rikvee
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
thanks atm!
thanks atm!
Popular bulbs current draw; SF & other brands, incl hotwires
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rikvee
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
still looking for the answers on these ones:
Surefire N2 9V Turbo - ?
Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
still looking for the answers on these ones:
Surefire N2 9V Turbo - ?
Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
I don't think it is right. Strion's battery is rated at 3.75 Volt, 2000 mAh minimum and runtime at up to 70 min. It's bulb at 3.6 Volt, 6.12 Watt.
Surefire P60 isn't producing much more light then Strion if we take overall output ratings from flashlightreviews.com.
rikvee said:
I don't think it is right. Strion's battery is rated at 3.75 Volt, 2000 mAh minimum and runtime at up to 70 min. It's bulb at 3.6 Volt, 6.12 Watt.
rikvee said:
Surefire P60 isn't producing much more light then Strion if we take overall output ratings from flashlightreviews.com.
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
With brand new 123s, measuring 3.2-3.3v unloaded:
I get 1.13A for the SF P60 as listed.
Also 1.23A for the TL3, and 1.32A with Wolf-Eyes 9v D26, both very close to the listed #s.
I just checked those out of curiosity.
Here's one to add.
1.21A for the SF N2 LA.
With brand new 123s, measuring 3.2-3.3v unloaded:
I get 1.13A for the SF P60 as listed.
Also 1.23A for the TL3, and 1.32A with Wolf-Eyes 9v D26, both very close to the listed #s.
I just checked those out of curiosity.
Here's one to add.
1.21A for the SF N2 LA.
rikvee
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Bewdiful, have put the figures in, thank you Owen!
Bewdiful, have put the figures in, thank you Owen!
rikvee
Enlightened
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Still looking for the current draw of the following globes:
- Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
should there be any others on this list?
Still looking for the current draw of the following globes:
- Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
should there be any others on this list?
KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
You didn't state any limitation on bulbs so...
6V-rated, best driven on 7.2V
Pelican #3854 High (ROP high) - 4.15A
Pelican #3854 Low (ROP low) - 1.90A
You didn't state any limitation on bulbs so...
6V-rated, best driven on 7.2V
Pelican #3854 High (ROP high) - 4.15A
Pelican #3854 Low (ROP low) - 1.90A
rikvee
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
No worries Kev, anything popular on CPF should be up there, thank you! :wave:
No worries Kev, anything popular on CPF should be up there, thank you! :wave:
igabo
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Someone should sticky this..
And, sorry to hijack the thread, but how's the brightness on the high efficiency
DRB-9VHP compared to the regular high pressure version?
Someone should sticky this..
And, sorry to hijack the thread, but how's the brightness on the high efficiency
DRB-9VHP compared to the regular high pressure version?
rikvee
Enlightened
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Hi Igabo, the HP G90 is rounder and a tad whiter than the P90, the DRB-9VHP I have never seen.
Perhaps someone can sell me two of those, I can do CC Paypal.... :thanks:
Still need the figures on these ones:
- Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
Hi Igabo, the HP G90 is rounder and a tad whiter than the P90, the DRB-9VHP I have never seen.
Perhaps someone can sell me two of those, I can do CC Paypal.... :thanks:
Still need the figures on these ones:
- Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
- Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
You're welcome
I went and dug up my old notes on Welch Allyn bulbs, using specs culled from their website. I built my own list for planning purposes, thought I'd post it here. All info is from WA and not my own measurements.
Note that lamp life and lumen calculations are measured at nominal voltage (no overdrive).
Part Number: 01111-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 20.1
Current (amps): 3.35
Life (Hours): 100
Lumens: 464.95
Part Number: 01183-U
Voltage: 4.7
Wattage: 18.10
Current (amps): 3.85
Life (Hours): 75
Lumens: 410.92
Part Number: 01185-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 30.24
Current (amps): 3.15
Life (Hours): 50
Lumens: 816.81
Part Number: 01274-U
Voltage: 7.2
Wattage: 19.94
Current (amps): 2.77
Life (Hours): 40
Lumens: 552.92
Part Number: 01318-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 18.53
Current (amps): 1.93
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 534.07
Part Number: 01319-U
Voltage: 4.8
Wattage: 9.22
Current (amps): 1.92
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 203.57
Part Number: 01331-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 18.53
Current (amps): 1.93
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 533.80
Part Number: 01160-U
Voltage: 5.0
Wattage: 17.25
Current (amps): 3.45
Life (Hours): 550
Lumens: 326.72
Part Number: 01164-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 19.68
Current (amps): 3.28
Life (Hours): 2,500
Lumens: 301.44
Part Number: 01165-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 11.22
Current (amps): 1.87
Life (Hours): 75
Lumens: 237.50
Part Number: 01166-U
Voltage: 11.6
Wattage: 22.85
Current (amps): 1.97
Life (Hours): 20
Lumens: 703.36
You're welcome
I went and dug up my old notes on Welch Allyn bulbs, using specs culled from their website. I built my own list for planning purposes, thought I'd post it here. All info is from WA and not my own measurements.
