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    Of the three days of vacation I've had this year, work related calls have interrupted me four times. Yesterday I was serenaded by my singing cell phone at 4:50 AM due to an electrical storm setting off the fire alarms where I work, which is an hour away from my house. The City PD didn't use the correct first contact number and called me, instead.

    Inspite of repeated reminders nobody seems to remember that I'm on vacation. Does this happen to you?

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    Last time I went on vacation, I had a chat with a fellow traveller who was absolutely shocked to learn that I was leaving my cell phone at home for 10+ days. Believe me it felt GREAT. I didn't give a damn about what happened at work either - they can call my replacement, they can call the alternative contacts, it is THEIR g$# da%@ problem and that is why I detailed everything out before I left.

    I regard a cellphone as a necessary evil (ironic considering my day job involves communications), and I ditch it at every possible opportunity. There is something wonderful about being able to sit down knowing you will not be bothered. Life went on before cell phones, life will go on after them.

    If I did opt to carry a cellphone for emergency use, it would be fully charged and then switched off both to keep the lithium ion cells from discharging, and to prevent incoming calls. Or, I get even more sneaky - change out the SIM card for a prepaid card. One of the nice things about working communications is that you not only build bridges to communicate - you also know how to burn them.

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    thanks for reminding me, why i dont have one [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    i take the Home phone of the hook when i want "peace". so it wouldnt bother me in the least, to have "accidentally positivly on purpose" have the battery die, have it fall in the lake , or have it be stolen with my american express travelers checks [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
    UNLESS
    i was being paid a BIG HUGE salery, and they paid huge overtime, and its a paid vacation, or something along those lines, where the disruptions are relative to the perks.

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    I have also resisted getting a cell phone for the same reason. I get bothered enough as it is, and with a cell phone, I would never have a moments peace. Out of 4900 students at my college, I can say that I am one of only about 10 that don't own and carry a cell phone with them constantly.

    Someday, I will be forced to buy a cell I am sure, either by work or the phasing out of landlines. But until then I am enjoying the fact that I am hard to get a hold of, and still have time to myself.

    VidPro, good luck with your resistance to the cell movement as well.

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    I have also resisted getting a cell phone for the same reason. I get bothered enough as it is, and with a cell phone, I would never have a moments peace. Out of 4900 students at my college, I can say that I am one of only about 10 that don't own and carry a cell phone with them constantly.

    Someday, I will be forced to buy a cell I am sure, either by work or the phasing out of landlines. But until then I am enjoying the fact that I am hard to get a hold of, and still have time to myself

    VidPro, good luck with your resistance to the cell movement as well.

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    IMO folks who take their cell phones on vacation are just asking to be called by exactly who your on vacation from. If they just can't survive without your input while your on vacation it's time to renegotiate your salary package upwards by at least three times your current salary unless you already own the company and in that case you brought it on yourself.

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    I'm very fussy about who gets my cell phone number and have had to repeatedly tell the people at work that they can have my home landline number but I do not give out my cell number.

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    I have my own 1 man business, so I have to be in contact. The phone's on 24x7x365.

    Before I started my own business, I worked at the same place as my wife. She had inherited my old job, so I was her un-official back-up. One of us always had to be available. That really sucked sometimes. Her boss had the guts to say that we should not go on vacation together. We decided she was not really kidding.

    Some day I'll have a vacation without laptop, cell phone and wireless modem. Maybe.

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    Vacation? Being pretty much self employed for several years, a 3 day weekend is pushing it!

    I will be selective in ANSWERING it however....

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    I used to have a boss who'd conveniently forget when I was out for doctor's appointments, vacation days, etc. This individual would frequently call me while I was in the doctor's office, and the excuse was always "I forgot." On one occasion I finally said "would you like to say hello to the doctor?!"
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    Not wanting to be bothered when I'm out is exactly the reason I don't own/carry a cell phone. In fact, I found phone calls so disruptive (and also holding the phone aggravates my carpal tunnel syndrome) that I've ceased taking personal calls period. Now I just take the calls that are 100% necessary for my business and guess what? I suddenly seem to have a lot more time. I've often heard people complain that their days just seem to evaporate. Many of those same people spend literally hours each day on the phone, often having their time wasted by people who call them when they have nothing better to do, and much of the rest watching TV. Ditch the unnecessary phone calls and find how much more time you have each day. I got tired of being an unpaid counseler/technical advisor/psychiatrist to people which is why I decided to ditch the personal calls entirely. There was also the fact that calls seemed to come at the worst possible times. I'm often involved in tasks requiring a lot of concentration. Anything which interrupts me forces me in many cases to discard literally hours of work. The phone is about the worst culprit for such interruptions.

