BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part X)

Status
Not open for further replies.

bshanahan14rulz

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 29, 2009
Messages
2,819
Location
Tennessee
Re: Ultrfire C1

I got the Ultrafire C1 ... because of its HA-III anti-scratch finish...

Can anybody confirm this as real anodization? I am thinking about getting one and will probably get the one above, but I'd like to know if anybody else has tested the finish. Thanks =)
 

divine

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Sep 30, 2007
Messages
1,871
Location
Virginia
Re: My KD buckle V6 (1AAA) runtime

It looks like you might get longer runtime with a NiMh.

I'm surprised at how well regulated it is, and it has a nice beam from the XP-E.
 

LukeA

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Jun 3, 2007
Messages
4,399
Location
near Pittsburgh
Re: Ultrfire C1

Can anybody confirm this as real anodization? I am thinking about getting one and will probably get the one above, but I'd like to know if anybody else has tested the finish. Thanks =)

What do you think it is? :whistle:

There aren't any real surprises on DX.
 

FlashCrazy

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Jan 7, 2007
Messages
1,234
Location
Northern CA
Re: My KD buckle V6 (1AAA) runtime

Very good regulation for an alkaline AAA. Most single AAA lights that are high powered will go out of regulation in the first few minutes when using an alkaline. Try a NiMH if you have one, like divine mentioned, it should be better.
 

Illum

Flashaholic
Joined
Apr 29, 2006
Messages
13,053
Location
Central Florida, USA
Re: My KD buckle V6 (1AAA) runtime

the XP-E's die size is significantly smaller than the XR-Es [or event XR-Cs] so collimation should be much easier:)
 

funkychateau

Enlightened
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
274
Location
Dallas, Texas, USA
Akoray Cree K-103 Beamshot Question

I read with interest Bessiebenny's short review of the K-103, https://www.candlepowerforums.com/posts/2953714&postcount=323.

I already own both the K-102 and K-106 (and like them a lot), but would be very interested in the K-103 for increased output in AAA format.

But the beamshots don't really tell me how bright it appears, without a reference. I was wondering if anyone could tell me how the output appears side-by-side to a Streamlight MicroStream, using alkaline batteries in each. I own the Microstream, and it's probably my favorite AAA pocket light at present. If this one is substantially brighter, I'll have to go and get one.
 

MerkurMan

Newly Enlightened
Joined
Dec 21, 2008
Messages
143
Location
Ontario, Canada
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I don't have a Microstream, but I do have both a Stylus Pro and a K-103 that I could compare. I'm not sure how the two Streamlights stack up, but if it would be any help, I could snap off a couple of beamshots tonight.
 

funkychateau

Enlightened
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
274
Location
Dallas, Texas, USA
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I don't have a Microstream, but I do have both a Stylus Pro and a K-103 that I could compare. I'm not sure how the two Streamlights stack up, but if it would be any help, I could snap off a couple of beamshots tonight.

I also have a stylus pro, and there doesn't seem to be much difference in output as long as the battery in the microstream is fresh. The stylus pro holds its output much longer.

Yes, that would be a very useful comparison, stylus pro vs Akoray K-103 (alkaline AAAs in both).
 

kramer5150

Flashaholic
Joined
Sep 6, 2005
Messages
6,328
Location
Palo Alto, CA
Re: UltraFire U4-MCU Cree Q5-WC Module

Just received my new UltraFire U4-MCU from DX.

Initially it didn't work (a common DX problem it seems) but after a bit of fiddling it fired up and now works perfectly and gives an excellent beam. The DX envelope and box had been ripped open and then crudely taped up again, probably by some impatient Customs inspector, and the AAA battery holder was missing one of its vital spring connectors, so it's now useless but that's OK, I wasn't really planning on using it anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if my spring is lying on the floor somewhere in the Customs office.

However, it's a very nicely made light, but the factory assembly is not very thorough, so the first step with all of these Chinese lights seems to be to unscrew everything, clean off excess lube, clean all screw threads, then reassemble everything carefully. A bit of a nuisance, but not a major problem considering the cheap price.

In my case, the problem was with the LED drop-in module. The reflector is machined out of an aluminium cylinder and the driver and LED are pressed into the base. There is a brass rivet through the black plastic base that serves as the positive contact. I think something in the base wasn't making contact because when I pressed firmly on the base, there was a little "click" and the base moved down very slightly and that solved the problem.
U4-MCU1.jpg
U4-MCU2.jpg
U4-MCU3.jpg

I would like to disassemble the module to check that everything is OK inside, but I can't see how to, apart from levering the plastic plug out with a sharp point which could easily destroy it, so I'm wondering if anyone else has encountered one of these modules and is there a way to pull it apart without damaging it that I'm missing?


that pill looks completely different that the one pictured on the DX site...
sku174014.jpg


I do not know how to take apart the -pill on your light.
 

