peter yetman
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Mind you it's only 4.2 lumens, so just designed for medical examinations.
Not exactly a Barnburner.
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Not exactly a Barnburner.
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Penlight for a med school student
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Yeah a bit of a waste imo, this one stays in the white coat pocket
jon_slider
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I endorse the Lumintop options, including the single AAA Titanium Tool with Nichia for a medical setting. It is a Class Act, worthy of a Medical Student that appreciates a quality "Tool" 
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About Batteries.. When you give her the light, give her some Energizer Ultimate Lithium Batteries, NOT Duracells that leak and corrode inside a light.
It starts on Medium at a very useful level, she may never use any of the other modes. There is no PWM, And definitely get the Nichia version, as Cool white options will not do justice to skin tones.
imo HDS is not at all a doctors pen light, WAAAY too fat and heavy, and it is in no way a "penlight" as it uses CR123 batteries.
I would avoid the Preons because they use PWM and are not High CRI
The Lumintop IYP365 (Nichia) is a great light, but it uses two batteries, this is overkill, excess weight, and a doctor has no need for the 200 lumens the extra battery makes possible.
. About Batteries.. When you give her the light, give her some Energizer Ultimate Lithium Batteries, NOT Duracells that leak and corrode inside a light.
It starts on Medium at a very useful level, she may never use any of the other modes. There is no PWM, And definitely get the Nichia version, as Cool white options will not do justice to skin tones.
imo HDS is not at all a doctors pen light, WAAAY too fat and heavy, and it is in no way a "penlight" as it uses CR123 batteries.
I would avoid the Preons because they use PWM and are not High CRI
The Lumintop IYP365 (Nichia) is a great light, but it uses two batteries, this is overkill, excess weight, and a doctor has no need for the 200 lumens the extra battery makes possible.
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^^^jon makes a good case there
vadimax
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I endorse the Lumintop options, including the single AAA Titanium Tool with Nichia for a medical setting. It is a Class Act, worthy of a Medical Student that appreciates a quality "Tool"
About Batteries.. When you give her the light, give her some Energizer Ultimate Lithium Batteries, NOT Duracells that leak and corrode inside a light.
It starts on Medium at a very useful level, she may never use any of the other modes. There is no PWM, And definitely get the Nichia version, as Cool white options will not do justice to skin tones.
imo HDS is not at all a doctors pen light, WAAAY too fat and heavy, and it is in no way a "penlight" as it uses CR123 batteries.
I would avoid the Preons because they use PWM and are not High CRI
The Lumintop IYP365 (Nichia) is a great light, but it uses two batteries, this is overkill, excess weight, and a doctor has no need for the 200 lumens the extra battery makes possible.
Lumintop IYP365 Nichia 219BT is 125 lm, not 200. It is time to start a religious war
Tool is uncomfortably small IMHO.
jon_slider
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thank you for the correct Max brightness spec of the Nichia version
1. I agree the TiTool is smaller and lighter than the IYP, that is why I recommend it, especially for a woman's delicate hands.. LOL!
2. Im sure you would agree that in a Medical setting Titanium looks cleaner, and more professional, than black anodized Aluminum.
3. The TiTool is 3x more expensive, and we all know you get what you pay for.. ROTFL!
4. Any self respecting parent of a Medical School student will of course want nothing but the best for their daughter, I know I do.
5. Since the primary use in an office will be Medium and possibly Low, there is no advantage to the higher High of the IYP.
specs:
IYP: 23 grams empty, plus 2 batteries (12 grams for an alkaline or Eneloop, 7 grams for an Ultimate Lithium). 5" long
TiTool: 22 grams empty, plus 1 battery. 2.9" long.
compare and contrast the specs:
IYP is 73% longer, and 28% heavier w Ultimate Lithium, or 38% heavier if using Alkaline or Eneloop.
No need for a religious war, as obviously the TiTool is the OTL (OneTrueLight). Repent! Before it is too late and your IYP is lost to the eternal fires of damnation.
ps, Titanium is The Metal of the Gods and will always be Shiny, something the IYP can never be. :devil:
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AvidHiker
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For your reference, this was the former Cadillac of incandescent penlights back in 2008 when high-CRI LEDs were just starting to appear:
WelchAllyn 76600: http://www.steeles.com/products/welch-allyn-halogen-penlite-76600
My wife was in residency at the time and I purchased one for her since a proper LED alternative was not available (although a certain titanium mastermind was already beginning to experiment). She had tried a small light I loaned her, but spectrum aside, preferred the focused light from the lensed halogen bulb in the 76600. She found it to be much less likely irritate her patients; not unlike light from an otoscope, her other go-to illumination tool.
