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    Default Torture test: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *FREEZE TEST ADDED*

    Update, Jan 17th 2012: Since this thing refused to die, I submerged it in water in a food storage container and put it in the freezer. It still worked after 20 seconds underwater, but there were bubbles forming at the head so I was confident that the light was finally gonna buy it. I decided to combine this with a runtime test on the low stage, so the light was turned on while under water in the freezer.

    After a night in the freezer (approx. 12-15 hours) the light had shut down. The low stage was supposed to last for 45 hours on fresh batts, so I had finally killed it ... or so I thought. I thawed out the light by putting the container under the warm tap and letting the water run, and as soon as the warm water got to the light, it fired right back up. The batteries in the light were alkalines, and since this chemistry quits working in cold conditions and the light had been frozen at -23 deg. C, this extreme cold shut down the light ... temporarily. There were some condensation on the lens on the inside, but the light still works. The light is noticeably dimmer, but this is due to the partly drained batteries. This thing is definitely unregulated.

    I can't drop test the light from higher up than 5 meters/15 feet, and Varta rates it as drop proof to 10 meters/30 feet, so someone suggest me something I should try next. Throwing it out of a moving car? (under safe conditions of courses).


    Frozen solid and dead(?)


    It's alive!


    Original post, Jan 14th 2012:
    For pics and descriptions of the light in question:

    http://www.rayovac.com/Products/Lights/Work/Virtually-Indestructible-LED-2AA-Flashlight.aspx

    I recently purchased the Varta 2AA Indestructible. Varta is the Euro Rayovac brand. I wanted to test the "indestructible" claim; and, yes, yes, I know, Varta defines "indestructible" as impact proof up to 10 meters and a water ingress rating of IPX-4. But I wanted to take this light to the limit.

    The light has a forward clickie, which feels kinda cheap, but is easy to activate and not too easy to click. Is has two levels, low and high, and the high is claimed to be 100 lumens. The runtime on high is claimed to be 15 hours, which seems to indicate, that the light isn't regulated. There is no noticeable PWM on the low level, and I normally notice any kind of PWM right away. The light switches between the levels just like the Surefire G2X Pro - lightly press to change modes, click for constant on. The high mode comes on first (are you taking notes, Surefire?) and there's no mode memory. The light can tailstand, and throws well due to the deep reflector. It actually throws as well as my Quark at distances up to 50 meters. The beam has some artifacts, probably due to irregularities in the reflector, but it's way more symmetrical than the beam off Maglite's LED lights (*cough* Mini Maglite 2AA LED *cough*).


    The unsuspecting victim


    Bezel view


    It has the walls of a main battle tank


    Box contents: The tailcap is the only part of the light, that screws off, so leaky alkaleaks may be a problem


    Beam on high mode. Pretty symmetrical. Also, I didn't make my bed.


    I started my long journey towards killing the light by throwing it into the air 5 times and letting it hit the floor. Predictably this did nothing to harm the light. I then decided to test the waterproofness of the light. I did the following:

    5 minutes in cold atmosphere: -19 deg. C (freezer)
    2 minutes immersion in 90 deg. C water
    2 minutes immersion in 10 deg. C water

    During the immersion in the cold water, air bubbles were leaving the light due to the change in pressure. Afterwards I found some water intrusion in the tailcap (a few drops). I took a closer look, and found out that the tailcap is plastic, which means that it's dimensions probably change with temperature. Still, the result is more than I expected from a IPX-4 rated light.


    Immersed in water that is almost boiling


    I dropped the light 5 times onto the bezel from 1 meter, and put it back in the freezer for 15 minutes. I then rinsed it under warm tap water. No ill effects.

    I decided to step things up: I lubed the tailcap O-ring which was bone dry, and immersed the light in 40 cm of clear, cold tap water for 30 minutes. I put it in with the tailcap facing down, to increase pressure on what seemed to be the primary ingress point. A few drops of water entered the light but rendered neither the light nor the batteries inoperative. I've actually seen worse from lights that were rated IPX-8, so water ingress protection is quite good, once you grease up the light properly.