Note that lamp life and lumen calculations are measured at nominal voltage (no overdrive).
Part Number: 01111-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 20.1
Current (amps): 3.35
Life (Hours): 100
Lumens: 464.95
Part Number: 01183-U
Voltage: 4.7
Wattage: 18.10
Current (amps): 3.85
Life (Hours): 75
Lumens: 410.92
Part Number: 01185-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 30.24
Current (amps): 3.15
Life (Hours): 50
Lumens: 816.81
Part Number: 01274-U
Voltage: 7.2
Wattage: 19.94
Current (amps): 2.77
Life (Hours): 40
Lumens: 552.92
Part Number: 01318-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 18.53
Current (amps): 1.93
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 534.07
Part Number: 01319-U
Voltage: 4.8
Wattage: 9.22
Current (amps): 1.92
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 203.57
Part Number: 01331-U
Voltage: 9.6
Wattage: 18.53
Current (amps): 1.93
Life (Hours): 35
Lumens: 533.80
Part Number: 01160-U
Voltage: 5.0
Wattage: 17.25
Current (amps): 3.45
Life (Hours): 550
Lumens: 326.72
Part Number: 01164-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 19.68
Current (amps): 3.28
Life (Hours): 2,500
Lumens: 301.44
Part Number: 01165-U
Voltage: 6.0
Wattage: 11.22
Current (amps): 1.87
Life (Hours): 75
Lumens: 237.50
Part Number: 01166-U
Voltage: 11.6
Wattage: 22.85
Current (amps): 1.97
Life (Hours): 20
Lumens: 703.36
rikvee
Enlightened
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Thanks again, Kevin, list is a bit longer
Thanks again, Kevin, list is a bit longer
KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular globes
Oh yeah, I was reading the list and noticed that your MN11 had a question mark next to it - I thought that one had already been answered, sorry to make you do so many edits.
Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - 2.50A, I just measured on 2x18500.
That should be all the lights I have, the rest of mine are LED/HID with what we affectionately term "non-linear characteristics" (in other words: it can be all over the place )
Your list is an excellent resource.. I always thought the Surefire high output lamps were more in the region of 2.2A, but it seems that measurements on the list and my own numbers indicate that they are all around 2.5A.
Just a humble suggestion.. they call 'em bulbs too, out west.. maybe put that in your subject title/sig so that you get more hits? I'm familiar with the globe reference, having worked with Australians, but not many others are.
Oh yeah, I was reading the list and noticed that your MN11 had a question mark next to it - I thought that one had already been answered, sorry to make you do so many edits.
Surefire MN 11 9V M3 - 2.50A, I just measured on 2x18500.
That should be all the lights I have, the rest of mine are LED/HID with what we affectionately term "non-linear characteristics"
(in other words: it can be all over the place )Your list is an excellent resource.. I always thought the Surefire high output lamps were more in the region of 2.2A, but it seems that measurements on the list and my own numbers indicate that they are all around 2.5A.
Just a humble suggestion.. they call 'em bulbs too, out west.. maybe put that in your subject title/sig so that you get more hits? I'm familiar with the globe reference, having worked with Australians, but not many others are.
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rikvee
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Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular bulbs
Hey, thanks again Kevin "endless edit'' is my middle name, I love it!
- changed title to global speak; I am originally Dutch, have lived in the USA as well, so to tell you the truth, I actually called it globes 'cos I thought that was "American", I already happily miss-spell words like "color" (colour) and "aluminum" (aluminium) for the benefit of the major readership of this forum
- my own reason for this list is for the purpose of using Li-Ion batteries, in fact, is this list right, and could you tell me which other WA bulbs would work with Li-Ions?
ROP 3854 6-7.2V low 1.90A - 2 Li-Ions >950mAh
WA1165 6.0V - 1.87A
WA1306 ? - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1319 4.8V - 1.92A
WA1331 9.6V - 1.93A - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1318 9.6V - 1.93A - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1166 11.6V -1.97A- 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1274 7.2V - 2.77A - 2 Li-Ions >1400mAh
WA1185 9.6V - 3.15A
WA1164 6.0V - 3.28A
WA1111 6.0V - 3.35A
WA1160 5.0V - 3.45A
WA1183 4.7V - 3.85A
ROP 3854 6-7.2V high 4.15A - 2 Li-Ions >2100mAh
Hey, thanks again Kevin "endless edit'' is my middle name, I love it!
