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ssanasisredna

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The Voightlander 58mm f/1.4 is sharper than the ZEISS 50mm. Plus the Voightlander is chipped so just like the Nikon P series lenses talks with the body.

It's probably sacrilegious to even say it, but wide open, the Sigma 50mm/1.4 is sharper than the Zeiss 50mm once you get outside the center. Very good sharpness across the whole field wide open.
 

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75mm and fast, a $100 portrait lens..

Well it sounds fast, but remember that F1.8 on an APC does not behave the same as F1.8 on full frame. That is something that many a professional photographer does not know.

Not only is the depth of field of a 75mm/F1.8 FF not the same as a 50mm/F1.8 APS-C, but the light gathering on the full frame is much larger. For a given number of pixels, the F1.8 on the full-frame is going to have quite a bit more signal to noise ratio at the same shutter speed versus an F1.8 on an APS-C.

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Like you I use manual for macros, but rarely use manual for anything else. It's usually easier to just move the autofocus point and let the camera do its work. I hated taking pictures of people before autofocus. They move too much!! The touch screen on the D5500 is great for quickly picking the focus point.

There are times in crowded situations where I use manual focus at a distance as well. The shot that comes to mind was a gold finch I had watched building a nest and when it finally decided it was finished I wanted a photo of it peeking out from its camoflauge of a cluttered walnut tree branch. Another was a momma downy woodpecker feeding its youngan on a branch of an oak tree surrounded with lots of little branches and twigs. My auto focus kept guessing the wrong places to focus on and I was using a very shallow depth of field setting. Little ole birdy aint gonna sit around all day waiting for the Nikon to guess correctly so I just flip my little switch off when it's close and tweak it from there.

If I did architecture, re-enactments and outdoor landscapes of epic proportions I'd probably get squeemish about a little blur at the edges. Instead I use my gear for what it does. Knowing the little flaws are present I take that into account and rarely shoot above an f/8 anyway. And if I do the edges are either framed as such or typically treated to a vignette post camera.

Cannot speak for current Shutterbug Magazine but at one point they had excersizes to try. Take your camera to your back yard, mark out a 10'x10' area and spend an hour snapping pictures of that area. Minimum 25 photos. Or the one where you take your top 10 most recent botched shots and tailor them post camera to keepers. Using grayscale, blurring and what-not some really awful blowouts, chopped off heads and such can be made into pretty cool photos.

I saw a bunch of micro niche latest fads type mags compete with the big companies for what crumbs of ad $ remained and thought "man these guys are gonna be gone in two years. Too bad they'll take folks like Popular Photography down with them along the way".

RIP this thread. :tired:
 
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Phone users dont want to learn to be better photographers. They want their cell phone to take great pictures which will not happen. The cell phone superior optics and exposure will never replace a dslr or mirrorless digital camera. Cell phone users want the easy way.
 

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But if the picture were from ~15 years ago, you'd have a few people with cameras, a few disposable cameras in there, and that'd be it; every single person in the photo is taking pictures - photography is more popular than ever, just not with a camera.
 

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photography is more popular than ever, just not with a camera.
They're all using a camera, but not traditional cameras. They live and breath 2x2" Instagram and Twitter pics. Pics that will mean nothing to them in a few days or weeks. How many people transferred files from old computers to the new computer that you had to have because you ran out of space?

Today's throwaway generation hasn't figured out that memories fade. Photography allows for that recollection to remain as long as the media survives.

We've gone from Daguerreotype, to black and white film, to color negative and slide film, to home 8 and 16 mm movies, to Beta and VHS, and to now, digital.

Photography still exists, the medium evolves.
 

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Again,

An early prediction of mine in my notes from 1999, was that many historical photos will be lost for the very reasons you mention, and that includes news outlets. They will just disappear, while you had to throw away Negs. And that required some thinking. I have an archive in the multi-millions of both film negatives from the various formats of film As well as digital. I have in my archives, stored in a special facility that holds every photo and image I have taken from the 5th grade until a few minutes ago.

And the phone shooters and GWC's, remember, GWC, that is out slang for guy/girl with camera, (and of course zero knowledge)!

Your thinking is spot on. I hate selfies, they are banned along with cell phones at all the major red carpet events I cover, as well as most worldwide, and if you tried to take one with Obama, you would be escorted off the site, even now out of office. Trump, not so much he is a little cooler on them with people. A little. And that policy may have have just changed as it ties up the rope line.

