Well here it is, I cannot keep it a secret any longer, yes there is a much smaller optic out there and I have it. The original optic is entirely too large for my tastes in modification and original designs, so I came up with this, an acrylic lense, which measures aprrox. 8mm diam. by 6.4 mm high, with about the same pattern as the nxo5 optic but more even beam. I will make different lenses for different flashlights i.e. spot, flood, adjustible. I'll try to download beam shots soon.