    Along the lines of having more time to myself I'm also spending less time on CPF and other forums I frequent. I've found that the online stuff can become too addictive and eat up hours of time each day.

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    I take mine I think there is 4 people that know my cell number none of them work with me two of them (wife and son)
    would be with me the other two know its not for general use. I carry one just in case something important comes up.
    Nothing work related is important while I am off so they do not have my number. I will post it here for you guys in case you need me. BR549 [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crackup.gif[/img]
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    I'm sure glad my wife had her phone with her when I managed to hit a rock with the rental car a few weeks ago. We were able to get a few miles closer to our hotel before the last of the transmission fluid drained and we could go no more. Still haven't heard a thing from Hertz. For a couple days I really enjoyed driving that '05 Malibu Maxx.

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    We take cell phones (turned off) when backpacking for pretty much the same reason people take avalanche beacons. In the event of an emergency the phone may not work so we don't depend on it, but if it did work the emergency could potentially become far less severe.

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    nobody calls my cellphone but my wife and my mom [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] So it's no problem to carry it. I just throw it in my pocket, it never rings unless it's something important or unless my wife and I are trying to coordinate meeting somewhere with the kids or something. it is convenient to use for outgoing calls, to make dinner reservations on the road and such.

    It is so very good to have when nobody calls you on it. So I blame not the cellphone, but those of you that actually give the number to more people than actually need it. My wife I want to reach me, my work, they can just wait till I get back to my desk [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    Very few people have my cell number. I can also set up call forwarding to and from home if I want (all part of packages so the cost is low for both). This way I have a reasonable expectation that the call might actually be worth answering, but I can be in touch most all of the time.

    I know how to turn it off and not just silence the ringer. When I am someplace I don't want to or cannot be interrupted, I just turn it off and let the system deal with it.

    I love Caller ID. Even if the cell phone is on, I can see if it is worth taking the call. Or not.

    I really love Voicemail. I figure that if they really have something important to say, it is worth leaving a message. If they don't, I figure it must be low priority.

    With a few options and an extra piece of equipment or two, I can be in contact most places. By using the way things are set up I can control the level of interruptions and even control the amount of control people would like to think they have.

    Even with all that and the way I use the phone I still find that only one out of maybe twenty calls are worth taking. Therefore, my two favorite phrases, even for stuff at home, have become "It can wait" and "Go ahead. You can deal with it."

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    I keep a cellular telephone turned on and with me anytime I leave the house. I don't receive too many calls on it; usually it's just my housemate who needs something (like a pack of stamps or a thing of milk) that neither of us remembered to write before I left.

    So the short story is: I don't mind having my cellular telephony with me and turned on at all.

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    The last person who raided the corporate database to extract my phone number (a breach of privacy) to fake an emergency call to me about a trivial issue got reamed a new one on the spot. That's how hard it is to get hold of my number. And I am grateful for that.... next time I'll give them a fake number or my fax number. Let the modem get it! God bless the technical support chick who shared the same opinion with me so many years ago... (we were colleagues so we shared the same common enemy [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

    What I REALLY want is a voice firewall with configurable ruleset. Preferably a ruleset modelled on Cisco Callmanager style call routing - the things you can do with that system are unbelievable. But I would be happy to be able to simply define basic rules that would enable given numbers to be routed to me, dropped silently, allowed to ring without activating the ringer, fake busy tone, fake disconnect, routed to your favorite 1-900 "adult women" chat service (to really piss them off) or diverted to my V.90 modem (yeah I'm evil [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). What if they have an unlisted number that doesn't show up on caller ID? Well, a ruleset should be able to accomodate a generic rule for "private numbers" - and I'd set it to drop silent. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

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    so what about that?
    is there Cell phone SPAM? do people with long term use of cells end up getting telemarketer calls? and does it go onto your minutes?

