Radio Flyer moving production to China
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Chief executive Robert Pasin, whose grandfather started the company, said he did not believe the move would hurt customer loyalty. ``We're still a Chicago company. We're still a Chicago brand,'' he said.
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Why would U.S. consumers owe loyalty to a Chinese manufacturer simply because their bookkeepers and executives are in the U.S.? It's hard to think of administrative offices as a national resource. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
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Why would U.S. consumers owe loyalty to a Chinese manufacturer simply because their bookkeepers and executives are in the U.S.? It's hard to think of administrative offices as a national resource. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/jpshakehead.gif
The same is happening in the UK and Europe, with thousands of jobs being "outsourced" to India and the Far East. The problem is not just to do with boardroom greed, it's as much to do with shareholder pressure to maintain dividends and consumer (i.e. our) demand for ever cheaper goods. It's something for which we are all, at least partially, responsible in the end /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Big_Ed
Flashlight Enthusiast
Don't we have enough things coming from China? It seems like almost everything in stores (like toys, tools, and yes, even flashlights /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon15.gif) The Radio Flyer is an American classic that is American no more. Whoever made the decision is selling out American workers. Thanks a pantload! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smoker5.gif
PhotonBoy
Flashlight Enthusiast
With increasing manufacturing, 1.5 billion people and greater disposable income, I think China will soon face an environmental disaster. How will they fuel 750 million cars? How will they handle the resulting pollution? Where will their electricity come from? Talk about a nightmare!
Marty Weiner
Flashlight Enthusiast
Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
I just bought a Thomasville bedroom set that retailed for $6,000 and when I got home with the brochure, I noticed in small print that it said "imported" in the description of each piece.
I called the Thomasville store and asked my salesperson where this stuff was made if not in South Carolina (or is it North Carolina) and she admitted that it was CHINA!!!!!
I didn't cancel my order but I'm pondering. Is some underage kid making my bedroom set?
Marty
I just bought a Thomasville bedroom set that retailed for $6,000 and when I got home with the brochure, I noticed in small print that it said "imported" in the description of each piece.
I called the Thomasville store and asked my salesperson where this stuff was made if not in South Carolina (or is it North Carolina) and she admitted that it was CHINA!!!!!
I didn't cancel my order but I'm pondering. Is some underage kid making my bedroom set?
Marty
Lebkuecher
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
We live in a world economy and labor in reality is just a commodity. I have a friend who has a teenage son who is doing nothing to prepare himself for what awaits him when he grows up, just look across the sea at some countries teenagers and they have problems but they are also working much harder to prepare themselves for the future.
Look at our youth and you will see our future as a nation. Not a very pleasant sight in some parts of our country, and you really do not see the laws changing or government doing much to change things. That's why I feel that it is all of our responsibility to encourage people to take care of their kids and to bring them up with a competitive spirit. Nothing makes me sadder then to see a welfare mom having 7 or 8 kids and just living on the system just to see the kids move on into the drug seen and eventually start the cycle all over again. This cost us all and if left unchecked could cost us our standing in the world and our standard of living. The reality is we are already paying a huge price for letting this continue. I'm not trying to be controversial but we have to understand that we are in a world economy and we can ether compete on price of labor or on innovation.
We live in a world economy and labor in reality is just a commodity. I have a friend who has a teenage son who is doing nothing to prepare himself for what awaits him when he grows up, just look across the sea at some countries teenagers and they have problems but they are also working much harder to prepare themselves for the future.
Look at our youth and you will see our future as a nation. Not a very pleasant sight in some parts of our country, and you really do not see the laws changing or government doing much to change things. That's why I feel that it is all of our responsibility to encourage people to take care of their kids and to bring them up with a competitive spirit. Nothing makes me sadder then to see a welfare mom having 7 or 8 kids and just living on the system just to see the kids move on into the drug seen and eventually start the cycle all over again. This cost us all and if left unchecked could cost us our standing in the world and our standard of living. The reality is we are already paying a huge price for letting this continue. I'm not trying to be controversial but we have to understand that we are in a world economy and we can ether compete on price of labor or on innovation.
this_is_nascar
Flashaholic
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
They will continue to do so as long as people buy it and most people will. I have to hunt to find US made things now but in a way it is better since I put more research into purchases. Went to buy a small pair of pliers at Sears and they were made in China so I put them back and left (still haven't bought a small pair yet, been making do with what I have for now).
