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    You all ever notice how it seems like MOST Flashlight Reviewers on YouTube are just AWFUL? Of course there are a handful of standout great ones but it seems like the majority are just terrible. It's like they didn't bother to do any research whatsoever. They use the terminology wrong....they are vague and just Not Helpful. And the most infuriating part is it seems like in many cases the production values and over all slickness of the presentation is inversely proportionate to the useful information given!

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    Marshall on Going Gear was the best and all of my flashlights came from them. Unfortunately he is no longer with us.......very sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebHobbit View Post
    You all ever notice how it seems like MOST Flashlight Reviewers on YouTube are just AWFUL? Of course there are a handful of standout great ones but it seems like the majority are just terrible. It's like they didn't bother to do any research whatsoever. They use the terminology wrong....they are vague and just Not Helpful. And the most infuriating part is it seems like in many cases the production values and over all slickness of the presentation is inversely proportionate to the useful information given!

    Outside of Advanced Knife Bro's videos I agree with you completely and why I have pretty well given up on watching reviews. I primarily only buy Fenix anymore so usually don't care about a beforehand review as I can tell what it'll be like from their specs. If I do watch a video it's only to see if there are beamshots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Enzo View Post
    Marshall on Going Gear was the best and all of my flashlights came from them. Unfortunately he is no longer with us.......very sad.
    Marshall had some really good videos for sure, especially if you wanted a thorough review without being overly technically. I would have liked to have seen his thoughts on some of these new pocket rockers like the D4 series, the FW3A, etc.

    Also the reviewer who set the bar for all other reviewers is definitely Selfbuilt but unfortunately he no longer does reviews.
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    I think Matt Smith's reviews are about as good as it gets:

    https://www.youtube.com/user/ForgivenMatt

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    I will check that out

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebHobbit View Post
    You all ever notice how it seems like MOST Flashlight Reviewers on YouTube are just AWFUL? Of course there are a handful of standout great ones but it seems like the majority are just terrible. It's like they didn't bother to do any research whatsoever. They use the terminology wrong....they are vague and just Not Helpful. And the most infuriating part is it seems like in many cases the production values and over all slickness of the presentation is inversely proportionate to the useful information given!
    I know, right? I mean, some of them even call it a "torch", despite it clearly saying 'FLASHLIGHT' on the box. Talk about getting your terminology mixed up, eh!

    On a serious note, though - Awful in what way?
    It would firstly depend what you're looking to get from the review, and whether you've picked a reviewer whose target audience includes people like you.
    It would secondly depend what light is being reviewed, and whether that is also marketed toward people like you.

    As an example, the Nitecore TM10K. It has "10,000 Lumens!" written on the side, including an exclamation mark!
    Is that really the sort of thing that would wow and impress you, do you think.... or is it more for the sort of people who are browsing Tacticool.com or a camping shop, looking for "a powerful torch"?
    Would you therefore expect to see that on a channel that primarily deals with custom Anduril lights that cost more than my car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasky View Post
    I know, right? I mean, some of them even call it a "torch", despite it clearly saying 'FLASHLIGHT' on the box. Talk about getting your terminology mixed up, eh!

    On a serious note, though - Awful in what way?
    It would firstly depend what you're looking to get from the review, and whether you've picked a reviewer whose target audience includes people like you.
    It would secondly depend what light is being reviewed, and whether that is also marketed toward people like you.

    As an example, the Nitecore TM10K. It has "10,000 Lumens!" written on the side, including an exclamation mark!
    Is that really the sort of thing that would wow and impress you, do you think.... or is it more for the sort of people who are browsing Tacticool.com or a camping shop, looking for "a powerful torch"?
    Would you therefore expect to see that on a channel that primarily deals with custom Anduril lights that cost more than my car?
    Why?

    Why must there be any conditions on what is considered a "Good review" of anything, flashlights just being what we like here? I have come across those "awful" reviews and yes, they truly were awful because they provided almost zero information other than "here is light, see it is bright when shined into camera lens. I don't like it because it doesn't do these other things that I think it should do even though it clearly says exactly what it does."

    Is there a target audience for that?
    The "It has a great UI!" but then doesn't even bother to show what it is, I have seen too often. Beamshots against a white wall in the dark, two feet away are not things I am interested in but there are people who are interested in those things and that is okay. But using a camera poorly and not even understanding the terminology within the interest of the community...well...you shouldn't expect much. Maybe this will just motivate me to do my own videos. Who knows ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebHobbit View Post
    You all ever notice how it seems like MOST Flashlight Reviewers on YouTube are just AWFUL? Of course there are a handful of standout great ones but it seems like the majority are just terrible. It's like they didn't bother to do any research whatsoever. They use the terminology wrong....they are vague and just Not Helpful. And the most infuriating part is it seems like in many cases the production values and over all slickness of the presentation is inversely proportionate to the useful information given!
    I say start up your own review page. See how well you do. It’s an easy change. Make videos the way you want them made and see what kind of reception you get. May be a fun hobby for ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lightfooted View Post
    Why must there be any conditions on what is considered a "Good review" of anything, flashlights just being what we like here?
    Because if it achieves the aims of the reviewer and meets the expectations of their audience, then it's good. That's just how it goes.
    It might not suit your needs, but you're probably not their target audience any more than you are for a pipeline inspection lecture, or for a kid's cartoon.