    *blub* *blub* (actually no air bubbles escaped during this test)


    I proceeded to impact test the light. The factory drop tests the light from a height of 10 meters and it weighs 191 grams including batteries. This corresponds to an impact energy of 18.8 joules. This roughly corresponds to the maximum IK rating, which is 20 joules. However, if the light is simply dropped, the rubber ends will make it bounce so I opted for a different, harsher approach. I dropped a 5 kg weight(!) onto the light from a height of no less than 75 centimeters (and up to roughly 200 centimeters, but it was kinda hard to hit from this height) corresponding to impact energies between 36.8 and 98.2 joules. The light was placed on a piece of wood. With this impact testing method the light had nowhere to bounce, although it did manage to get thrown off to the sides a few times. The results were as follows: 4 hits at energies greater than 50 joules did superficial damage to the body, but there was no deformation of the battery compartment. The anodizing was scratched, but that's it. One hit to the tailcap made the light come on and stay on even if the tailcap was pressed. The light could be turned off by unskrewing the tailcap thereby breaking the connection. A second hit knocked the switch loose again but obliterated the constant on function, so I was left with a momentary light. A direct hit to the front of the bezel did damage to the lens, and a sideways hit to the bezel deformed it visibly. Apparently the bezel and head is plastic just like the tailcap. Boo! Hiss!


    Do you expect me to talk? No, Mr. Light. I expect you to die.


    I went outside and ran the damaged light over with my car about 10 times. I ran it over from different angles in order to try to destroy the tailcap or bezel even more, but no luck. I proceeded to throw the light as hard as I could onto the ground five times. This tore off the tail cap boot.

    When I went back inside, I tore a loose plastic ring off the tailcap, and to my surprise this got the constant-on function working again. The switch seemed a little bit unstable, but this instability and flickering turned out to be due to battery damage so I replaced the Varta batteries with Uniross Hybrios. So I'm left with a working light, that is a little hard to activate, because the switch is recessed from the multiple impacts. Also the beam is less than perfect due to the lens damage, and the waterproofness is shot to hell, even though I replaced the tailcap boot with a 4sevens boot I had lying around.


    Some nicks in the body. These were made by dropping the weight from 2 meters. The anodizing is pretty good.


    Lens damage form direct frontal hit.


    Tailcap damage, primarily from throwing the light on the ground in a parking lot.


    Button top of the rearmost battery impacted, so it is flush with the top.


    Tailcap boot and plastic ring, after I tore it off. It's dead, Jim.


    Recessed clickie, but it still works. It does take some effort to press, though.


    Beam on high mode. Not that symmetrical anymore.


    All in all, this light may not be indestructible, but it is way tougher than advertised and certainly tougher than I expected. This is a perfect loaner or cheap backup for the enthusiast and the perfect glovebox light or emergency light for the non-enthusiast and grandpa, in part because it runs on readily available AA batteries. There's also a 3C version.

    I hear that these lights sell for 15 bucks in the US, which makes this an excellent value light. I got screwed out of nearly 49 dollars, but that's European prices for ya.
    Last edited by radioactive_man; 01-17-2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason: Spelling, grammar and clarity. Pictures added. Inserted correct Bond movie quote.
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    Default Re: The perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible

    Great write up and a fun read. These kind of "loaners" are good to keep around - I have several like this that the kids and their friends constantly run wild with. I'll have to look closer at these. Great price at $15.

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    lifetime guarantee. since they advertise "indestructible" you can get a replacement light in no second. i hear plastic plastic plastic in your review (the lens is plastic, of course).. and maybe made in China?

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    Default Re: The perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible

    Vesper: Not entirely sure about the price. I think Home Depot sells them.

    Shelm: I don't think the lifetime guarantee covers my pounding the flashlight with a 5 kg lead weight until it fails. Not even Surefire's guarantee covers willful destruction.

    Edit: And it's definitely Chinese. It has the word "China" stamped on the tailcap, and I don't think it refers to the material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_man View Post
    [...]Apparently the bezel and head is plastic just like the tailcap.[...]
    Wonderful writeup! I got the same impression about the tailcap and head being plastic when I first opened up mine. Very robust and thick battery tube, but plastic is hiding underneath the rubber parts. I figure the plastic head, covered with rubber, cannot be very good at heat sinking. Still, it is noticeably brighter than my Pelican 2360, and only half the cost (in the US at least).

