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Newly Enlightened
- Joined
- Mar 9, 2008
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Thanks... love de-crippling stuff like this, no love for manufacturers that go the extra distance to dump down their products...
Wait a sec... wasn't that the EXACT way you entered the options menu in the old HDS models?
Actually, the method of accessing the menu is indeed exactly the same in that in both cases you simply access the menu in the normal way but use 250 clicks instead of 10 or 3. The difference is in the way the different versions work, not in the method.As I understand it, you did 250 clicks from off on the EDC Basic. So, definitely very similar, but not exact.
I was able to crack my 120E successfully. I also was able to restore it back to 120E with a factory reset. Then I cracked it again. So the crack is definitely reversible.
lol, it's a beauty ain't it? :naughty:Awesome news. Hey streetmaster, you'll never guess which RPM Bezel I ordered?
I'm pretty sure I would notice the difference betweem 85 and 120 lumens. I have not lost any brightness.Now that it can be reliably reset to the default light can anyone verify whether the programming currently known lowers the highest level to 85 Lumens instead of 120? This may be a small enough difference to require a light meter to be sure. For most purposes I'd give up the extra lumens to have all the 'P' functions in this light if I had to. But of course it will be nice to see full power if we can.
Did I also mention that Botach Tactical has 120E's for only $89.95. That's where I got mine from 2 weeks ago. The seem like a real good deal now!
When I bought mine there was a 10% off code(can't remember) and I ended up paying $80.96 plus shipping.Hey, you can get an extra 8.25% off using the code "catax" on their site. (As of right now, 11/18/08)
So, it breaks down like this
Novatac EDC 120E = $89.95
UPS Ground $10.61 (to PA)
Tax $0.00
Apply code "catax" -$7.43
Total Shipped $93.14
Hitec
If you or someone could check with a light meter, I would really appreciate it. The more I look at it on high, the more I'm doubting my ability to tell the difference. But I'm gonna stick with my first impression that it's still 120lm on high. I hope I'm right.For the newer people here you might want to check the Jeers section before buying from Botach. They have quite a history. I won't get into it here so as to stay on topic but since some people here are obviously looking to get a deal on a Novatac to reprogram you might look elsewhere. Check the 'Good deals' section on CPF Marketplace and you'll find some better alternatives.
As far as not needing a light meter to tell the difference between 85 and 120 Lumens I would say that most people would need it. First you have your memory of an exact brightness to deal with. Then you have some simple physics and a general rule I think most have found to hold true here that it takes a doubling of output lumens to be very noticeable difference. I recently got a light that reads over 4000 Lux on a light meter I have. I thought when I first got it that it was less bright than another light. I then checked the other light on the meter and found it was just barely 2000 Lux. Even trying one and then the other a few seconds later it was hard to tell a difference in brightness until they were side by side at the same time. So while I'd like to believe there is no difference I'd like to see the actual measurements. If no one can do this in the next couple days I should be able to do so as I'll probably have a 120T in hand in the next day or two and I'll verify this on my light meter. Either way I'm thrilled to have the option of reprogramming much thanks to LLCoolBeans!
The more I look at it, the less I trust my eyes. Dammit, how can I find out for sure??