Maybe the magazine folded due to the fact that this generation is obsessed with taking photos of themselves, over and over and over, and their thinking was they will never reach any of them with any kind of real photography. While it was a good magazine, it was geared toward the hobby-enthusiast, and not professionals.

Plus, they never said one bad word on any camera review no matter how awful it was in fear of the loss of advertising dollars from the camera companies at a time when there were several camera publications worldwide. It was if every camera they tested was the one to have. All the photo magazines were that way. Unlike say motorcycle magazines which do real tests and reviews then report both the good, and bad about the product.
 
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Phone users dont want to learn to be better photographers. They want their cell phone to take great pictures which will not happen. The cell phone superior optics and exposure will never replace a dslr or mirrorless digital camera. Cell phone users want the easy way.
Give them time, I saw the first camera phone at the Emmys in 2005, or 06 from Nokia. That is not long ago at all. DSLR sales will never be what they were, as only true working professionals who turn good profits and very serious amateurs with money will buy them. The little point and shoot cameras will be the first to go, and you can see that taking place already. When do you see anyone with a smart phone and a digital point and shoot? You don't!

After that, at little slower pace will go digital zooms (like a small DSLR, with non removeable lens). They will stay around for amatures who want to exercise some control over the camera. They have some life left, we'll have to wait and see on digital zooms. They are safe for now, but mini DSLR cameras have a future because they have removeable lenseses, and that is everything in photography, being able to change lenses. I still feel professionals will want the full size DSLRs

But, you never know does anyone rember the APS the Advanved Photo System that was released to the public on the eve of digital cameras? You can't even do anything with APS negatives because the machines that remove the film and put it back in the canister don't exist today. The entire photo industry failed in the release of the APS system it was a huge embarrassment to them, and for good reason - they knew digital was arriving soon, yet the went ahead with it just the same.

One of the largest failures of an entire well established worldwide industry in history, as the major companies met to set the APS standards all together. Labs invested $200,000 for the machines to work the APS system, then overnight, digital came along with personal printers, and that was the death of the mini labs as we knew them. They all sunk like the Titanic.

Print media now quite a bit does not send a writer/photographer team as was the decades long standard tradition, today often, the writer just takes the photos with their phone. And even worse staff photographers are often required to shoot both video and stills together covering an event. They all hate it, and both mediums suffer as a result. You can't properly cover an event that way. You would have trouble even staging parts of it, which is then no longer honest journalistic coverage. I have agents so I am never put in that position, I only shoot stills, and always will.

Smart phone cameras are here to stay for better or worse. And they will only get better.

And why can't I have a DSLR that transmits my images? Imagine every click and they are sent to my agents in New York, LA, Paris, and Germany. Or a client could get them on their computer instantly. You could shoot any job and just send them to your server at the same time for your archives and when you leave the event, just go home.
 
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And why can't I have a DSLR that transmits my images? Imagine every click and they are sent to my agents in New York, LA, Paris, and Germany. Or a client could get them on their computer instantly. You could shoot any job and just send them to your server at the same time for your archives and when you leave the event, just go home.

Well, Nikon has their half arse program on the D500 called Snap Bridge that does just that.

If I shoot tethered to my D3x or D4s, I can automatically send to Photobucket, iCloud or Dropbox.

I don't think I'd ever want anyone access to unedited work until I view what I've got and if I'm willing to share, market, or price.

The local newspaper uses freelance photographers exclusively. They are expected to shoot stills and video, but atleast not 4K. Like you, I've got zero interest in video. You want video, hire a videographer.
 

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I'll admit, I hardly touch my DSLR and camera gear anymore. I do a lot with my iPhone 6S (and 5 when I had it). Of course, it's small, light, and always with me. So on backpacking trips I come home with hundreds of photos every time. Of course the quality isn't the same, but it's to a point where 9/10 shots are "good enough". I have 5 nice prints on my office wall and people always come in and rave about them. I tell them to pick the 1 that wasn't shot on my iPhone and no one can tell.

I like to open the .jpg from my iPhone in camera raw. It allows for some good control without overdoing it (I'm tired of the acid-tripping drunk HDR and filters look) or losing much quality.

A camera is just like a knife: the best one is the one that you have with you when you need it. At $550 and the fact that thing contains "my life", that darn phone isn't leaving my sight!!

But after all that, it's a great feeling to break out the Canon and good L glass to take some killer shots.
 

