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    Party Challenge Week #5: Do the Twist!!

    So, after a hiatus, let's jump back into another Challenge!

    What is it now you ask? This!



    That's right, you can only use whatever combination of lights that fit within the area of a CD!! Just kidding. You'll notice that these are all "Twisty" lights, and that's the theme for this week!

    For anyone who wasn't aware, a "twisty" light refers to any light that is turned on and off by tightening or loosening the head (typically), and don't have an actual switching mechanism. Some lights blur the line by having the ability to be used both ways; SureFire being a common example.

    For the purpose of this Challenge, we'll go with the purist (purest??) form of twisty, one that has no switch and is only activated by screwing the separate parts of the light together, like so:



    So, why the twisty? They have the advantage of simplicity, and thus reliability, because there's no mechanical switch to wear out, break, etc. Barring an outright failure of the circuit driver, or the LED itself, there's just not much to go wrong. Also, twisty lights tend to be smaller because they don't require any extra length to accommodate a switch mechanism. The design lends itself well to the AAA and AA category, and these lights are typically so small they can still be carried in almost any situation regardless of dress. I bet many CPF'ers carry a small twisty somewhere on their person, not for everyday use, but a robust last-ditch backup (I do, anyway... a titanium Quark Preon, on a neck lanyard under my shirt when I go anywhere).

    Disadvantages? Well, the head of the light has to be unscrewed enough that it won't accidentally activate while riding in a pocket, but not unscrewed so far that it risks working it's way off completely. Also, on a lot of twisties, by the time the head is unscrewed one full turn, it's already starting to expose the o-ring, so water sealing becomes compromised. Lastly, twisties can be difficult to operate one-handed, and sometimes accidental mode skipping becomes an issue, depending on how much slop is in the threads.


    So, for this week, the challenge is to use only the twisty style lights. An ode to simplicity, if you will, in a world overrun by complicated electronic gadgets and doo-dads.

    The challenge "rules" can be found in the first post of this thread here:

    Link to the Rules list from Challenge#1


    That's it! Have fun!

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    Ohohoho, nice! I bet this TURN of events is gonna throw some participants for a LOOP

    However, I'm tapping out of this one. I've in practice completed this one back in week #2 when I only used a Lumintop EDC01, and while that week was fun, I'm not keen on re-running a challenge.

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    Default Re: Challenge Week #5: Do the Twist!!

    I really wanted to use my Surefire twisty as well, not to worry though, my C01S is good little light and plenty bright enough for most needs, single hand use and small enough to take anywhere.

    I`m in!

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    In! I'll have a poke around my collection and see what options I have. Should be fun.

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    I guess Im out this week. All the twisty's I own are hybrids and don't qualify.

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    I知 in with a Mini Mag and a Titan plus. Will be interesting to run these two as primary lights for a change. The Titan should be plenty bright enough for pretty much everything however, so I知 not too worried.
    Really hoped I could cheat and use a 6P or M6 for this challenge when I first read the title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olumin View Post
    I知 in with a Mini Mag and a Titan plus. Will be interesting to run these two as primary lights for a change. The Titan should be plenty bright enough for pretty much everything however, so I知 not too worried.
    Really hoped I could cheat and use a 6P or M6 for this challenge when I first read the title.

    yeah, I was hoping to use my 6P or M6 too, thanks for the Minimag idea though I`d totally forgotten about those!

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    Time to rehab this little 1aa map reader from the second war to end all wars.

    Totally silent, early twisty.
    The plastic cap has a wire that touches the #112 bulb, passes through the cap and touches the light when the cap is fastened down.


    The inside of the cap.


    Where it touches.
    The inside of the light is really dirty but at one point I did have it working. Another bath inside with tarn-x and a spring cleanup should get it going again.


    My night light will be the so-called "lipstick" light that also uses a 1aa battery and 110/112 bulb. The twisty switch is at the rear. It's actually a twisty that clicks. Twist it counter clockwise to activate. A click locks it either on or off. It's infinite, in that you don't twist one way for on, the opposite for off but just twist counter clockwise every time. I got it off eBay back when I was building a Tom Thumb flashlight collection.


    It puts out about as much light as an incan Maglite solitaire but the beam is pre-focused to spot every time.
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    This one is easy for me! I've gone weeks at a time before using only my keychain light. Formally a E05, currently a Ti3 V2.
    Does the Maglight 2C ML25LT count? I don't see why not. It's my throwy-est twisty at 172 lm, although I have a Maratac 1C 2 mode that I think is brighter if you use the 4xAAA holder. I usually use a single eneloop AA.

    It's not true there is nothing to wear out, the circuit board traces can wear off from the twisting action and cause connection issues. The Fenix E05 has a better design with copper contact pads not just circuit board trace and has been bombproof for 6 years. I've also had two Peaks fail, a CMG infinity fail, and a 4-7s mini that required constant cleaning to work properly. I have had more twistys fail than clickys. If a clicky fails you can often just do the usually cleaning and replace the switch. The rubber boots on a clicky are the real weak point as they seem to tear/ fall apart.
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    I'll be using an ML25 for my "strong" light this week Cave. It's the brightest twisty I own.

    Now in addition top to bottom

    - A Rayovac Indestructable 1aaa twisty head
    - An Elzetta G-EDC AA twisty head
    - A Coast G9 twister tail
    - A triple a minimag spectrum warm
    - A polished alluminum Maglite ML25 gen 2 with borofloat lens
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    I have 3 contestants: Thrunite TiS, Sorfirn C01, Fenix E01. I will reveal the most used at the conclusion of this week's challenge.