MerkurMan

Newly Enlightened
Joined
Dec 21, 2008
Messages
143
Location
Ontario, Canada
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I also have a stylus pro, and there doesn't seem to be much difference in output as long as the battery in the microstream is fresh. The stylus pro holds its output much longer.

Yes, that would be a very useful comparison, stylus pro vs Akoray K-103 (alkaline AAAs in both).

I didn't realize this until I got home, but I don't have any fresh AAA alkalines! :ohgeez: I also don't have any large, unobstructed walls in my house that aren't constantly lit (bright streetlights + opaque curtains = free nightlights in every room!). So, I did a little finagling. The first picture is a comparison of both lights, with the K-103 running on a 900mah Soshine NiMH @ 1.247v and the Stylus Pro running on the Energizer alkalines (03-2015 date) that came with it. I just picked up the light yesterday to replace my old Stylus Pro that "grew legs" at work (grr), so the batteries are fresh.

The second set of pictures are taken on Manual mode with the same exposure settings, and just to be fair, I took one of the Energizers out of the SP and put it in the K-103. To be honest, though, I couldn't notice any difference in brightness between the two batteries in the K-103.

Direct comparison -- K-103 left, Stylus Pro right. Excuse my finger, which partially obstructed the K-103's spill at 4 o'clock:

p6x7xma1pem8ef4oimqm.jpg
1245994729.jpg



Stylus Pro:
1/40 sec f2.8

dbp3s1jys67pctcrxhz3.jpg
1246002978.jpg



K-103:
1/40 sec f2.8

mwifd30nf7209mmonfym.jpg
1245978324.jpg



Size comparison:

sfr2ooodouummwn9a067.jpg
1246045018.jpg



Overall, the K-103 is much, much brighter. The spot is only a little higher in intensity than the SP, but it is about twice the size. The spill, while still brighter, is smaller than the SP's. One advantage that the SP has over the Akoray is beam quality. A very nicely focused spot gently transitioning to a smooth, even spill. The Akoray has a very noticeable dark ring around the spot, which itself is slightly asymmetrical. Tint on the Akoray is cooler than the SP.

I know these aren't the greatest beamshots in the world, but I hope they get you a little closer to making a decision!
 
Last edited:

bessiebenny

Enlightened
Joined
Sep 8, 2007
Messages
786
Location
Sydney, Australia
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

UPDATE
- Big thanks to Thrawn @ OCAU for sending me 4 flashlights to review! :thumbsup:

1. Eastward YJ-18WA Q5 18650
2. TANK007 TK-701 SSC AAA
3. Small Sun ZY-C60 RCR
4. C30 RC123

I will review them in the upcoming days/weeks and post it here as usual. =)

--

UPDATE #2
- Some quick lightbox results.
- As you can see from C30's focusable light's results, my lightbox isn't perfect.
- It does not capture or measure every light that the light emits out.
- But still, it does give an indication of how bright it lights up inside my lightbox.

1. Eastward YJ-18WA Q5 18650
Lightbox - High 620 lux , Low 120 lux

2. TANK007 TK-701 SSC AAA
Lightbox - 230 lux 10440 (But after 3-5 seconds, drops instantly to around 50 lux - some form of protection?)
Lightbox - 115 lux AAA

3. Small Sun ZY-C60 RCR
Lightbox - 510 lux

4. C30 RC123
Lightbox - 195 lux (wide) 120 lux (throw)
(reflectivity difference within the box)
 
Last edited:

sirhc

Newly Enlightened
Joined
May 18, 2009
Messages
5
Location
Gold Coast, Australia
Re: UltraFire U4-MCU Cree Q5-WC Module

that pill looks completely different that the one pictured on the DX site... I do not know how to take apart the -pill on your light.
Thanks for your reply. I'm suspecting this all-in-one press-fit design might be a cost cutting measure. So if it dies, don't try to repair it, just buy a new flashlight ... a bit of the old "planned obsolescence" perhaps?:sigh:
 

kosPap

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Mar 1, 2007
Messages
2,909
Location
Naoussa Greece
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

UPDATE
- Big thanks to Thrawn @ OCAU for sending me 4 flashlights to review! \

1. Eastward YJ-18WA Q5 18650
2. TANK007 TK-701 SSC AAA
3. Small Sun ZY-C60 RCR

BSBN could yuo do me a favor checking if the LED pill can me replaced with a brass P60 drop-in pill? (the MXPower flashlight that seems similar does!)

for reference see...https://www.candlepowerforums.com/threads/227342

TNX Kostas
 

funkychateau

Enlightened
Joined
Apr 6, 2009
Messages
274
Location
Dallas, Texas, USA
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I didn't realize this until I got home, but I don't have any fresh AAA alkalines! :ohgeez: I also don't have any large, unobstructed walls in my house that aren't constantly lit (bright streetlights + opaque curtains = free nightlights in every room!). So, I did a little finagling. The first picture is a comparison of both lights, with the K-103 running on a 900mah Soshine NiMH @ 1.247v and the Stylus Pro running on the Energizer alkalines (03-2015 date) that came with it. I just picked up the light yesterday to replace my old Stylus Pro that "grew legs" at work (grr), so the batteries are fresh.