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    Some work requires it, but then employers abuse it. If you have an idea it's a calm time you can always turn it off and say the battery ran out! ;-) However, that one can't be used too often (if anyone asks why you didn't hear a battery warning beep, you can say it was packed in a bag).

    What about Blackberries (the increasingly popular wireless email devices)? I haven't heard anyone mention these. They add a whole new level of intrusion that will only increase over time with 'progress' and the batteries last a Long time.

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    I notice that alot of companies force their employees to carry cell phones or blackberry so the company can contact them during vacation. Is this legal? Does anyone know the legality of this at all?

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    [ QUOTE ]
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    What I REALLY want is a voice firewall with configurable ruleset. Preferably a ruleset modelled on Cisco Callmanager style call routing - the things you can do with that system are unbelievable. But I would be happy to be able to simply define basic rules that would enable given numbers to be routed to me, dropped silently, allowed to ring without activating the ringer, fake busy tone, fake disconnect, routed to your favorite 1-900 "adult women" chat service (to really piss them off) or diverted to my V.90 modem (yeah I'm evil [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]). What if they have an unlisted number that doesn't show up on caller ID? Well, a ruleset should be able to accomodate a generic rule for "private numbers" - and I'd set it to drop silent. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

    [/ QUOTE ]

    Hmm, I like this. It almost sounds like you can produce the equivalent of a phone number that's 127.0.0.1
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    I have a company phone. It is on 24x7. It was part of my package when I started with the company that a cell phone was necessary. I also have a pager...I am oncall for work 24x7 everyday. Even when on vacation I get called but it is not abused. They go through extreme lengths not to call and only call if it is needed.

    I didn't give the company my home number because instead of using my cell or paging me, some idiot would go right to calling the house at 4am and wake the whole house up. So they use the cell number to get me..At least it only wakes me up and the wife goes back to sleep very fast...

    They take good care of me though. I can't complain.

    IMO, as long as you don't let them abuse it, they won't. Allow them to abuse it and they will do it all the time.

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    I set up my cellphone number as a system-speed-dial so I can give out the number to coworkers without giving out the actual number, thus it can't be given to outsiders. It helps to curb abuse of that number.

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    I agree that would work. In my case it would take a lot to program that with everybody in the company. Between speed call lists and controller of those lists and the multiple lists in existance....you see my point...I could however have them call a number and que that number to my cell but it is the same thing essentially....After all, they pay the bill so and I answer when I want to anyway. I love that thing they call voice mail..

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    Unless one really needs e-mail, I give the raspberries to the Blackberry for just cell phone use. They almost made me trade my nice flip for a fruit. Cooler heads prevailed...and saved $$.

    So far, no calls today, yet, or yesterday. At least I've experienced some vacation without a cell interruption.

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    gadget_lover said:
    I have my own 1 man business, so I have to be in contact. The phone's on 24x7x365.

    Some day I'll have a vacation without laptop, cell phone and wireless modem. Maybe.

    Daniel

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    Vacation? Being pretty much self employed for several years, a 3 day weekend is pushing it!
    I will be selective in ANSWERING it however....

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    Ditto. If my phone doesn't ring, I don't eat. Even worse - I couldn't buy flashlights!

    If I don't answer it, I'll loose the business and I just can't afford to do that.
    It's a PITA, but that's just part of being a one person self employed business.

    At least I don't have to ask the boss IF I can GO on vacation.

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    I have a cell phone but it's turned off unless I'm expecting a call or I'm making an outgoing call. Not many people know the number. I do check email all the time when not on vacation, and typically once a week or so when on vacation. If someone at work needs to reach me for some reason, they can use email.

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    i have two phones - one is a number that work and "annoyances" have got
    the other is my personal phone that only close friends and family have got
    although i carry two phones with me - one keeps getting "left in the car" or "the battery died and i dont have a car charger" (im away from home for 4 days out of every 8)

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    At NASA I was forced to carry a cell phone, voice pager and a digital pager at the same time. Then I bought my personal cell phone and refused to give them the number. If people failed to coordinate after hours support for them then everything was turned off on weekends I went out of town or was on vacation. People would refuse to call my backup support when I was out and would let the work pile up for when I got back. That came to an end when I was on my honeymoon for a week and then decided to spend another week in Yosemite Park due to someone else cancelation. Lets just say that the people that like to pull that kind of stunt had some real eye openers when their management got done with them.

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