    Thanks for a new game.
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    The hard part for me might be choosing which lights to use.
    And I can use my 4sevens ALR2 with headlamp kit.
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    I'm game..I'll be using the Mag-lite
    solitaire
    Mini-mag 2-AA
    ML 25
    Being that these are the only twisty's I own

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    I'm in. Bykfixer- I like that WWII Map Reader. A lot. Any more info on it? I'll be using a Sofirn C01S HCRI, and this light that is usually relegated to indoor night time use. Laulima Hoku.

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    Here's my lineup for the week! L to R:

    1. Prometheus Beta QR. I think this has a Nichia emitter (it was a gift so I'm not sure of the specs)
    2. Lumintop Tool AAA with Thrunite Ti5 guts and XP-L HI 2700k
    3. Thrunite Ti3 V2 Cool White
    4. Thrunite TiS with green XP-E2
    5. Olight i3UV EOS
    6. Homemade little twisty with Yuji 5mm LED.

    Should be a fun week!




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    Scout, I never did find any details about the little map reader. Just that it was from about the time when WW2 was going and it was speculated that it was used for wartime activities. Back when I was researching, everybody I'd ask about it would say in effect "I've heard of something like that but never saw one before".
    I probably bought it at eBay thinking it was a Tom Thumb light.
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    Cool. 👍🏻 Thanks for the info. I've been geeking on old AA lights recently.
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    The brightest vintage 1aa light I found is a lensless Rayovac Sportsman from the 1960's but it doesn't qualify for this one being it uses a slider to operate. It uses an E10 bulb #112. Radio Shack made some with krypton gas that can probably be found at eBay but mine is using a Holland made Norelco because those have the best beam I have found.

    I'm really stoked to have a reason to use some of my favorite twisty's. One of my two EDC lights has been the twisty aaa by PK so using that won't even be cheating.
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    I took the Maglight 2C (single mode) and Maratac 1C out tonight for a walk around the neighborhood and used the Maratac first and thought the beam was a bit too spoty and could use some DC-Fix diffuser and then I switched to the Maglight 2C and and that was way way too spoty and bright and ringy at the edges, de-focusing did not help. I've never used it to walk around before. I found the best way to use the Mag was to not even shine the spot at the ground, just point it at the horizon and walk using the spill. The cars coming my way were annoyed and slowed way down though, so I switched back to the Maratac which now seemed floody in comparison. Then finished up with the Keychain light an AAA ThruNite Ti3v2 on Med and Max, which was by far the best to walk with and the Neutral light was more pleasant to the eyes.

    I just realized I have a magnetic tail cap for the Lumitop Tool AA that will turn it into a twisty.
    Respectable performance on an AA, but really shines on a 14500. So that may be the main go to light outdoors.
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    3.7 / 28 / 140 / 270 lumens

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    16 / 85 / 360 / 650 lumens
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    Good call on the twisty tailcap for the Tool...
    I took the magnet out of mine, it was annoying as hell in my pocket.
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    I think I値l remove the momentary switch from my Logan...
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    Ahh, the other thing to note is that it was cold and I was wearing gloves, and the while the Twisty action was a two handed affair, it was no problem and really actually nice on the Maglight with that big bezel to grab onto. Trying to use gloves with a Zebralight, HDS flat button, shrouded Quark, etc is a pain and often ends up being a two handed affair anyway.
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    I'm in. Beta Ti or Sapphire. For all around use, the Beta.

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    I just reorganized my flashlight-case when I accidentally tapped the rear switch on one of my Surefires while shifting it around. Blinked-ON in momentary for a split second. Damn. I guess that counts as a fail? Not giving up because of that tho.

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    My view would be if you grabbed with intent on using it, then used itguilty.
    Accidents happen.
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    Does intent still matter in the legal, court-of-law sense?

    Dunno, and I have no desire to find out first hand.

    But for us, remember per the "rules" you're not really "out" or anything so carry on if you want and we'll just make a few jokes at your expense!

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    So far the Hoku has been used for pretty much everything, midnight snack to dog walking to finding things in the basement's recesses. 10440 battery life is an issue on the top two levels as expected, and as with all multi-mode twisties in my experience there is the occasional mode skip. So far so good though.
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    For some reason fate seems to dictate that during some of these challenges my flashlight uses are way more or way less. So far this week, way less. As in since Sunday at sunset none so far. Not even my usual 2am nature call and I even drank an extra glass of water before retiring last evening. I have a C01 (sophia) and G-Line aa ready to go but so far both got to sleep all night.
    I have a twisty on my coffee table setting idle and so far my ML25 has been idle. I started a new project at work so much of my brain RAM is being used for that. So perhaps by dinner time it wants to idle, which means no tinkering. And I cleaned my glasses so that might be why I can read without aid of a flashlight.

    You know it's time to clean them when you put them on and think to yourself "I could see better without them".
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    I`v been quite surprised by how warm the C01S gets after a few mins on High, not something I expected from a AAA light, even the eneloop gets warm, though I`m not sure if that`s heating from the battery itself or indirectly from the casing because of the LED. I doubt it`s damaging but I wouldn`t like to leave it on for more than 5 mins at a time with an alkaleak in it!

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    Used the C01 (sophia) last night for 2am nature call, because I have a trit in it so it's easy to find. Nice tint and broad beam, but really too bright for such duties. Tried to use my thumb to cover up the beam, but that didn't work to well as the blockage co-efficient was highly variable so basically it went from 0-7lm in random bursts.
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