Emitter Recommendations

[desert.snake]

Do you think there are enough people willing to accept 164 lumens maximum?

1 already there - 120-140 is enough for me, if the shade and CRI are exactly what I need

 

[jon_slider]

a couple more High CRI warm options

this one being more floody, with lower R9 CRI:
2700k LH351D

and this one more throwy, and higher R9 CRI
2700k SST-20

How about SW30 of Nichia 219B.

For low light use, I think sw30 is a great option, and it is the LED I choose for myself, when not using sw45k.

sw30 is less green than the LH351d and SST-20

I call this my dynamic duo
sw45k and sw30

 

[WarriorOfLight]

@Jon
For me a 180 lumens light it is perfect. A HDS is for me a EDC light that does not need 500+ Lumens.

I have some SWM V10R (XP-G and XM-L versions) and the "problem" (at least with the XM-L version) is that the light really gets extremely hot if it is on maximum and a LiIon cell is used. A HDS only gets warm.
I guess I told you that I also still use my old Surefire Outdoorsman lights that have 45 Lumens or ~150 Lumens depending on the light and the generation.

My brightest LED light is ~3000 Lumens, it is a Surefire Z3 with an Overready v5 (??) Dropin. Than my Surefire Dominator follows with 2400 Lumens. All other lights I own are more or less below 1000 Lumens. Sure it is impressive to see an Imalent MS18 beam, but I do not have any use for such a light at all.

We will see if Henry and Hogo are checking the two linked LEDs. Maybe we are lucky and one of this qualifies for a next limited LED type!??

I'd also be in for a 219B SW30 HDS. Maybe Hogo is able to explain Henry the "urgent need" for 3000K on a regular (non special metal) HDS!?

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

Seoul Sunlike

wrong physical size and wrong pad layout. Also only rated at .2 watts.... while we aren't in the lumens wars, a 20 lumen HDS probably isn't going to sell well.

 

[Hogokansatsukan]

From the past, and also special metal runs, 3000-3500k have been quite a bit less popular than 4000-5000k by a large margin.

Once the special metal lights ship, then the remaining are sold, I would expect there to be some of the Nichia 3000k and 3500 left over which will then be offered in aluminum. You just have to wait.

Until then, we will be doing some testing on a Samsung 3k... which we expect to produce 250 lumens of high CRI. If they turn out, there won't be many offered so...

 

[id30209]

It's that time of year to stir the waters…
Gents, Nichia 519A finally hit what we've been looking for for years, super high cri and high power output.
In 3535 format…
Hogo, it's time to talk to Henry. Again.

https://www.nichia.co.jp/specification/products/led_spec/NVSW519AT-E(6102D)R70%20R8000%20R9080.pdf

 

[LEDphile]

Looks like the 519A is using a similar chip size to the Cree XP-L and Samsung LH351D. So yes, more lumens, but with a wider beam.

 

[id30209]

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Looks like the 519A is using a similar chip size to the Cree XP-L and Samsung LH351D. So yes, more lumens, but with a wider beam.

Not that big at all. I can confirm once i get them but factory pictures are quite normal size

 

[id30209]

Some interesting meassurements

 

[John_Galt]

Although Osram W1 is 3030 footprint it can be soldered to a 3535 board.

https://led4power.com/product/osram-kw-cslnm1-tg-1mm2-die-on-16mm-3030-dtp-mcpcb/



Osram w1 would be great to see, reminiscent of the Ra era golden dragon lights, however it would really shine if there was a "go ahead and melt the light" max drive level. Henry's lights are not about max power, so I don't see it happening.

 

[WarriorOfLight]

What about Nichia 219B 2700K 9080 -- a NB27 HDS? Even of it would be less than 200lm, I would like it. Available here:

WTS/GB: NICHIA 219B NVSL219BT-V1 R9080 EMITTERS! sw45k, sw40, sw35, sw30

UPDATE: Clearing out what 219b I have left. New pricing will be $2 per emitter plus shipping. Get them while supplies last. This needs little introduction… Pretty much the ultimate in LED tint attested by many. High CRI as well as high R9. I have the following Nichia 219b r9080 emitters...

budgetlightforum.com

 

[tech25]

I think Hogo mentioned that the really warm emitters didn't sell too well.

 

[WarriorOfLight]

But anyway NB30 and NB35 was sold out quite fast in the big HiCRI emitter offer. 4K Emitters are always offered, but bot ultra los K emitters. 2700 is realky warm. I would buy one it this option is available.

 

[jon_slider]

...Nichia 219B 2700K 9080... Even of it would be less than 200lm, I would like it.

That is a D160 LED..
it would make 160 Lumens in an HDS..

The sw35 D180, makes 180 Lumens in an HDS, and the sw45k D200 makes 200 Lumens in a HDS

iow, the Dbin spec, happens to match the output of an HDS

 

[WarriorOfLight]

160lm is f***ing bright

I only need for most usecases 1-300lm. I offen use my old Surefire E1L Outdoorsman with 45lm...

 

[desert.snake]

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/creeled-inc/XPPAWT-H0-0000-0000U50E3/16360985?s=N4IgjCBcpgbGAWKoDGUBmBDANgZwKYA0IA9lANogBMAzLAKwCcEAusQA4AuUIAypwCcAlgDsA5iAC%2BxALRJoINJCx4ipCuAAMm2AA5YIFtJAyqyRVEEBXNWUiV6h4zIMKl12xqTEaT42fsQAA92dkNiV1AhABMeGTBNCA5uSBAQYk4AT3Z8HmjcNElJIA

XP-P 5000K 65CRI

I think the beam will be as nice as the old osram