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    Is there a target audience for that?
    If the video has any likes, then yes there is.

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    But using a camera poorly and not even understanding the terminology within the interest of the community...well...you shouldn't expect much.
    Presumably every car reviewer who is not themselves an automotive design engineer, and thus not part of that 'community' with all the exacting technical terminology to hand, is equally invalid, then?
    Did you ever consider that these reviewers are not actually part of 'the community' as you define it, so don't feel the need to do their things the way you want them to?

    Quote Originally Posted by lightfooted View Post
    Maybe this will just motivate me to do my own videos. Who knows ...
    You should.
    Lead by example, show them how it's done... or rather just target the audience that they don't. Fill the gap, instead of getting elitist about something they clearly have no interest in.

    Worth noting that high end camera kit is not cheap, but I've seen plenty of reviewers start using a mobile phone and eventually build themselves up to professional studios with very high quality presentations.
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    I dunno it seems like it would be easier to point to an example of the kind of info I'd like to see in reviews easier than calling out all the ones I don't like. For the record as someone mentioned earlier the stuff by Advanced Knife Bro is a great example of a really good informative (and amusing) way to do a video review of a flashlight. I guess some of these YT people trigger some of my pet peeves like calling ALL lights "tactical lights".....of course some manufacturer's do this too. The term is over used anymore almost to the point of it being meaningless. A baseline for a light being "tactical" would at lease mean it has a rear mounted switch that is capable of momentary on. Not that I require a tactical light for all my needs. I carry a ZebraLight as EDC and it is decidedly NOT tactical.

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    Charles is the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebHobbit View Post
    I guess some of these YT people trigger some of my pet peeves like calling ALL lights "tactical lights".....of course some manufacturer's do this too. The term is over used anymore almost to the point of it being meaningless. A baseline for a light being "tactical" would at lease mean it has a rear mounted switch that is capable of momentary on. Not that I require a tactical light for all my needs. I carry a ZebraLight as EDC and it is decidedly NOT tactical.
    It was meaningless the moment it was introduced. It's purely for marketing, as per other threads already exploring this. If it were otherwise, the cheap plastic 3xAAA tailswitched thing I got given at work would be a 'tactical' torch... and the hi-viz colour it comes in immediately contradicts such an idea.

    But again, what other people choose to do, what they look for in a light (and thus focus on in their review) and how they choose (or are limited) to present that review is just their thing. That doesn't make it bad... As is, of all the fancy, detailed, professional reviewers who cover all the techie things about the Lumintop Tool AA 2.0 that you would look for, the only one that actually covered the details I wanted to know was actually some Aussie bloke shooting on his phone!

    If it's not what you were looking for, just find someone else or do your own.
    It's like anything - There will be surface users, there will be geeks, enthusiasts and ultra-über-techie-detail-a-holics. If we all wanted the same things in life, this would be the Maglite Forum!!
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    If I want to be entertained I may watch a youtube video. If I want knowledge I read reviews.

    To me the only value of a youtube video is those how to kind where actually seeing something done by someone is more informative than written instructions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoulas View Post
    Charles is the best.
    If you’re talking about CharlesBridgetec, I think what impresses me most is that he’s effectively made the same video for 3+ years.
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    Hah I agree the0dore3524

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    Matt is a very entertaining reviewer these days. Marshall and Selfbuilt were my favorite. There are other reviewers who are ok but I subscribe to Matt. One thing that I don’t like is reviewers who ask you to like and subscribe before the review begins. That’s like asking for a tip first thing. No class.
    I’ve noticed lately when a light gets my attention and I try to find a review, all the ones I find are non English.
    Less and less English speaking reviewers out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Minescence View Post
    One thing that I don’t like is reviewers who ask you to like and subscribe before the review begins. That’s like asking for a tip first thing. No class.
    That's because so many people don't watch to the end and generally just skip through the video. Happens in review vids of all things. It's like having a meal, but then ordering a dessert and then skipping out the door the instant your waiter's back is turned.
    I guess class and courtesy go both ways...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebHobbit View Post
    You all ever notice how it seems like MOST Flashlight Reviewers on YouTube are just AWFUL? Of course there are a handful of standout great ones but it seems like the majority are just terrible. It's like they didn't bother to do any research whatsoever. They use the terminology wrong....they are vague and just Not Helpful. And the most infuriating part is it seems like in many cases the production values and over all slickness of the presentation is inversely proportionate to the useful information given!
    Maybe you should do some reviews and let others critique them then?
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    I find that 75 percent of them are free reviews ( in exchange for the lights).