They will continue to do so as long as people buy it and most people will. I have to hunt to find US made things now but in a way it is better since I put more research into purchases. Went to buy a small pair of pliers at Sears and they were made in China so I put them back and left (still haven't bought a small pair yet, been making do with what I have for now).
BentHeadTX
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
I guess Radio Flyer is now a generic company, just living off their name. When I am out and about purchasing parts, electronics, flashlights and other things...I see where it is made.
As far as Craftsmen tools go, I quit buying the majority of that stuff back in the mid-80's. Went industrial strength and have been happy ever since.
The thing that chaps my butt is when a company outsources to China and the price stays the same! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rant.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif When I figure that out, I just go with another brand. If it is only available from China, I go with a generic company since they are probably made in the same factory.
China states that they are "The World's Factory Floor". Communists controlling a capitalist economy is quite interesting... Maybe they will have the last laugh. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
I guess Radio Flyer is now a generic company, just living off their name. When I am out and about purchasing parts, electronics, flashlights and other things...I see where it is made.
As far as Craftsmen tools go, I quit buying the majority of that stuff back in the mid-80's. Went industrial strength and have been happy ever since.
The thing that chaps my butt is when a company outsources to China and the price stays the same! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/rant.gif /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif When I figure that out, I just go with another brand. If it is only available from China, I go with a generic company since they are probably made in the same factory.
China states that they are "The World's Factory Floor". Communists controlling a capitalist economy is quite interesting... Maybe they will have the last laugh. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
BB
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
My wife and her family are from Taiwan (mainlanders). When I first married her ~18 years ago, they went out of their way to make sure that they did not purchase Made in China or Made in Japan... (her family had American and German made cars, my dad who fought in Europe in WWII had American and Japanese cars, my uncle who fought in the Pacific in WWII would not buy Japanese).
Well, first they started being OK with made in Japan, and over the last 1/2 dozen years, OK with made in China.
Now--her brother does import/manufacturing with China. SF Chinatown is full of Made in China stuff, old folks (not my In-Laws) are retiring in China, investing in China, etc. Things change--Accept change or... what?
When we went to China (and Taiwan) during our honeymoon in the mid 1980's--she was the first from her family that had ever been back to the PRC since 1948.
Regarding manufacturing in China--I am not sure that they have had the last laugh. We are funding their PRC Army as they seem to have their hands in much of the Chinese economy. But, did you realize that while the US lost 2-3 million jobs in the last recession, that China last something like 16 million jobs for exactly the same reasons that the US did (automation, cost reductions, etc.).
I am not "comfortable" with importation--I believe that manufacturing is an important part of our economy. I do believe that the US and State governments are doing their darnedest to make is stupid to employ Americans legally (taxes, insurances, fees, regulations, unions--did I mention taxes? etc.).
As Europe and the US (and much of the 1st and 2nd world) are heading towards socialism, China is heading away even faster (interestingly, Taiwan seems to be heading towards socialism).
Frankly, at this time, I probably worry less about manufacturing jobs being exported... There is a natural limit (costs of infrastructure, transportation overhead, time to ship vs costs to fly, language problems, etc.) to how much can go overseas.
I am much more concerned with those jobs that can be done with a computer and a phone (and to a lesser extent, paperwork). It used to be 20 years ago that communications with India and such was just not reliable enough. Now, that is not a problem. And given that most design work is now electronic--your engineering is now being out-sourced more and more. You name a job, and someone can probably figure out a way to automate and/or outsource some part of it (and save money). Got a doctor apointment? Get a nurse with a TV camera networked to a doctor--somewhere out of reach of malpractice attorneys. We have already seen the Home Depot and other stores with self service checkout four or more registers with one clerk.
And those laws overseas are not nearly as strict as your local laws. We already had a local university hospital getting blackmailed by a medical transcription service in India (threatened to release medical files to the web) because she was not getting paid by the local contractor (who did not tell the customer that the back office work was being contracted overseas). Some parts of your government records, bank records, medical records, customer service, billing, etc. are probably already overseas now... And more is heading out.
I don't have the answers... But I do recommend that you remain light on your feet and save/invest for your retirement (and those in-between job times). Change happens.
-Bill
My wife and her family are from Taiwan (mainlanders). When I first married her ~18 years ago, they went out of their way to make sure that they did not purchase Made in China or Made in Japan... (her family had American and German made cars, my dad who fought in Europe in WWII had American and Japanese cars, my uncle who fought in the Pacific in WWII would not buy Japanese).
