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    Default \"Perfect Tri/Quad Sinks\" and little ol \"Minetrois\"

    Fellow Flashaholic, you guys have seens my terminial illness for lumens crave have been getting worst and worst. I used to be happy with a 20+ lumen MicroMag, then 80+ lumens "D-Pill", then 150+ lumens "FatMag", then 200+ lumens "Minetrois" and most recently the 300+ lumens "Quadamire". It seems like it an Moore's Law for flashaholism applies to me very very well.

    I received several version of the Tri-Star from various sources. They were all very well built but not quite 100% of what I was looking for. Either the HS was too thin, too complicated, or plainly just doesn't work with the best current available reflector for their size. A major problem for those who attempt to assemble was clustering the stars. They move around and you just can't get it perfectly centered.

    So here's my requirement/solution:
    + perfect auto centering of star & emitter.

    + more surface contact to improve heat transfer.
    + thicker plating to improve heat sinking.
    + reduce the cost so the everyday "modamag" can afford one.

    Introducing the first of in series of "Perfect Mag Sink" ....
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    . The "Perfect Tri Sink" (aka PTS). (2/14/05)
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    and the second in the series ...
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    . The "Perfect Quad Sink" (aka PQS). (02/22/(05)

    - Recessed pockets for perfect alignment of Tri-Star and Quad-Emitter.
    - Increase heat sink height for maximum heat transfer.
    - Protruding rear for optimal sink to MagD body.
    - Designed to accommodate IMS SO20XA reflector for optimal throw.
    o Micropores cooling for extreme apps (borrowed from semiconductor industry)




    === Pricing Schedule ===
    #1C. "Perfect Tri Sink" for SO20XA reflector in MagC - Sandwich Shop
    #1D. "Perfect Tri Sink" for SO20XA reflector in MagD - Sandwich Shop
    #1CO."Perfect Tri Sink" for Fraen or NX05 optics in MagC - $12.01
    #1DO."Perfect Tri Sink" for Fraen or NX05 optics in MagD - $11.98
    #2. Tri-Star Kit - $75
    ....includes 1x PTS, 3x Luxeon III TW0J Star, 3x IMS SO20XA reflector
    #3. Tri-Star Drop In Module - $80
    ....Prewired Kit with bi-pin connector
    #4. Tri-Star Complete Assembly - $120
    ....Prewired Kit with FatMan Driver connected modded switch
    #5. Tri-Star Shorten Mag2C TurnKey (aka "Minetrois") - $160
    ....Complete ready-to-run, just requires 3x CR123 or 2x Pilas 150s batteries.
    ....Availability pewter, purple, black.
    ....Dimmable available upon request
    #6. Tri-Star Shorten Mag1D TurnKey - $170
    ....Complete ready-to-run, just requires 4x NiMh or 2x 14500 Li-Ion batteries.
    ....Available in pewter, copper, and blue.
    ....Dimmable available upon request

    #11C. "Perfect Quad Sink" for SO20XA reflector in MagC - Sandwich Shop
    #11D. "Perfect Quad Sink" for SO20XA reflector in MagD - Sandwich Shop
    #12. Quad Kit - $95
    ....includes 1x PQS, 4x Luxeon III TW0J Star, 4x IMS SO20XA reflector
    #13. Quad Drop In Module - $105
    ....Prewired Kit with bi-pin connector

    #91. Modded Li-Ion Charger & 2x 14500 Li-Ion - $35
    ....Capable of chargin R123 or 14500 Li-Ion
    #92. 3x IMS SO20XA reflector - $12
    ....Only available with PTS|PQS

    * Please indicate which Mag host (C or D size) when ordering the Heat Sink.

    === Shipping and Delivery ===
    All pricing includes S/H for US
    International S/H please add $5
    Custom order please allow 5 add'l days for completion

    === Payments ===
    Cash PayPal: modamag_std[at]yahoo.com
    Credit Card PayPal (add 4%): modamag_cc[at]yahoo.com
    Please include your CPF handle and optic/reflector type in the PayPal note section.
    Make a post in this thread with your order list.

    * updated***
    - separate PTS for easier/clearer ordering process
    - add PQS to product line

    - add Build Tutorial

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    Are you going to make any for the 2C?

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    Very nice work and at most excellent price [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bowdown.gif[/img] any chance of the C sink or Quad I still haven't decided what to build yet.

    Later
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    Nice idea and work !

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    modamag :
    Will Tri-sink also fit carclo's triple holder (for 3x 6degree optics)? If yes, I'm interested to buy some.

    Warren

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    Modamag,

    Which host is a minimum ? Mag2D is okey?
    >> #4. Tri-Star Complete Assembly - $120
    >> Prewired Kit with FatMan Driver connected modded switch


    What light is made to host? Which batteries shall power this? Are 2x3AA-D included, or I could run 2xPila150s?
    >> #5. Tri-Star TurnKey unit - $160
    >> Complete ready-to-run, just requires batteries.