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Not again,

It sounds as you are just posting to photos sites, and not to an agency or wire service. And there is a major diffference in both of those things. It is DEADLINE.

We know now about Nikon's less than desirable system. My IT person thought it is laughable junk.

How would I shoot three cameras on the fly at a major event, often on the move with other photographers, publicists, security, and the rest with a wired up system? Impossible! The bad word in all of this is tethered, or weak transmission signals of wireless to a computer. No photojournalist would even consider this, even in a press room. That is for studio use, and we have a system for that in my NY/LA grade of studio. As far as having the need to look at your own work, that is because you were never a film photographer, I wager, where editors looked at all the chromes, (Slides for those who don't know), that is the way it was.

But, guess what if you have worked with editors, you will know they don't care about the bad photos which we all take, they understand how hard it is to, come back with good photos from difficult major events. I work on the worldwide level, and some of the things I shoot I have 5 seconds to capture something, so if a few bad looking ones are sent out, it is understood by all editors.

If you are going to work in a creative field, you have to learn not to let that kind of thing worry you. If you can't send the good with the bad in a transmission system, the type I desire, or to just send them all in E-mail or a Dropbox system to an agent or agency, I doubt you are a working professional, not every shot you take will be an award winner. One of the reasons we overshoot things.

If you shoot a major event with people on every continent waiting with deadlines for the images, and want to look thru all your images, well, you can't, deadlines are everything, always have been, always will. If you have the time to dump some, fine that is OK as it saves the editors a little time. However, that is rare for me to have the time to do my own rough edit.

I have met photographers who submit like a dozen images and dump the rest. Thing is they are not really professionals' anyway. Frankly, if you are a journalist, editors will pick the photos you hate the most, so never delete anything being submitted, if you must then do out of focus, exposure problems they would be ok, however, that slows down your transmission time.

I had had the chance to work with some of the best editors in the magazine industry, in LA, New York, Paris and I pass this along to maybe keep others from thinking every professional's shutter release in anyway means each of the photos will be selected as good or useable has no idea how photos, good photos, go from viewfinder to a person seeing it in a magazine, book, internet or whatever medium of quality.

Publishing is a collaborative art, you can't do it all if you want to be a professional and are afraid to have your work judged by editors, you will have all your work suffer, have a loss of creative thinking, over think things and have your work suffer as a result, and won't make the cut. It is very difficult.

Once the the editors select your photo the photoshop artists will take over from there, and go over them, at least for editorial work, and only levels and color for journalism or hard news, as you have to be careful doing anything to news photos.

Hope this helps as we need more good professionals, who are well equipped, and know what they are doing with confidence who can get in there and bring us the world each day. Remember Walter Cronkite's words that 'Photographs can tell a better story than the written word.'

Good Luck,

RL
 
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I'll admit, I hardly touch my DSLR and camera gear anymore. I do a lot with my iPhone 6S (and 5 when I had it). Of course, it's small, light, and always with me. So on backpacking trips I come home with hundreds of photos every time. Of course the quality isn't the same, but it's to a point where 9/10 shots are "good enough". I have 5 nice prints on my office wall and people always come in and rave about them. I tell them to pick the 1 that wasn't shot on my iPhone and no one can tell.

I like to open the .jpg from my iPhone in camera raw. It allows for some good control without overdoing it (I'm tired of the acid-tripping drunk HDR and filters look) or losing much quality.

A camera is just like a knife: the best one is the one that you have with you when you need it. At $550 and the fact that thing contains "my life", that darn phone isn't leaving my sight!!

But after all that, it's a great feeling to break out the Canon and good L glass to take some killer shots.

I do the same thing at my photo office, I have photos shot with a Cell. Phone and the latest Nikon, and it is hard to tell them apart from one another. We are in a state of constant transition and will be for the foreseeable future. I would sure miss using my DSLR system, just as I miss my medium format Hasselblad system. What an amazing system and the fun of using it under pressure, as it had so many steps you had to follow in the exact order, or that was it. NO photos for you!
 

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Good to read those tips Red.
I did some photo work for my job on a couple of projects where the "editor" was a bull headed knucklehead who wouldn't know a good photo if it hit him on the head. So yeah the stuff he picked would usually cause me to shake my head in disgust.