Well, first they started being OK with made in Japan, and over the last 1/2 dozen years, OK with made in China.
Now--her brother does import/manufacturing with China. SF Chinatown is full of Made in China stuff, old folks (not my In-Laws) are retiring in China, investing in China, etc. Things change--Accept change or... what?
When we went to China (and Taiwan) during our honeymoon in the mid 1980's--she was the first from her family that had ever been back to the PRC since 1948.
Regarding manufacturing in China--I am not sure that they have had the last laugh. We are funding their PRC Army as they seem to have their hands in much of the Chinese economy. But, did you realize that while the US lost 2-3 million jobs in the last recession, that China last something like 16 million jobs for exactly the same reasons that the US did (automation, cost reductions, etc.).
I am not "comfortable" with importation--I believe that manufacturing is an important part of our economy. I do believe that the US and State governments are doing their darnedest to make is stupid to employ Americans legally (taxes, insurances, fees, regulations, unions--did I mention taxes? etc.).
As Europe and the US (and much of the 1st and 2nd world) are heading towards socialism, China is heading away even faster (interestingly, Taiwan seems to be heading towards socialism).
Frankly, at this time, I probably worry less about manufacturing jobs being exported... There is a natural limit (costs of infrastructure, transportation overhead, time to ship vs costs to fly, language problems, etc.) to how much can go overseas.
I am much more concerned with those jobs that can be done with a computer and a phone (and to a lesser extent, paperwork). It used to be 20 years ago that communications with India and such was just not reliable enough. Now, that is not a problem. And given that most design work is now electronic--your engineering is now being out-sourced more and more. You name a job, and someone can probably figure out a way to automate and/or outsource some part of it (and save money). Got a doctor apointment? Get a nurse with a TV camera networked to a doctor--somewhere out of reach of malpractice attorneys. We have already seen the Home Depot and other stores with self service checkout four or more registers with one clerk.
And those laws overseas are not nearly as strict as your local laws. We already had a local university hospital getting blackmailed by a medical transcription service in India (threatened to release medical files to the web) because she was not getting paid by the local contractor (who did not tell the customer that the back office work was being contracted overseas). Some parts of your government records, bank records, medical records, customer service, billing, etc. are probably already overseas now... And more is heading out.
I don't have the answers... But I do recommend that you remain light on your feet and save/invest for your retirement (and those in-between job times). Change happens.
-Bill
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
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this_is_nascar said:
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
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This country isn't in the condition it is in because Radio Flyer is moving production to china, they're moving because of the condition the country is in.
I have worked for a few companies who have or will be moving prodution overseas, and for anyone that has ever worked in a manufacturing environment, you know that is probably the only way to survive these days. How can you compete with people who will work 5 times harder, 5 times longer, and for 1/10 the price? Can you honestly say you don't see the logic in this? People are always complaining about how foreigners are taking away all the american jobs, but in reality is the american people who aren't willing to work for the jobs they have. One recent example, the grocery workers strike. With unemployment at a high and hundreds of thousands out of a job, PhD's and Masters willing to work for half of what a high school graduate grocery checker is making, and the supermaket workers want to strike. Times are tough, and there's always going to be someone who's willing to do your work at a price that you don't want to work for. It's just natural selection at work, you either change or you die. Better to have radio flyer move production overseas and maybe keep a few jobs here than to just have them disappear completely and a new completely foriegn company take their place.
I happened to be unemployed for a while, but I won't blame the company for trying to stay competitive. Business is business. Unless you own a manufacturing company that can survive without moving overseas, then you really don't know how impossible it is. The problem just isn't cost, the problem is ego. We think we're the greatest country, that we're the smartest, we deserve insane amounts of money for the job we do, that we're the superlative of everything, and people should be willin to pay 10x the price for our products just because it's made in "the good ol' U.S. of A", then every other country is going to sit back and watch us blow our own horn, while they quietly make their products better, faster, and cheaper. And by the time we realize what's going on, it's too late, they've already gotten our jobs. It's happened with automobiles, with electronics, with IT, and it's going to keep happening until the American people get over their pride and attitude and quit complaining.
Kinda makes you look at Mag instruments in a new light now, doesn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Still staying very competitive in very difficult times and keeping manufacturing in the U.S, yet some people refuse to buy their products but complain about people not supporting the american economy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
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this_is_nascar said:
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
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This country isn't in the condition it is in because Radio Flyer is moving production to china, they're moving because of the condition the country is in.
