Who got their LD01 Stainless Steel?

[dioragry]

yea..
they are not the 10450 cells..
those are AA size..
10440 are AAA size..
AFAIK there are no protected 10440 cells yet..

 

[Splunk_Au]

Yeah 10440 are just to small to make implementing a protection circuit worth it. The extra space would reduce the already abysmal capacity of a 10440.

If you want protection for a 10440, you need one built into the flashlights electronics like the one in the LiteFlux LF2X.

 

[dioragry]

never knew that..
but wont it be kinda dangerous if we overcharge the 10440 batteries?

 

[Sgt. LED]

I think it is partly camera angle.. check the shiny line around the SS bezel that extends on the lower right side and vanishes upper left.

Yeah it's those straight on downward angles that trick our eyes.

 

[download]

It is really off & 10450.

 

[fineday]

Yeah I have also seen some reports about flicker on low or automatically jumps from low to high. About 4~5 people have reported this.

But also they said the efficiency and output is great.

The only thing that I'm wondering is that L01D can use both Li-ion and AAA alkaline, for 10440 is too small to apply any protect circuit, how can L01D SS protect those Li-ion batteries? Li-ion batteries may be dangerous when over-ran, however a serieously over-ran Li-ion's voltage may still higher than alkalines, so... Due to this problem I have not bought any AAA lights.


Well, by the way, I ordered a Jetbeam E3P. May arrive on next Monday. Can't wait. I'll post pictures and mini-review right then. I don't like shiny SS very much but do like ... How to describe the surface that has much "fur"?

 

[Nake]

It is really off & 10450.

I've never seen one marked as 10450. I have had ones that measured 43mm and 45mm but were still marked as 10440.

 

[4sevens]

never knew that..
but wont it be kinda dangerous if we overcharge the 10440 batteries?

Ok, I've mentioned this in the past many times (probably 6 months apart),
the L0D/LD01 was NEVER designed to take Li-ions and you should NEVER do it
even though people here report doing this. Here are the following reasons:

1) Risk explosion - damage to you or those around you. The li-ion cell is
dangerous (protected or unprotected). It is not a consumer product.
If there were a short, so much energy would be released in such a short time
that the cell will destroy itself from overheating. AND if it's confined in
a sealed casing, it CAN and WILL explode! JUST DONT DO IT!

2) the AAA format may be small but the energy density is just the same.
People ask why we don't carry the AAA cell. Well firstly there is no way
to include a protection circuit - there just isn't enough space. Using an
unprotected cell is just plain dumb. I've experimented enough to tell you
that it's not a consumer product. "it's all fun and games until someone loses
an eye." Another risk is people putting these AAA cells into walkmans and
remotes. POOF.

3) If you leave them on, the light will overheat - there simply isn't enough
aluminum material to disspate the heat. Somebody is going to end up burning
their fingers or thighs (from leaving it on in the pocket). Don't come crying
to me If enough heat builds up, it may rupture the cell and again BOOM.
Also, there is a very high risk that you will damage the LED - the junction
temperature ratings are not that high - the li-ion in the l0d/ld01 will
cause the junction temp to skyrocket. Forget getting 50,000 hours out of
that LED.

4) also as you're discharging the cell, the moment you see it dim, you've
already damaged the cell. these cells are not cheap - you'll end up with only
a few cycles.

If apple and ibm laptops are catching fire, don't think your little cell won't

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T TELL YOU NOT TO!!!

 

[lightsandknives]

DON'T SAY I DIDN'T TELL YOU NOT TO!!!

Plain enough for me!

I sometimes even wonder if it's worth the risk of using my 14500s and RCR123s!

 

[Sgt. LED]

Hmmmm
No comment on the off center LED at all.

 

[BabyDoc]

Plain enough for me!

I sometimes even wonder if it's worth the risk of using my 14500s and RCR123s!

If they are protected and single cells of good quality like AW rechargables, you shouldn't have a problem. Be sure the charger you are using is recommended for your particular cells.
If you are using 2 or more in a device, even if protected, they should be matched in terms of make, age, charge, and capacity. A good battery tester like the ZTS is a must in order to match rechargables for use in a multiple cell light.

Getting back directly to the topic, I am thrilled that the finish on this light is not highly polished as in the promotional pictures. I have an LOD that is all scratched up and can live with it, but sure would like a light that will look better even with the scratches.

 

[faucon]

The SS version is tempting, but it weighs more than twice as much as the standard edition. I think I'll opt for the 'ordinary' L0D1 because of this.

 

[Thujone]

The SS version is tempting, but it weighs more than twice as much as the standard edition. I think I'll opt for the 'ordinary' L0D1 because of this.

This added weight adds a feel of solid construction. It is this added weight that will make this light very desirable to most. I always chuckle when I see someone complain about what is an inherent feature of a model.. IE, stainless steel light "it's too heavy", Programmable light "it's too complicated", pocket rocket "wish it had a low low" and on and on and on..

 

[Sgt. LED]

:thumbsup:

 

[Jarl]

Red is dead centre of the reflector. Blue is dead centre of the LED. Pink is dead centre of the LED die. Seems that the LED die is centred in the LED, but neither the LED or the die are centred to the reflector.

Of course, this is just what I did quickly in MS paint. If anyone wants to do it more accurately, please do.

edit: TK20 added.

No pink for the die this time, as that'd get too cluttered and IMO it's fairly obvious it's centered within the LED.

 

[Sgt. LED]

AH-HA!

 

[puzzl3]

I'm sorry, I live outside US and many like me also live outside US.
We like many others have a very limited english language.
Sometimes when we read reviews or comments or suggestions about a light or anything, it take us a while to fully understand it. Some of us also put dictionary next to our computer and we read and re read the writing again until we understand some of it. But we like light so much and this forum is only available in english language as international language.
Please if possible simplify the reviews such as :

" NEVER USE LITHIUM TO REPLACE AAA FOR THIS LIGHT, IT'S DANGEROUS "

Or something like that.

If my opinion is wrong, i'd like to apologize.
If my opinion is right, please consider our friends from other part of this world.


Best Regard

 

[dioragry]

i do agree with the " NEVER USE LITHIUM TO REPLACE AAA FOR THIS LIGHT, IT'S DANGEROUS " in simple..
but 4sevens is just giving more info and examples on Li-Ion cells..
i also almost cooked my fingers while trying to charge an over-discharged unprotected 16340 cell..
i also really do not recommend unprotected cells.

 

[EngrPaul]

Even if you get away with using a 10450 in an aluminum version, I'd definitely avoid it in the Stainless, which probably won't carry away heat fast enough to protect the emitter from damage [when a Lithium-Ion 3.7V 10450 is used].

 

[4sevens]

Even if you get away with using a 10450 in an aluminum version, I'd definitely avoid it in the Stainless, which probably won't carry away heat fast enough to protect the emitter from damage.

Heat will not be a problem with normal AAA batteries like it was designed to take.