WelchAllyn 76600: http://www.steeles.com/products/welch-allyn-halogen-penlite-76600
My wife was in residency at the time and I purchased one for her since a proper LED alternative was not available (although a certain titanium mastermind was already beginning to experiment). She had tried a small light I loaned her, but spectrum aside, preferred the focused light from the lensed halogen bulb in the 76600. She found it to be much less likely irritate her patients; not unlike light from an otoscope, her other go-to illumination tool.
vadimax
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I've got both of Lumintops. Personally for me the Tool is too small. Its finish feels sharp edged somehow. Its switch is flush with a tail cap and I need a nail to operate it -- not so comfy.
The IYP365 is fine in size -- all we are familiar with ball pens, their size and their operation. As a result I have passed my Tool Ti to my wife and... she doesn't use it as well But IYP365 I carry and use every day. Both are Nichias.
The IYP365 is fine in size -- all we are familiar with ball pens, their size and their operation. As a result I have passed my Tool Ti to my wife and... she doesn't use it as well
But IYP365 I carry and use every day. Both are Nichias.jon_slider
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great option, a couple advantages over the TiTool:
1. The Halogen Incandescent bulb will have better color rendering than an LED
2. And it IS likely that the two AAA "penlight" format will ride deep and stay straight clipped to a pocket, better than the shorter TiTool. (the TiTool clip leaves more of the light protruding above the edge of the pocket, this is not a good thing as the shorter body can more easily tend to flip the pocket lip)
The WelchAllyn (I could find no weight nor brightness specs) being brass, will be about 29% heavier than the IYP.
I agree. I used 600 grit emery paper to smooth out my TiTool. I also found I had to use a fingertip to activate the switch.
I can appreciate, and agree, that in practical day to day use the two AAA PenLight format has better ergonomics than the TiTool. The ease of use of a PenLight switch and the form factor are more user friendly.
I would like to change my vote, to IYP!
(The Devil Made me Do It.. LOL!)I also do not use my TiTool, I prefer the easier access of the Copper Tool's protruding tailswitch.
of course this means the OP now has to buy more than one light.. so his daughter can make her own Choice!
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peter yetman
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I think we're getting there...
I have to say this has been one of the most interesting threads of the last few months.
Thanks,
Peter
I have to say this has been one of the most interesting threads of the last few months.
Thanks,
Peter
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I've got both of Lumintops. Personally for me the Tool is too small. Its finish feels sharp edged somehow. Its switch is flush with a tail cap and I need a nail to operate it -- not so comfy.
The IYP365 is fine in size -- all we are familiar with ball pens, their size and their operation. As a result I have passed my Tool Ti to my wife and... she doesn't use it as well
I have the Tool Ti and like it a lot.... I have small hands (for a male) and it's just large enough for me to hold it comfortably with an upright closed fist (with my thumb positioned near the tail switch).... I do not use my thumbnail to activate the switch, a simple press with the top portion of my thumb works fine...
I also plan to pick up a IYP365 soon.... Glad to hear some of you enjoy & recommend that light....
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might be interesting to compare brightness specs, Ive highlighted the Lows:
Nextorch (nichia?) 4 lumens only (one click of the switch to get low)
IYP nichia 25-1.5-125 lumens (three clicks of the switch to get low)
TiTool nichia 18-3-80 (three clicks of the switch to get low)
IF its true that a Doctors penlight should be about 4 lumens.. the IYP is not as good a match as the TiTool. OTOH, I have a ReyLight Tool w Nichia, with a 1 Lumen Low, and I find it not overly harsh to shine the LED at my eyes. So the IYP might still be perfectly fine.
I wish the brightness specs for the WelchAllyn penlight were known
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Timothybil
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Isn't the TiTool the one with the funky electronic switch in the tail? I seriously looked at it, and was even ready to buy one from Massdrop, but read several reviews about the switch and decided I didn't need the hassle.