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    I had the same thought about the heat sinking, but an XP-C LED at 100 lumens probably doesn't generate that much heat.

    I just edited the opening post because I found several silly spelling and grammar mistakes. English isn't my first language and this was written late at night.
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    Finally got around to adding pictures. The interface of imgur.com is a pain in the butt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_man View Post
    "China" stamped on the tailcap, and I don't think it refers to the material.
    That's funny lmao

    Thanks for the write-up -- it's the first honest and detailed review on the WWW!!

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    That's pretty tough, actually extremely tough for a budget light.

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    It's real torture test. Thanks for your effort.

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    UPDATE: Since this thing refuses to die, I just submerged it in water in a food storage container and put it in the freezer. It still worked after 20 seconds underwater, but there were bubbles forming at the head so I am confident that the light is finally gonna buy it. I decided to combine this with a runtime test on the low stage, so right now the light is turned on while under water in the freezer. If this doesn't kill the light, I'll submerged it in salt water and repeat the test. If it survives this, I'll resort to thermite, acid or worse.
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    Default Re: The perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible

    Can you do a 20 metre drop instead?

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    2100: The impact tests I did are roughly equivalent to 20 to 50 meter drops. Except for the fact, that the rubber parts weren't allowed to let the light bounce, so the test was actually a little bit rougher than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_man View Post
    2100: The impact tests I did are roughly equivalent to 20 to 50 meter drops. Except for the fact, that the rubber parts weren't allowed to let the light bounce, so the test was actually a little bit rougher than that.
    I know the energy / joules are the same so the aluminum would bend a lot. But I was just thinking that in a real drop, the electronics would be subjected to G forces. If you pin the light to the floor, the G forces would not be the same.

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    2100: I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right. I just can't think of a building nearby that's tall enough where this could be done without endangering bystanders. Hmm ...

    After 45 minutes in the freezer the light is still going strong. Let's see what happens once the water that's covering it starts to freeze.
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    please keep up the great work!
    this is the most fascinating and real-to-world testing and writing i've come across on this forum.

    entertaining. and important.
    !!

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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    I'm always on the lookout for a durable 2AA flashlight that I can carry in my holster for work. My hand held lights get pretty beat up and AA batteries are what I'm supplied with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flashlight chronic View Post
    I'm always on the lookout for a durable 2AA flashlight that I can carry in my holster for work. My hand held lights get pretty beat up and AA batteries are what I'm supplied with.
    You should look at a zebralight SC51 or SC50. There is a torture thread like this for a zebralight (it's the SC30 actually, their CR123 light). I have a SC51 and not only is it as bright as many 2 AA lights, but I have no doubt that it can withstand as much torture as this light (probably much more).

    Here it is: http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/...t=torture+test

    Back on topic, I should say that I love these threads. Always a fun read.

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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    IPX4 ? you know it will leak. how can they market as indestructible ? they have no conscious
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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    Quote Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1 View Post
    IPX4 ? you know it will leak. how can they market as indestructible ? they have no conscious
    Well, it is pretty durable. And conscience or not, they claim they'll replace it. I haven't killed mine to test that yet. My girlfriend's sister's boyfriend is enjoying his. I'm waiting for him to subject it to the same thing that happened to his tungsten ring (Some pounding equipment in a copper pipe factory).
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    I love mine! $15- at Home Depot for this 2AA, $25- for a 3C, and a 3AAA headlamp is $13-. GREAT for the money!

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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    Update 17th Jan 2012: The freeze test is concluded (and has been for a few days, but I didn't get around to writing about it before now). Conclusions at the top of the OP. Scroll all the way up.
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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    Any suggestions for further testing? Anyone?
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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    Quote Originally Posted by radioactive_man View Post
    Any suggestions for further testing? Anyone?
    You can use a rope to calculate high drop speeds. Make sure you wear eye protection and a helmet at least. You might want to make sure that the light impacts around a corner from you after you've let the string go.