Speaking of shaking my head in disgust, yeah those acid trip HDR's... I'll be glad when that fad is over. But the wife used to subscribe to a famous outdoor photo mag and each month the cover photo was another ridiculous attempt at concoting a mountain scape using exagerated sunset colors that even in the most polluted cities are not possible. Luckily it was only 6 issues a year.
But I have a friend who uses HDR for B&W photos of old buildings, rail roads and other subjects in a tasteful approach that mimics pencil sketch drawings. He does some brilliant work.

On my office walls (when I actually have one temporarily) are some favs I print with laser jet copiers on office paper, usually in black n white. A closeup of a guy grinding his skateboard truck on a half pipe coping, or an eagle looking at you with a face that says "wuthehell you lookin at buster" along with a severely blown out background of a rose macro or a neighbor catching a baseball all look pretty cool yet blend in the scenery, and I don't have to hear "you know how much ink that photo used?" from some penny pinching Engineer.

At one point I was buying $2 wall clocks and replacing the cardboard face with photos like that. They were a huge hit as Christmas presents.

This thread caused me to use my DSLR stuff lately.

I think if Popular Photography were able to think outside the box and embrace current technology from the mind of the current crop of photo-graphic aspects and not stuck to the 1970's thinking they'd still be around. Albiet, a much smaller version than the hey-days of times when the internet was seen as a fad.

It's a brave new world and Christopher Columbus needs to adapt to petroleum powered propulsion. Sails are great for a few purists but outboard motors are here to stay. So are cel phone cams. Too many companies that are "too big to fail" need to do just that in my view. Fail. The automobile ruined horse n buggy based businesses that couldn't (or wouldn't) adapt so this is nothing new. But hey... Rayovac and Eveready are still around. Ford is doing ok, Brinks is still around along with Wells Fargo... and Shutterbug magazine is doing just fine.
 
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Not again,

It sounds as you are just posting to photos sites, and not to an agency or wire service. And there is a major diffference in both of those things. It is DEADLINE.

We know now about Nikon's less than desirable system. My IT person thought it is laughable junk.

How would I shoot three cameras on the fly at a major event, often on the move with other photographers, publicists, security, and the rest with a wired up system? Impossible! The bad word in all of this is tethered, or weak transmission signals of wireless to a computer. As far as having the need to look at your own work, that is because you were never a film photographer, I wager, where editors looked at all the chromes, (Slides for those who don't know), that is the way it was.

If you are going to work in a creative field, you have to learn not to let that kind of thing worry you. If you can't send the good with the bad in a transmission system, the type I desire, or to just send them all in E-mail or a Dropbox system to an agent or agency, I doubt you are a working professional, not every shot you take will be an award winner. One of the reasons we overshoot things.

If you shoot a major event with people on every continent waiting with deadlines for the images, and want to look thru all your images, well, you can't, deadlines are everything, always have been, always will. If you have the time to dump some, fine that is OK as it saves the editors a little time. However, that is rare for me to have the time to do my own rough edit.

Good Luck,

RL

I use Dropbox and iCloud as storage locations. I don't have a dozen images posted on Flickr.

No, I'm a long time film guy. F2Hs, F3hp, F4's and Mamiya 645 and RB67.

I'm not on deadlines, at least not having someone hounding me for any image for a public event.

I was a very adopter of the Nikon/Kodak DCS460 camera. I'd still rather shoot film, knowing that the exposures have to be right, unlike boost the ISO of digital RAW.

Photography was something I wanted to do. Working in my industry, aerospace, getting clearance and review for 99% of what was shot, was the norm. Every roll of film was signed out and had to be pressed by them in house before classification review. Digital has unique security challenges in classified environments, which was why they stuck with film for so long.

Today, other than subjects I find interesting, everything I shoot is documenting design, assembly/fabrication and sellable product. I've got no IT guy, director, or graphic artist. It's all me.
 

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I think if Popular Photography were able to think outside the box and embrace current technology from the mind of the current crop of photo-graphic aspects and not stuck to the 1970's thinking they'd still be around. Albiet, a much smaller version than the hey-days of times when the internet was seen as a fad.

It's a brave new world and Christopher Columbus needs to adapt to petroleum powered propulsion. Sails are great for a few purists but outboard motors are here to stay. So are cel phone cams. Too many companies that are "too big to fail" need to do just that in my view. Fail.

Millennials don't do magazines.

Big sales of compact cameras were what made the limited-production SLR cameras possible, now that those compact cameras are gone, you may very well get your wish for camera companies to go away..
 

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