    Inquiring minds needs answer [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    These are available in "C" or "D" size, ready to ship.
    Just indicate which ones you want when PayPal.

    wallyrulz: "Are you going to make any for the 2C?"
    If you mean "C" size for Mag2C then yes.

    Sway: The Quad design is still being "tweaked". Normal Luxeon stars will not fit you have to file down the corner couple mils due to the break tab.

    Warren: I designed these so they don't need the triple optics holder (more cost) to an already expensive item. But it will work fine with Fraen or NX05. Actually the beam is even tighter due to reduced spacing between the Luxeons. See what I mean [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]



    akula88: "Which host is a minimum ? Mag2D is okey?"
    Any Mag host ... Mag1D-6D or Mag1C-6C will work.

    "What light is made to host? Which batteries shall power this? Are 2x3AA-D included, or I could run 2xPila150s?"
    First post updated with clarification for #5 & #6. And everything (3AA-D) is included in TK version.

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    [ QUOTE ]
    Warren: I designed these so they don't need the triple optics holder (more cost) to an already expensive item. But it will work fine with Fraen or NX05. Actually the beam is even tighter due to reduced spacing between the Luxeons. See what I mean [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


    [/ QUOTE ]

    How we fix the optic onto Luxeon Star ? Any glue ?

    Warren

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    I'll take two tri sinks. one for 2C m*g and one for 2D m*g.

    what's your PP?

    #1. "Perfect Tri Sink" slug - $11

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    PM sent,

    Trigger finger on [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/takeit.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img]
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    Later
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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img] for 1 C and 1 D PST.

    Thanks,
    ernest

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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img] Sent for 1 PTS and 3 TWOJ Stars [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/happy14.gif[/img]

    Later
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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    Nice work Modamag!!!!

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    I was working on a similar design for heat-sinking Luxeon stars(as opposed to emitters). My problem was setting the focus doesn't work well with stars when using reflectors. It didn't even occur to me to use an optic(OR three)Great Idea!! Are there any LARGE optics which would work with the mag head and a single heatsink mounted STAR? Hmmm...
    Yaesumofo

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    a-w-e-s-o-m-e! A centered and recessed heatsink so that SO20XAs will fit a MagD - I remember I had some problems with my Mag3X-1D due to a miscalculation of the height on my part.

    Well done modamag...

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    * All paypal logged, will be shipped within 48hrs.

    eTendue: No glue needed. There is approximately 15-20 lbs of clamping force from the lens.

    Kevin: You should change your sig to say "Life begins at 200 lumens" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

    hotbeam: Just following your lead. Since X-bins can't be found, this is the next best thing.

    yaesumofo: Large optics are available but at a $$$ price. I got some at work which are made out of saphire [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thinking.gif[/img] that is able to withstand "plasma".

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    Check your E-mail. Thanks.

    Warren

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    I'm interested on getting :
    >#5. Tri-Star Shorten Mag2C TurnKey (aka "Minetrois") - $160
    >....Complete ready-to-run, just requires 2x Pilas 150s batteries.
    >....Dimmable available upon request

    I'd like it to be dimmable. What host color is available?

    EMAIL sent!

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    [ QUOTE ]
    modamag said:
    Kevin: You should change your sig to say "Life begins at 200 lumens" [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]


    [/ QUOTE ]

    But my U2 will then file for divorce [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

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    PP sent.
    Yaesumofo

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    .................... [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img]
    count the number of dots.
    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/sssh.gif[/img]

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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img]
    thanks

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    VERY nice work Modamag !!!!
    These Tri lights are very nice, I made one with 3 LuxIIIs, and 3 17mm IMS reflectors.

    Great idea for solving the depth problem when using 20mm reflectors.

    I would however still recommend using a thermal epoxy or thermal grease under the stars,
    even with the 2 "flat" surfaces touching, heat trasfer will be MUCH MUCH better with a thermal compound.
    Just take the sink off you computer CPU, clean off the thermal grease and put it back on, if you dont beleave me [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
    ... no, dont do that, you wont have a CPU anymore [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    Nice work Jonathan! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] Keep one for me (MagC)! PP on the way. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
    They would even be more "perfect" if three holes were provided to screw them down. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Default Re: \"Perfect Tri Sink\"

    So even with this super thick aluminum slug, there is room for the 20mm in a D sized head? They don't look much recessed... I calculated a while back that a 1/8" thick HS in a D head w/emitters would work, but this thing looks like 1/2" thick!!

    yeasumofo: Perhaps a HS with an emitter pedistal raised high enough to put a 52mm carleco mirror lens in?

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    If I wanted to drive 3 L binned stars in a 2d body what would be my options? If possible I would like this to be a direct drive mod. Resistors would be fine though. Thanks all.

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    Clever indeed! And no pesty nylon screws to worry about! And who would have thought to mill the back to gain more room in a "D" cell app!

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    [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/paypal.gif[/img]. Very Nice!!!

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