Overall, the K-103 is much, much brighter. The spot is only a little higher in intensity than the SP, but it is about twice the size. The spill, while still brighter, is smaller than the SP's. One advantage that the SP has over the Akoray is beam quality. A very nicely focused spot gently transitioning to a smooth, even spill. The Akoray has a very noticeable dark ring around the spot, which itself is slightly asymmetrical. Tint on the Akoray is cooler than the SP.

I know these aren't the greatest beamshots in the world, but I hope they get you a little closer to making a decision!

Looks good to me. I think I'll buy one!
 

davidt1

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
1,907
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I am getting ready to buy these from DX:

1. K-103 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23994

2. K-106 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16607

3. 2 10440s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.974

4. 2 14500s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.975

5. Charger http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4151

I need some final recommendations before I buy. Can I do better? Should I buy protected batteries instead? Are there better lights and charger for the same price? What else should I buy? Thanks.
 

boomhauer

Banned
Joined
Mar 13, 2009
Messages
177
Location
Maryland
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I am getting ready to buy these from DX:

1. K-103 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23994

2. K-106 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16607

3. 2 10440s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.974

4. 2 14500s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.975

5. Charger http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4151

I need some final recommendations before I buy. Can I do better? Should I buy protected batteries instead? Are there better lights and charger for the same price? What else should I buy? Thanks.

As for the AKOrays themselves, I would get them from Kaidomain only because there the K-103 is advertised as a Q5 and the K-106 is a simpler 3-mode.

I paid a couple more bucks for charger sku.973, which is basically a WF-138 set up for 10440/14500. The charger seems to work perfectly and supplies low-current appropriate for the smaller cells.

Although protection is not possible with the 10440s, I think it's worthwhile for the 14500 cells. I got the Trustfires about a buck more.

JMO. Hope this helps.
 

Black Rose

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Mar 8, 2008
Messages
4,626
Location
Ottawa, ON, Canada
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

DX advertises the K-106 as a 6-mode, but they are actually shipping the 3-mode model.
 

boomhauer

Banned
Joined
Mar 13, 2009
Messages
177
Location
Maryland
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

DX advertises the K-106 as a 6-mode, but they are actually shipping the 3-mode model.
I'm not surprised, and don't have much faith in either KD or DX specs anyway.

One nice thing about the AKOrays is that they say "0.7 - 4.5V" right on the barrel. Now that I believe.

On the subject of AKOrays, I found a couple Ebay dealers who claim to be selling K-105, 10440 multi-mode lights for around $20. Never seen or heard of them before.
 

[email protected]

Newly Enlightened
Joined
Aug 23, 2007
Messages
31
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

I am getting ready to buy these from DX:

1. K-103 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23994

2. K-106 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.16607

3. 2 10440s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.974

4. 2 14500s http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.975

5. Charger http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4151

I need some final recommendations before I buy. Can I do better? Should I buy protected batteries instead? Are there better lights and charger for the same price? What else should I buy? Thanks.

I just received essentially the same goods from KD, except I got protected 14500s. The AKOray flashlights are an amazing value, seemingly as well made as my Fenix and Jetbeam lights. The 106 needs the 14500s to perform, but the 103 is quite bright on alkalines too. Runtimes for both lights are very good as well. Be sure to heat the plastic tubing on the pocket clips on both lights or they'll fall off the first time you use them.

Can you do better for anywhere near the same dollars? Don't think so at this time. Frankly, if these were 3x as expensive, they'd be getting even better reviews.

Wondering if anybody has done runtimes on these two lights with lithium primaries?
 

davidt1

Flashlight Enthusiast
Joined
Sep 23, 2008
Messages
1,907
Re: BessieBenny's Budget LED (DX/KD etc) Flashlights Review Roundup (Part 10)

As for the AKOrays themselves, I would get them from Kaidomain only because there the K-103 is advertised as a Q5 and the K-106 is a simpler 3-mode.

I paid a couple more bucks for charger sku.973, which is basically a WF-138 set up for 10440/14500. The charger seems to work perfectly and supplies low-current appropriate for the smaller cells.

Although protection is not possible with the 10440s, I think it's worthwhile for the 14500 cells. I got the Trustfires about a buck more.

JMO. Hope this helps.

Thanks. I couldn't find the charger and batteries you mentioned. Can you provide links?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top