I have worked for a few companies who have or will be moving prodution overseas, and for anyone that has ever worked in a manufacturing environment, you know that is probably the only way to survive these days. How can you compete with people who will work 5 times harder, 5 times longer, and for 1/10 the price? Can you honestly say you don't see the logic in this? People are always complaining about how foreigners are taking away all the american jobs, but in reality is the american people who aren't willing to work for the jobs they have. One recent example, the grocery workers strike. With unemployment at a high and hundreds of thousands out of a job, PhD's and Masters willing to work for half of what a high school graduate grocery checker is making, and the supermaket workers want to strike. Times are tough, and there's always going to be someone who's willing to do your work at a price that you don't want to work for. It's just natural selection at work, you either change or you die. Better to have radio flyer move production overseas and maybe keep a few jobs here than to just have them disappear completely and a new completely foriegn company take their place.
I happened to be unemployed for a while, but I won't blame the company for trying to stay competitive. Business is business. Unless you own a manufacturing company that can survive without moving overseas, then you really don't know how impossible it is. The problem just isn't cost, the problem is ego. We think we're the greatest country, that we're the smartest, we deserve insane amounts of money for the job we do, that we're the superlative of everything, and people should be willin to pay 10x the price for our products just because it's made in "the good ol' U.S. of A", then every other country is going to sit back and watch us blow our own horn, while they quietly make their products better, faster, and cheaper. And by the time we realize what's going on, it's too late, they've already gotten our jobs. It's happened with automobiles, with electronics, with IT, and it's going to keep happening until the American people get over their pride and attitude and quit complaining.
Kinda makes you look at Mag instruments in a new light now, doesn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Still staying very competitive in very difficult times and keeping manufacturing in the U.S, yet some people refuse to buy their products but complain about people not supporting the american economy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
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Muppet said:
How many of the goods in your house were made in China, Ed? Would you be willing to pay 2x or 3x the price to have those same items made in America?
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Speaking only for myself. I always look to buy US made products, even if that means paying more.
Raven
Muppet said:
How many of the goods in your house were made in China, Ed? Would you be willing to pay 2x or 3x the price to have those same items made in America?
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Speaking only for myself. I always look to buy US made products, even if that means paying more.
Raven
this_is_nascar
Flashaholic
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
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InTheDark said:
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this_is_nascar said:
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
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This country isn't in the condition it is in because Radio Flyer is moving production to china, they're moving because of the condition the country is in.
I have worked for a few companies who have or will be moving prodution overseas, and for anyone that has ever worked in a manufacturing environment, you know that is probably the only way to survive these days. How can you compete with people who will work 5 times harder, 5 times longer, and for 1/10 the price? Can you honestly say you don't see the logic in this? People are always complaining about how foreigners are taking away all the american jobs, but in reality is the american people who aren't willing to work for the jobs they have. One recent example, the grocery workers strike. With unemployment at a high and hundreds of thousands out of a job, PhD's and Masters willing to work for half of what a high school graduate grocery checker is making, and the supermaket workers want to strike. Times are tough, and there's always going to be someone who's willing to do your work at a price that you don't want to work for. It's just natural selection at work, you either change or you die. Better to have radio flyer move production overseas and maybe keep a few jobs here than to just have them disappear completely and a new completely foriegn company take their place.
I happened to be unemployed for a while, but I won't blame the company for trying to stay competitive. Business is business. Unless you own a manufacturing company that can survive without moving overseas, then you really don't know how impossible it is. The problem just isn't cost, the problem is ego. We think we're the greatest country, that we're the smartest, we deserve insane amounts of money for the job we do, that we're the superlative of everything, and people should be willin to pay 10x the price for our products just because it's made in "the good ol' U.S. of A", then every other country is going to sit back and watch us blow our own horn, while they quietly make their products better, faster, and cheaper. And by the time we realize what's going on, it's too late, they've already gotten our jobs. It's happened with automobiles, with electronics, with IT, and it's going to keep happening until the American people get over their pride and attitude and quit complaining.
