Peak Eiger let down (allgood, sorted)

Diablo_331

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tylernt said:
Can I just take a moment to say that Peak's website is confusing? The above linked Eiger page shows outputs for 1xNimH/1xAlk as well as 2xNiMH/2xAlk -- so is Eiger a single-cell or a two-cell flashlight? Also, why is "10280" listed as a battery in the FC/L output chart, when at the top of the page it says Eiger is a AAA/10440 size light?

Help me understand please...

You are not the only one that thinks that. The site is outdated and Peak does not do customer service. All customer service is handled through Overready in your case.

The eiger can be had in a AAA, 2 AAA, 10280, or a 10180 size body. The 2 AAA body is not curently available anywhere and can ONLY be used with two 1.5 volt or less batteries. No li ions with the two AAA body.

If I were you I would take everything on the Peak website with a grain of salt as I said, it's probally outdated and doesn't apply.
 

subiya

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Not too sure but there are several different bodies to fit several different batteries. theres AAA, 3/4 aaa (my 10280) and there's 1/2AAA the shortest and smallest cell.
The thing with any battery (I use lots of lithium batteries in models) is if you flatten a battery in around 5 minutes you are REALY pushing that batteries envelope and to draw that amperage results in the cells voltage dropping sharply unless it has a discharge capacity of around 30-50C. So in these lights the quality of the cells is paramount and I have no idea who makes these cells or what their discharge rates are. That's why the same light on a larger capacity cell may appear brighter, even though it's still the same nominally rated voltage lithium cell. The light is drawing less of the available amperage so the voltage stays higher. Amps times volts = watts. Your torch doesn't work on Amps. It works on watts.
 

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Help me understand please...

Sorry for the confusion. A few points...

Our 30 day return/exchange is no fault. Anything can be sent back for any reason. Please let us know directly if would like either option.

High CRI (especially Nichia high CRI) deliver some outstanding color benefits. In exchange, you pay a price in lost lumen output. In this case, the Nichia head is half the lumens of the cool Cree. This is both because the XPG is better at making more initial lumens and because the Nichia has phosphors that convert a % of those lumens into color rendering light.

Nichia Eiger heads were made available during a 1 week window. During that window, the listing page showed only the output for the cool XPG head.

If output is your goal, you should be happier with the XPG head.
 

subiya

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Think I'll just get a XPG eiger as well.
I have to admit that walking around outside things definitely look more natural.
But when we go camping at Xmas we always get into an argument about who has the brightest light.
This year I'm going prepared!!!!!!!, Eiger XPG head (and the cri around my neck), Fenix TK35 (best light ever made.) and a 75W SSK HID torch that's usefully good for double the TK distance. It's not about the light. It's about the bling! I won't even have to stand up. Torches are tested by checking our boats on their moorings. It's all very scientific.
 

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Heh, you seem to me to be a little new to lights subiya, so I'll give you my advice:

There will come a point where the quantity of lumens means less to you than the quality of lumens. When that point comes, you'll regret ever giving up this light. As mentioned, only 40 were made and they're highly-sought after. Keep it now and thank me later. ;)
 

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Heh, you seem to me to be a little new to lights subiya, so I'll give you my advice:

There will come a point where the quantity of lumens means less to you than the quality of lumens. When that point comes, you'll regret ever giving up this light. As mentioned, only 40 were made and they're highly-sought after. Keep it now and thank me later. ;)

What industries/kinds of people would benefit from the more natural light output of his CRI Eiger? In other words...who is this particular light marketed to? I have some theatre experience and I know some people who work on lighting crews have one hell of an eye when it comes to color. Case in point, I showed a girl my PA40 the other night at work - she's in lighting. As soon as I turned it on, she exclaimed "Wow...that's a lot of green in the spill...". I could hardly notice it. =P
 

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HiCri lights simply render things more naturally. During fall and summer months if you are outdoors everything will look better. It is easier to spot things in the woods for instance. Maybe if you are cooking on the grill outdoors at night and want to see what color the meat is you would want a hi cri light. Apart from those 'realistic' benefits it comes down to a personal preference thing. Cool lights typically will put out more light but its not as natural. Everything will be bathed in the cool color of the LED, and therefore will not look as natural. Incan lights are the origins of hi cri as they are as natural in light output as you can get. Only downfall is reliability and run times. LED's came on the scene and were far brighter, and lasted longer. However, the real look is lost. This is where the hi cri lights come in. That is a very rare light and def a keeper.
 

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Subiya, may I add two cents as well. You are a lucky one to have ended up owning a high-CRI Eiger.

Echoing others, I hope you eventually realize the light you're perceiving as somewhat of a disappointment is quite rare, and special.

Especially in the eyes of veteran flashaholics who appreciate more-accurate color rendition offered by the emitter. Especially more so for flashaholics that know how uncommon it is to obtain a special edition product from Peak LED.

Please consider the suggestions that others have offered. They speak wisely.

Happy shining!
 

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Being rare is nice but let's face it the main purpose of this item is to illuminate things, if you feel it doesn't do this well enough then why keep it?
 

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Heh, you seem to me to be a little new to lights subiya, so I'll give you my advice:

There will come a point where the quantity of lumens means less to you than the quality of lumens. When that point comes, you'll regret ever giving up this light. As mentioned, only 40 were made and they're highly-sought after. Keep it now and thank me later. ;)

+1 What he said....
 

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I would like to throw in my vote with the "Keep it!" crowd. The nice, warm beam is awesome. It's a great light. I think you will grow to appreciate it over time.
 

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I would follow the advice from all the members that told you to keep it, you already have other lights that are brighter than the Eiger XP-G, you have your contest winner there.

When you want to know if the meat is done in the grill or when you get inside a pc case and want to distiguish orange cables from red ones, or want to look for something black and small like an O-ring that got lost somewhere on the floor or simply need to take a picture of that insect or flower that happens to be under a shade you will have that Nichia Hi CRI available, and in a very portable vessel.

I will get a Hi CRI light in a near future, but you already have it there.
 

subiya

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OK. First of all a big thanks to ElectronGuru for chipping in and explaining exactly what the story is with the cri led. When I bought the light the communication, help offered, service and speed of delivery was excellent and now he's taken service a step further through this forum.
After charging the cycling the cells several times there was a noticeable improvement in the light levels and it does definitely do as described. Deliver a better view of natural colors. Great.
I'm definitely going to keep the cri light. Now I know it's performing as designed I feel very happy with the purchase and there is a certain kudos to owning 1 of 40 lights made.
Cheers
Glen
 
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I often grill outdoors much of the year (and it can get dark early in winter) - so I use High-CRI to check what's cooking :) .... As manoloco mentioned above, this works so much better than a cool white emitter.

Glad to hear things worked out well, all around. Kind of you to change the thread title, as well :thumbsup:
 

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I'm one of the lucky few who were able to buy an Eiger High-CRI Nichia head. I bought it for my daughter, a medical student. She already owns one of the best medical beams for peering down throats: a 4Sevens Preon1 (1AAA) Warm. But it's only a matter of time before she loses it, and when she does, I'll present her with an even better medical light.

If you do sell it, please offer it exclusively to flashalolics in New Zealand and nearby countries. We North Americans can pick up rare gems like this more easily than you can.
 

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Glad your happy with it now but on the plus side and judging by the replies on this thread, looks like you could get your money back or more on cpfmp

p.s +1 on the dodgy looking, confusing website
 
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