- changed title to global speak; I am originally Dutch, have lived in the USA as well, so to tell you the truth, I actually called it globes 'cos I thought that was "American", I already happily miss-spell words like "color" (colour) and "aluminum" (aluminium) for the benefit of the major readership of this forum
- my own reason for this list is for the purpose of using Li-Ion batteries, in fact, is this list right, and could you tell me which other WA bulbs would work with Li-Ions?
ROP 3854 6-7.2V low 1.90A - 2 Li-Ions >950mAh
WA1165 6.0V - 1.87A
WA1306 ? - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1319 4.8V - 1.92A
WA1331 9.6V - 1.93A - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1318 9.6V - 1.93A - 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1166 11.6V -1.97A- 3 Li-Ions >1000mAh
WA1274 7.2V - 2.77A - 2 Li-Ions >1400mAh
WA1185 9.6V - 3.15A
WA1164 6.0V - 3.28A
WA1111 6.0V - 3.35A
WA1160 5.0V - 3.45A
WA1183 4.7V - 3.85A
ROP 3854 6-7.2V high 4.15A - 2 Li-Ions >2100mAh
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KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular bulbs
Your list is mostly correct, however the WA1166 and 1274 are not optimal for lithium ion drive, because lithium ion voltage tends to sag heavily under load, and you won't get the best possible brightness. You can do it, just that it may not be as bright.
I think it was Icebreak who suggested the Mag85 LE, which is 1185 on 3 li-ion cells of 1000mAH and up. Sounds good to me.
The WA1111 is ideal for 2 li-ion, of 1500mAH and up. While searching for a bulb for my Mag 2C lithium ion project (2x18650) I originally considered the WA1111 until I realized the ROP bulb was not only better, it was more convenient, coming in a PR base. So this one can be done, but I prefer the ROP bulb if my cells can take the pounding. Same rationale why I didn't use the WA1164/1165 either.
1319/1183 are good for 4 x NiMH, possibly 4 high current NiMH AAs in a bored and cutdown 1D Mag. This has already been done.
Your list is mostly correct, however the WA1166 and 1274 are not optimal for lithium ion drive, because lithium ion voltage tends to sag heavily under load, and you won't get the best possible brightness. You can do it, just that it may not be as bright.
I think it was Icebreak who suggested the Mag85 LE, which is 1185 on 3 li-ion cells of 1000mAH and up. Sounds good to me.
The WA1111 is ideal for 2 li-ion, of 1500mAH and up. While searching for a bulb for my Mag 2C lithium ion project (2x18650) I originally considered the WA1111 until I realized the ROP bulb was not only better, it was more convenient, coming in a PR base. So this one can be done, but I prefer the ROP bulb if my cells can take the pounding. Same rationale why I didn't use the WA1164/1165 either.
1319/1183 are good for 4 x NiMH, possibly 4 high current NiMH AAs in a bored and cutdown 1D Mag. This has already been done.
rikvee
Enlightened
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular bulbs
Beauty Kevin!
If the WA1185 bulb likes to draw 3.15A, in order to not stress the batts above 2C don't they need to be at least 1600mAh each?
Beauty Kevin!
If the WA1185 bulb likes to draw 3.15A, in order to not stress the batts above 2C don't they need to be at least 1600mAh each?
KevinL
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular bulbs
Oh yeah, mistake in my calculations (see, always double check.. glad you did). I generally go for high capacity 18650s for the superbulbs anyway.. all 2000mAH and up
Oh yeah, mistake in my calculations (see, always double check.. glad you did
). I generally go for high capacity 18650s for the superbulbs anyway.. all 2000mAH and up
rikvee
Enlightened
Re: Help compile a list of Current Draw for popular bulbs
'found the Welch Allyn website, that pretty much lists all the WA bulb specs,
I guess I'll leave my little list up for a quick reference and Li-Ion compatibility.
Anyone who can help me with the current draw on these:
Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
SF MN 60 M4 LOLA - ?
Carley 928 - ?
Superstinger - ?
'found the Welch Allyn website, that pretty much lists all the WA bulb specs,
I guess I'll leave my little list up for a quick reference and Li-Ion compatibility.
Anyone who can help me with the current draw on these:
Wolf-Eyes 12V D36 - ?
Wolf-Eyes 12V M100X - ?
SF MN 60 M4 LOLA - ?
Carley 928 - ?
Superstinger - ?
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