Also, what is the IPxx rating for the TiTool? The IYP365 is rated IPX8, which means it should be able to handle a five minute soak in an alcohol bath with no problems. The smooth surface will also facilitate cleanliness, since there are fewer nooks and crannies for bad things to hide out in. I really would not like to have to clean a TiTool if it got contaminated by some of the things one finds while practicing medicine, that can't be removed by a simple soak in disinfectant. :green:
Also, what is the IPxx rating for the TiTool? The IYP365 is rated IPX8, which means it should be able to handle a five minute soak in an alcohol bath with no problems. The smooth surface will also facilitate cleanliness, since there are fewer nooks and crannies for bad things to hide out in. I really would not like to have to clean a TiTool if it got contaminated by some of the things one finds while practicing medicine, that can't be removed by a simple soak in disinfectant. :green:
vadimax
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I am sorry, with IYP you need one click and one half press to get low. It changes modes with half presses.
vadimax
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By the way, very important point!
jon_slider
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Yes the TiTool is the one with the electronic switch that requires a battery be in the light for at least 20 minutes before High Mode works at full brightness.
Both lights are sealed with Orings and can be submerged in alcohol
fwiw, here is a 3 lumen Nichia on the left, as in the TiTool. The right is a 1 lumen Nichia, slightly less than the 1.5 lumen low of the IYP.
I find the 1 lumen low practically useless unless Im in complete darkness, so the 3 lumen Low would possibly more practical to look in a patients ears
but, I dont think I have enough info about how the OPs daughter will use a light, since for ears she will have access to a proper otoscope. If otoh, she wants a light to occasionally look in a dark closet or cupboard, or to walk through a darkened room, then Medium on Both the TiTool and the IYP would be adequate.
I did not bring up the intricacies of the TiTool Switch for an application where High Mode is not a priority. If High mode was a priority, I would recommend the IYP over the TiTool. For hand/touch comfort, I would again vote IYP
The things the TiTool does better (less weight, less likely to accidental activation in deep pocket carry) than the IYP are not primary criteria for the OP. So overall, those are reasons why I changed my vote in favor of the IYP.
Im not sure the OP is buying a light to be used in inspecting eyes and ears. I also am not sure it will be used in a way that covers it with blood and gore, so knurled or smooth is more of a comfort issue than sanitation maybe. I think its more that the parent wants to gift the child something the parent likes. I also have a child in Grad school, but she is not at all interested in any of the flashlights Ive wanted to gift her. She uses her cell phone as a flashlight.. eeek!
There was one other person a while back asking what to buy, that was in the medical field, and they wanted something that was bright enough for transdermal illumination. I believe they decided on a Copper Tool w Nichia.. but like the TiTool, thats not really a PenLight configuration...
since the thread title says penlight.. IYP
Both lights are sealed with Orings and can be submerged in alcohol
fwiw, here is a 3 lumen Nichia on the left, as in the TiTool. The right is a 1 lumen Nichia, slightly less than the 1.5 lumen low of the IYP.
I find the 1 lumen low practically useless unless Im in complete darkness, so the 3 lumen Low would possibly more practical to look in a patients ears
but, I dont think I have enough info about how the OPs daughter will use a light, since for ears she will have access to a proper otoscope. If otoh, she wants a light to occasionally look in a dark closet or cupboard, or to walk through a darkened room, then Medium on Both the TiTool and the IYP would be adequate.
I did not bring up the intricacies of the TiTool Switch for an application where High Mode is not a priority. If High mode was a priority, I would recommend the IYP over the TiTool. For hand/touch comfort, I would again vote IYP
The things the TiTool does better (less weight, less likely to accidental activation in deep pocket carry) than the IYP are not primary criteria for the OP. So overall, those are reasons why I changed my vote in favor of the IYP.
Im not sure the OP is buying a light to be used in inspecting eyes and ears. I also am not sure it will be used in a way that covers it with blood and gore, so knurled or smooth is more of a comfort issue than sanitation maybe. I think its more that the parent wants to gift the child something the parent likes. I also have a child in Grad school, but she is not at all interested in any of the flashlights Ive wanted to gift her. She uses her cell phone as a flashlight.. eeek!
There was one other person a while back asking what to buy, that was in the medical field, and they wanted something that was bright enough for transdermal illumination. I believe they decided on a Copper Tool w Nichia.. but like the TiTool, thats not really a PenLight configuration.
.. since the thread title says penlight.. IYP
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These cheap led penlights shown the side of the webpage seem pretty practical also.
That is an interesting light.