Kinda makes you look at Mag instruments in a new light now, doesn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Still staying very competitive in very difficult times and keeping manufacturing in the U.S, yet some people refuse to buy their products but complain about people not supporting the american economy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
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I understand your point, however I still hold true to mine. How in the world could an US worker agree to work for wages that these oversees people get? With the cost of living in the US, it would be impossible. I do agree that labor costs oversees are cheaper, but there's a reason for that. How about 12-year old girls working in the sewing shops for 18-hours a day? Of course the US worker can compete with this. I fault these big companies seeking oversees help when they're well aware of these conditions.
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InTheDark said:
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this_is_nascar said:
This is one of the many reasons that this country is in the condition it is? How dare them take an American traditional and move production oversees. They can kiss my red, white and blue American a**.
[/ QUOTE ]
This country isn't in the condition it is in because Radio Flyer is moving production to china, they're moving because of the condition the country is in.
I have worked for a few companies who have or will be moving prodution overseas, and for anyone that has ever worked in a manufacturing environment, you know that is probably the only way to survive these days. How can you compete with people who will work 5 times harder, 5 times longer, and for 1/10 the price? Can you honestly say you don't see the logic in this? People are always complaining about how foreigners are taking away all the american jobs, but in reality is the american people who aren't willing to work for the jobs they have. One recent example, the grocery workers strike. With unemployment at a high and hundreds of thousands out of a job, PhD's and Masters willing to work for half of what a high school graduate grocery checker is making, and the supermaket workers want to strike. Times are tough, and there's always going to be someone who's willing to do your work at a price that you don't want to work for. It's just natural selection at work, you either change or you die. Better to have radio flyer move production overseas and maybe keep a few jobs here than to just have them disappear completely and a new completely foriegn company take their place.
I happened to be unemployed for a while, but I won't blame the company for trying to stay competitive. Business is business. Unless you own a manufacturing company that can survive without moving overseas, then you really don't know how impossible it is. The problem just isn't cost, the problem is ego. We think we're the greatest country, that we're the smartest, we deserve insane amounts of money for the job we do, that we're the superlative of everything, and people should be willin to pay 10x the price for our products just because it's made in "the good ol' U.S. of A", then every other country is going to sit back and watch us blow our own horn, while they quietly make their products better, faster, and cheaper. And by the time we realize what's going on, it's too late, they've already gotten our jobs. It's happened with automobiles, with electronics, with IT, and it's going to keep happening until the American people get over their pride and attitude and quit complaining.
Kinda makes you look at Mag instruments in a new light now, doesn't it? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif Still staying very competitive in very difficult times and keeping manufacturing in the U.S, yet some people refuse to buy their products but complain about people not supporting the american economy. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/icon3.gif
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I understand your point, however I still hold true to mine. How in the world could an US worker agree to work for wages that these oversees people get? With the cost of living in the US, it would be impossible. I do agree that labor costs oversees are cheaper, but there's a reason for that. How about 12-year old girls working in the sewing shops for 18-hours a day? Of course the US worker can compete with this. I fault these big companies seeking oversees help when they're well aware of these conditions.
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
The problem I'm having sometimes is finding American made products. Needed a lock for my shed, went to Lowes, Home Depot, Ace, Sears every singe lock brand was made in China. Tried a search on the internet, couldn't find any. I don't mind paying a bit extra for US made stuff and usually I end up with better quality in the process. I know of a lot of people who end up buying the same things over and over again because they thought they were saving money buying cheap up front.
The problem I'm having sometimes is finding American made products. Needed a lock for my shed, went to Lowes, Home Depot, Ace, Sears every singe lock brand was made in China. Tried a search on the internet, couldn't find any. I don't mind paying a bit extra for US made stuff and usually I end up with better quality in the process. I know of a lot of people who end up buying the same things over and over again because they thought they were saving money buying cheap up front.
Big_Ed
Flashlight Enthusiast
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
Muppet,
I, just like Raven ALWAYS look for the Made In USA label. I know it's not always possible to find American made products (electronics for example), but I would rather support my American neighbors than foreign people who are taking away our jobs. Even if that means paying a lot more for it. It's one of my core principals, and one of the ways I show my patriotism. I'm tired of seeing "made in China" on half of the products in stores. It makes me sick! I realize that it's a global economy, but if we Americans don't watch where our products that we buy are made then eventually the jobs here will dry up. Those people will be more competition for those other Americans already out of work. I've always believed that if you like having a job, keep buying American-Made products. There's no way that I feel it's better for America for us to buy foreign products. It seems like a short term outlook to buy foreign products. Sure, you may save money buying foreign goods, and sometimes you have to (either because you simply can't afford to buy American, or there's no American option), but I feel that in the long run America would be better off if we bought American instead of foreign.