    1. Pick a speed, say 20 m/sec, about equivalent to impact after falling for 2 seconds (30m)

    2. Find a convenient space to swing your rope in. You'll need the radius of swinging room you have, or a convenient 2.5m

    3. The speed of an object spinning on a string is equal to the perimeter of its path per time to travel. A 2.5m rope gives you a diameter of 5m, and a perimeter of about 15m. If you get the flashlight to spin twice per second (! Dangerous !) then it is going at about 30m per second.

    Note: You have a heavy aluminum bar traveling at 30m per second. This is unsafe.

    4. Let go when it is headed towards a wall, try and estimate angle of impact

    I think you can crack the whip and kill it this way.
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    Default Re: Torture test of the perfect loaner: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *PICTURES AD

    Excellent suggestion, AnAppleSnail. I'll look into this.
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    Default Re: Torture test: Varta/Rayovac 2AA Indestructible *FREEZE TEST ADDED*

    I just picked up one of these on a Home Depot gift card. Very impressive for $15.

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    Damn, you made me want one of those... Can't find them in B&M stores here, searched the web too and it seems like it's the only Varta flashlight model that isn't imported at all.

    BTW, have you thought of putting it through a good ol' clothes washer cycle before it's (hopefully) put to permanent rest by a 500G impact?

    Cheers,

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    I had let this light sit for a while because I didn't have time for additional testing. I picked it up the other day and accidentally dropped it, and it wouldn't turn on after that. I unscrewed the tailcap, pushed the switch assembly rearward with my index finger, reassembled the light, and it lit up once and then failed again. It seems like the short fall from my hand broke the last piece of the plastic threads that were holding the switch assembly in place. Bear in mind, that the threads have survived several impacts by a 5 kg weight released from heights up to 2 meters. I never expected them to put up with that much punishment. Since this additional tailcap damage rendered the light inoperable without having to disassemble the light after each activation, I saluted the light and dumped it into the nearest trash can.

    RIP (P as in Pieces)

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    I just googled this thread. I bought this light last week for $15. In the USA

    I disagree about regulation. I am measuring on hight .62 tail cap draw on fresh NIMH and Fresh Alkalines (.08 amp on low). It holds (Eneloops) steady around .6 amp (+-.02 amps) for 3 hours, at about 3.1 to 3.5 hours it crashes to .05 amp which should continue for the next 11 hours, or so. THus, the odd 15 hour rating. (You should get an extra hour with 2700's)

    I really am amazed at the apparent efficiency and flatness of the current/brightness for the price. I am pretty sure it is an xp-c--the beam is beautiful, warm, well formed, and throw is amazing for the class/current. The throw is better than my Fenix HP11 on the 130 lumen setting, better than the coleman 144 lumen light r2 xpe. And it should only eat 4 AA 2700s in 8 hours, with a flat regulation. Compared to the energizer inspection light 2 AA, it blows out wayyy more might and farther throw, flatter current, and not the near amp that that light sucks down.

    Personally, I think the metal is too heavy. I wonder if it is really Aluminum, and if so, why so thick? Overkill for me. Yes, I would pay an extra 20 for an xp-g2. But for now.

    I own the 3 AAA version headlamp version of this--which IS NOT regulated. The beam is way throwier with the 2AA light version. I do like the low setting of the 3 AAA headlamp, which is a useful setting. But the low on the 2 AA flashlight has a hotspot so tiny, even for my tastes as a detail task light. The HL doesn't have this problem. I like the HL low and the FL high.

    In conclusion, heavier than it needs (but not too heavy), amazing throw, amazing price, amazing controller.
    Last edited by degarb; 08-27-2012 at 08:37 AM.
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    Haven't read entire thread to see if other measured the lux. I am measure above 8500 lux at 1 meter with NiMH (not fresh either)-knocking on the door of 9000.

    This exceeds my deep xp-g r5 Fenix HP 11 on 277 lumen mode. To the eye, about the same throw, possible perceptually less because of much less output than the HP!.
    Some people are all lumens and no lux, while others are all lux and no lumens. Some just thank God they have neither.-- All of my lights have throw--some pretty darn far, into the garbage.

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