    Nothing beats a, I just spent my money, and this is the best thing since sliced bread review.

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    Yes, CharlesBridgetec, he is no nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AstroTurf View Post
    I find that 75 percent of them are free reviews ( in exchange for the lights).
    Nothing beats a, I just spent my money, and this is the best thing since sliced bread review.
    I'd argue that those who spent their own money are sometimes just as biassed as those being plied with free gifts, as they want affirmation that they didn't just drop £3-400 on a piece of [censored] custom light that doesn't actually blast sunshine out of its backside like they hoped it would. It's part of the reason why people often recommend things they themselves have, over others which may be more suitable for the person that's asking.
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    Some are better than others. The only thing that really bothers me is when someone does a review and says something incorrect because they are “reviewing” an item they haven’t even bothered to familiarize themselves with (or bothered to read the owners manual). Just can’t figure out why someone would talk about something without taking a moment to understand it’s features or how it works.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dmattaponi View Post
    Some are better than others. The only thing that really bothers me is when someone does a review and says something incorrect because they are “reviewing” an item they haven’t even bothered to familiarize themselves with (or bothered to read the owners manual). Just can’t figure out why someone would talk about something without taking a moment to understand it’s features or how it works.
    Because they're now doing a job and they're in it for the money. They're not here to cater for your enthusiast indulgences. Either it got sent and they didn't have time to fully read up, or they weren't that interested in this particular freebie and are just churning through because YouTuber is now a career path and they need the views to get the ad revenue.
    Disregard channel and move on.

    Reading what you wrote, I'm reminded of R. Lee Ermey showing off a BAR compared to a Bren, and being shocked at seeing a former US Marine using a signature US military weapon very incorrectly. He should most definitely have been familiar with that, so presumably it was all part of 'the show' on that episode....
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    no arguement from me...

    "Nothing beats a, I just spent my money, and this is the best thing since sliced bread review."

    Quote Originally Posted by Tasky View Post
    I'd argue that those who spent their own money are sometimes just as biassed as those being plied with free gifts, as they want affirmation that they didn't just drop £3-400 on a piece of [censored] custom light that doesn't actually blast sunshine out of its backside like they hoped it would. It's part of the reason why people often recommend things they themselves have, over others which may be more suitable for the person that's asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasky View Post
    Because they're now doing a job and they're in it for the money. They're not here to cater for your enthusiast indulgences. Either it got sent and they didn't have time to fully read up, or they weren't that interested in this particular freebie and are just churning through because YouTuber is now a career path and they need the views to get the ad revenue.
    Disregard channel and move on.

    Reading what you wrote, I'm reminded of R. Lee Ermey showing off a BAR compared to a Bren, and being shocked at seeing a former US Marine using a signature US military weapon very incorrectly. He should most definitely have been familiar with that, so presumably it was all part of 'the show' on that episode....
    I’d agree people are trying to make it a “job”, but then you’d think they would want/need to do a good job to get and keep viewers.


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    I like Matt Smith, and the Flashaholic guy. They also have good discount codes periodically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmattaponi View Post
    I’d agree people are trying to make it a “job”, but then you’d think they would want/need to do a good job to get and keep viewers.
    That's the easy part.
    As in the review style you mentioned - You might know they're talking out their backside, or have not done their research properly, but they're talking enough sense to show they know more than most of the people watching their video... and those will be their repeat viewers, at least until they come here and learn enough to move on, but there will always be more to keep them in place.
    Even the well-known experts who really do know pretty much* everything still make mistakes or miss stuff out. The spit-hot ones will issue corrections, though.

    End of the day, just use your noggin. Most reviews give enough info for me to extrapolate and get an idea of whether I'll like a light or not... even the ones where it's a kid on a shaky iPhone camera in his bedroom, "umming" and "like, err, like-ing" his way through basically just regurgitating the enclosed product manual.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tasky View Post
    That's the easy part.
    As in the review style you mentioned - You might know they're talking out their backside, or have not done their research properly, but they're talking enough sense to show they know more than most of the people watching their video... and those will be their repeat viewers, at least until they come here and learn enough to move on, but there will always be more to keep them in place...
    I think this about sums it up.


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    There used to be a fellow on youtube that reviewed different kinds of maglights. He would first be indoors and then he would go outside and even shine them across a river and you could really see what they could do with their strenghts and shortcomings. I tried to look for him one time and then couldn't find him. I don't remember the name of his youtube page.

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    he only real time I`ll use YT in relation to flashlights is for Comparision shots with a light I already own, it tends to give a better idea of what you`ll be getting. beyond that I`ll look it up and here and read about it or ask someone.

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