 90/700. Lol

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    I got out my 2xAA maglite clone as well because 6W and 4.5W are a bit too much light for some things. it Has made me start wanting to buy more incans again though! in fact I`m waiting on an offer for a brand new 1960`s Pifco light as a I type. LOL

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    Iíll be impressed when somebody busts out the ol Tom Thumb for a full day. Iíve been hunting the right one for a few years.
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    I've never carried my A2 - I AM LOVING IT!

    BUT I am using primaries (I know I can use a skinny lipo in it). What currently available rechargeable incan setups are y'all using? I looked at a LF E1P pineapple setup but it's a bit of a stretch at around $150 for the parts I picked out. I like the size though.

    Some future challenges maybe?
    Use only dollar store lights w/dollar store batteries
    Use any light but give it away at the end of the week
    Only headlamps
    Only keychain lights
    Only lights you "rescued" from a thrift store and refurbished

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    I will state from the outset that I will Not use primaries for any of these challenges, and will gladly forfeit rather than poison the planet further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katherine Alicia View Post
    I will state from the outset that I will Not use primaries for any of these challenges, and will gladly forfeit rather than poison the planet further.

    I am in agreement with you there, regarding incans, although I will consider primariies for long-lasting leds. Generally, my main criteria for accumulating some Surefire/other brands of incandescent bulbs and lamp assemblies is whether or not I have a convenient configuration for running them on rechargeable cells. I don't have an LiFePo4(?) charger. Fivemega's parts have helped a lot. P90s can run on anything from 2x16340 to 2x26650. I have acquired some P60s and P61s only because I have an FM 3xAA body to C head (although I could run them on 1x Li-Ion). If I had convenient rechargeable options for the Mn01, -02, and -03, I probably would have collected some of those, too.
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