I openly admit I don't know much about economics, and I'm sure companies are adding to their bottom lines by shipping jobs overseas, but I vote with my dollar, and I would rather my dollar stay in America and put food on an American's table. BUY AMERICAN!
Muppet,
I, just like Raven ALWAYS look for the Made In USA label. I know it's not always possible to find American made products (electronics for example), but I would rather support my American neighbors than foreign people who are taking away our jobs. Even if that means paying a lot more for it. It's one of my core principals, and one of the ways I show my patriotism. I'm tired of seeing "made in China" on half of the products in stores. It makes me sick! I realize that it's a global economy, but if we Americans don't watch where our products that we buy are made then eventually the jobs here will dry up. Those people will be more competition for those other Americans already out of work. I've always believed that if you like having a job, keep buying American-Made products. There's no way that I feel it's better for America for us to buy foreign products. It seems like a short term outlook to buy foreign products. Sure, you may save money buying foreign goods, and sometimes you have to (either because you simply can't afford to buy American, or there's no American option), but I feel that in the long run America would be better off if we bought American instead of foreign.
I openly admit I don't know much about economics, and I'm sure companies are adding to their bottom lines by shipping jobs overseas, but I vote with my dollar, and I would rather my dollar stay in America and put food on an American's table. BUY AMERICAN!
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
I'm not sure what to think of the title change after my post, but I'll overlook that. But I guess I should've known what to expect from someone who has "Nascar" in their screenname.
I've started a very similar topic a long time ago, but the fact is you shouldn't need to have to think "buy american". Most people don't have the luxury of spending more money in order to support what they think are "American" companies. If you've got two kids, mortgage payments, car payment, insurance payments, and all the other bills that most people face on a limited income, paying more for goods just isn't something you want to do. People should just buy the best value, and hopefully that product will be made in america. The best value isn't neccessarily the cheapest, but the one that will give you the most use for your dollar. But one look at any reliability and depreciation ratings for used cars will tell you something about that.
I'm not sure what to think of the title change after my post, but I'll overlook that. But I guess I should've known what to expect from someone who has "Nascar" in their screenname.
I've started a very similar topic a long time ago, but the fact is you shouldn't need to have to think "buy american". Most people don't have the luxury of spending more money in order to support what they think are "American" companies. If you've got two kids, mortgage payments, car payment, insurance payments, and all the other bills that most people face on a limited income, paying more for goods just isn't something you want to do. People should just buy the best value, and hopefully that product will be made in america. The best value isn't neccessarily the cheapest, but the one that will give you the most use for your dollar. But one look at any reliability and depreciation ratings for used cars will tell you something about that.
this_is_nascar
Flashaholic
Re: Radio Flyer isn\'t the only thing made in China
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InTheDark said:
I'm not sure what to think of the title change after my post, but I'll overlook that. But I guess I should've known what to expect from someone who has "Nascar" in their screenname.
I've started a very similar topic a long time ago, but the fact is you shouldn't need to have to think "buy american". Most people don't have the luxury of spending more money in order to support what they think are "American" companies. If you've got two kids, mortgage payments, car payment, insurance payments, and all the other bills that most people face on a limited income, paying more for goods just isn't something you want to do. People should just buy the best value, and hopefully that product will be made in america. The best value isn't neccessarily the cheapest, but the one that will give you the most use for your dollar. But one look at any reliability and depreciation ratings for used cars will tell you something about that.
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I don't appreciate your accusation that I change your subject line. Understand the facts before making false accusation.
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InTheDark said:
I'm not sure what to think of the title change after my post, but I'll overlook that. But I guess I should've known what to expect from someone who has "Nascar" in their screenname.
I've started a very similar topic a long time ago, but the fact is you shouldn't need to have to think "buy american". Most people don't have the luxury of spending more money in order to support what they think are "American" companies. If you've got two kids, mortgage payments, car payment, insurance payments, and all the other bills that most people face on a limited income, paying more for goods just isn't something you want to do. People should just buy the best value, and hopefully that product will be made in america. The best value isn't neccessarily the cheapest, but the one that will give you the most use for your dollar. But one look at any reliability and depreciation ratings for used cars will tell you something about that.
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I don't appreciate your accusation that I change your subject line. Understand the facts before making false accusation.
