They do, but they're much easier to put out.Thank God gas cars never catch on fire
They do, but they're much easier to put out.Thank God gas cars never catch on fire
Easy for who. It's like napalm. With batteries they give you a warning. Australia's Department of Defense researched the same question and found that "there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars." That's 83 times more likely that gas will burn.They do, but they're much easier to put out.
Plus gas can leak all over a garage then something can ignite itEasy for who. It's like napalm. With batteries they give you a warning. Australia's Department of Defense researched the same question and found that "there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars." That's 83 times more likely that gas will burn.
Easy for who. It's like napalm. With batteries they give you a warning. Australia's Department of Defense researched the same question and found that "there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars." That's 83 times more likely that gas will burn.
I do care that people drive cancer spreading vehicles, however I am more concerned when falsehoods about electricity is spread. I have to lay out the truth based on fact, as opposed to fear represented by myth. People didn't like smog tests and vehicle inspections, however you complied. But the Diesel Brothers cheated. Fined $800k. Audi, Mercedes, VW, they all cheated. People cheat. That is why I have decided to go away from fossil fuels. I have been transitioning for decades. During the pandemic turned off the gas, got electric space heaters, induction cooking and heat pump clothes dryer. You can have your dependable Japanese vehicles and bend over to ExxonMobil. You know what to expect. Here are my facts: Electric has the lowest cost of maintenance. You can make your own fuel. You don't poison anyone. Just as a matter of common sense one should do the math and see if cleaning up the environment is affordable. At $550.00 a year "for my family" I have found this to be true. 83 gas fires to 1 electric fire. Another good reason.Btw I'm out lol. This conversation will only upset my fellows cpf friends and do nothing to change minds, my time will be better off yelling at clouds
Here are my facts:
The number of ice vehicle fires reduces more and more as Ford Pinto's are sent to the scrap yard.
Where would someone get and store enough CO2 for that? The Economy parking garage at Tampa International Airport (TPA) is ~4,860,000 sqft total, approx 800,000 sqft per floor. That's just one of three garages there.You would think that CO2 would work better than water. It doesn't conduct electricity and it will lower the temperature.
I watched a presentation from Siemens in Europe where they developed a misting sprinkler system for use in parking garages and caught an EV on fire and the system stopped the fire from doing damage to the vehicles parked directly next to it on both sides. It was started by heat, not by salt water.
A Professional's take on putting out EV fires:
All truly frightening. Thank you for posting, especially that you're posting the experiences of someone who actually fights fires IRL, not in his dreams. Ironic of course that CO2 is the boogy man of the moment.Where would someone get and store enough CO2 for that? The Economy parking garage at Tampa International Airport (TPA) is ~4,860,000 sqft total, approx 800,000 sqft per floor. That's just one of three garages there.
The scary part is that the main terminal has 5 levels of cars parked on its roof. 3,500 spaces, with a ceiling height of 7' at most. Imagine if a Luton Airport-type fire happened there, and Luton only had 1,300 cars parked with much taller ceilings. Here, there would be deaths and due to the hub-and-spoke design of the airport, the entire airport would be closed for probably a month or more.
At the dinner with the fire chief, the idea of an EV catching on fire in a skyscraper garage seemed to be a real problem. No way to vent the toxic gasses outside fast enough, so they'd end up getting into elevators and stairwells. Likewise, no way to access the fire from outside, and the risk that the building's supports would be compromised by heat. Would you send your men into a situation like that?
I trust this Aussie over the over reactive firefighter...or is he involved in junior theater?So, you have fought fires?
Have you ever fought an ICE vehicle fire?
Have you ever fought an EV fire?
Are you a Firefighter?
What is your knowledge base to make any judgements about which vehicle fire is easier to put out?
I think you would argue that the moon was made of cheese if you were told to.....it's pretty obvious that the present power that drives EV's is in its infancy, and could be very dangerous if not assembled or treated correctly. There are a myriad of problems from charging, to disposal to fire risk and pollution due to production, which need to be sorted out prior to your utopian vision of motoring.Easy for who. It's like napalm. With batteries they give you a warning. Australia's Department of Defense researched the same question and found that "there was a 0.0012% chance of a passenger electric vehicle battery catching fire, compared with a 0.1% chance for internal combustion engine cars." That's 83 times more likely that gas will burn.
Sorry, I was talking about CO2 for firefighters for one car. Don't the portable fire extinguishers use CO2?Where would someone get and store enough CO2 for that? The Economy parking garage at Tampa International Airport (TPA) is ~4,860,000 sqft total, approx 800,000 sqft per floor. That's just one of three garages there.
The scary part is that the main terminal has 5 levels of cars parked on its roof. 3,500 spaces, with a ceiling height of 7' at most. Imagine if a Luton Airport-type fire happened there, and Luton only had 1,300 cars parked with much taller ceilings. Here, there would be deaths and due to the hub-and-spoke design of the airport, the entire airport would be closed for probably a month or more.
At the dinner with the fire chief, the idea of an EV catching on fire in a skyscraper garage seemed to be a real problem. No way to vent the toxic gasses outside fast enough, so they'd end up getting into elevators and stairwells. Likewise, no way to access the fire from outside, and the risk that the building's supports would be compromised by heat. Would you send your men into a situation like that?
I trust this Aussie over the over reactive firefighter...or is he involved in junior theater?