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We are working on new versions of the TLE-6EX and TLE-6EXB. They should be available within the next 90 days. Specs still not available, but you will be impressed!!
Craig
Craig
TLE-6EX or TLE-6EXB LED ugrade for 3D mag?
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eyeeatingfish
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Oohh, maybe with a P7 in there, going for flood?
Maybe a Q5?
Maybe a Q5?
steveG
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Can you give us any clue as to the runtime? Will it be similar to the current TLE-6EX?
TerraLUX Corp.
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It should be similar to the current version. Although it's tough to keep run time up when doubling the lumen power!!!
Craig
JamisonM
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Doubt it will be a P7; 5th quote down. I'm guessing a drop-in similar to Gene's or at least one with the same idea in mind; heatsinking. If I can go to a walmart and pick that up; that'd be nice. At the same time though, I'm worried that the design of the new rebel maglties was intentional so as to disallow PR style drop-ins. This basically kills everything except mods that require one to cut down the switch and reflector or their full replacement. This means there are many products out there that will not work and are next to useless. Talk about anti-competitive. Still, I doubt that the new rebel maglites is a design that will completely replace the incan. and the current as well as older luxeon III maglites. Why they haven't done things differently is beyond me.
steveG
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I'm looking forward to it, Craig!
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TerraLUX Corp.
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Mag is very difficult to work with. They want nothing to do with anybody in the industry. Anything they do new to their flash lights will be with the intension of keeping TerraLUX or anybody else away from being able to make an LED upgrade. They are not a very happy company!!
Craig
eyeeatingfish
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Double the output? Awesome.
Someone jsut gave me their 3D mag that wasnt being used so im ready and waiting for another upgrade. My other became a mag 85
Someone jsut gave me their 3D mag that wasnt being used so im ready and waiting for another upgrade. My other became a mag 85
Bumping this as I've got an old 3D mag and, after going through all the 2007 postings about the TLE-6EX and the TLE-6EXB's was getting a bit discouraged (seemed to be some issues). I see here at the end of this one that a new pair was due out, but I'm not finding anything about them.
Anyone know what's the best "cheap" replacement these days for a 3D Mag? I'd like to upgrade the old beast as it's handy, but I've got my smaller (and much brighter) LED models for everyday work. Being able to reuse the old metal would make me feel good :)
Of the two, which tends to be better for the 3D? I saw allusions to one being far more efficient. I'd plan on it running with alkalines and it would be more of something kept on a mount in the garage for emergencies, rough handling, etc.
Anyone know what's the best "cheap" replacement these days for a 3D Mag? I'd like to upgrade the old beast as it's handy, but I've got my smaller (and much brighter) LED models for everyday work. Being able to reuse the old metal would make me feel good :)
Of the two, which tends to be better for the 3D? I saw allusions to one being far more efficient. I'd plan on it running with alkalines and it would be more of something kept on a mount in the garage for emergencies, rough handling, etc.
M@elstrom
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The TLE-6EXB best suits the 2/3 cell Maglite (due to voltage control) the same 3D maglite with the other version wouldn't be as bright as they're best suited to 4/6 cell Maglites ;)
Before you buy one I should mention that some modules have had their emitter come adrift of the anodized heatsink/base & have personally experienced this first hand (easily fixed but still a nuisance) ;)
The 'all new' LED Maglites have a Luxeon Rebel emitter (superior to the original MAGled emitter) and feature a user variable output which is quite a nice feature, however to revive your old Maglite I'd recommend a DIY mulitemitter project parts are easily sourced here (CPF) and from various sites around the internet... it'll give you the best bang for your buck @ 700~900Lm :thumbsup:
Before you buy one I should mention that some modules have had their emitter come adrift of the anodized heatsink/base & have personally experienced this first hand (easily fixed but still a nuisance) ;)
The 'all new' LED Maglites have a Luxeon Rebel emitter (superior to the original MAGled emitter) and feature a user variable output which is quite a nice feature, however to revive your old Maglite I'd recommend a DIY mulitemitter project parts are easily sourced here (CPF) and from various sites around the internet... it'll give you the best bang for your buck @ 700~900Lm :thumbsup:
Thanks for the reply. I'm interested in the best bang for buck (within reason). The ~$20 6EXB seemed a good "cheap" investment that would be much better than the standard bulb (it just seems "wrong" when my NiteCore SmartPD D10 R2 far outshines the 3D mag :) )
Any pointers to the "next level" of the DIY project (and cost?)? Between work and 3 little ones, my dig time these days is severely limited, but it's always fun to pull out the iron and mod some parts.
Any pointers to the "next level" of the DIY project (and cost?)? Between work and 3 little ones, my dig time these days is severely limited, but it's always fun to pull out the iron and mod some parts.
M@elstrom
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MattK
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The issues experienced in early units are long ago resolved so there's no cause for concern.
We ship hundreds of units every month and almost never get a return.
I would suggest the TLE-6EXB for your 3D Mag on alkalines. That or a TLE-300M 500 lumen unit plus a 6V battery packa and charger and make the thing a real monster. :)
We ship hundreds of units every month and almost never get a return.
I would suggest the TLE-6EXB for your 3D Mag on alkalines. That or a TLE-300M 500 lumen unit plus a 6V battery packa and charger and make the thing a real monster. :)
sabre7
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Unfortunately, issues involving explosions, rapid/massive dimming, and other failures are always dredged up in threads where these drop-ins are discussed, despite first hand experience from satisfied owners reporting otherwise.
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MattK
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Yup - though I enver heard of explosions - just rapid dimming due to QC problems with the SSC emitters.
M@elstrom
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Interesting... the original version used a K2 emitter I had issues with an SSC P4 variant as did newbie (as seen below in his TLE-6EX SSC P4 picture), additionally perhaps you'd care to communicate with the OP of THIS thread who's had exactly what I described (emitter coming adrift) with a recently purchased TLE-6EXB? :popcorn:
Seems to be a few variants of the K2 TLE-6EX* as well... the naked aluminium looks nicest but I've never seen one like it anywhere before lightime posted his Maglite resurrection thread HERE :D
Well I can give you first hand experience to the contrary as can ocharry, WadeF, Delta, Creeple, Phaserburn, Durango360, rolling, cbubu & newbie :whistle:
All in all still a good bang for buck proposition & I suppose I'd readily buy another but I'd never recommend one OR gift one unless it had been reconditioned with ASA thermal epoxy first (K2 OR SSC P4) :thumbsup:
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sabre7
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Good job, it looks like you went to considerable effort to find 9 other dissatisfied customers. Out of thousands and thousands of units sold, along with the word of a reputable dealer and satisfied owners, that is an excellent track record and evidence of a quality product.
Although one could certainly find 10 dissatisfied customers for every mass produced product ever mentioned on these forums, it is not proof that they are bad products.
MattK
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Most of those 'first hand experiences' you point to are quite old, newbies page, phaserburns & deltas posts are all from 5/07 - more than 2 years ago.
The TLE-6EX/TLE-6EXB are mass manufactured products so I am sure a defective unit goes out now and then but TerraLUX has always been fantastic about replacing those few units.
The TLE-6EX/TLE-6EXB are mass manufactured products so I am sure a defective unit goes out now and then but TerraLUX has always been fantastic about replacing those few units.
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M@elstrom
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I don't recall saying they were a 'bad product' simply that they had been known to have failures & based on those experiences (of the newer version issues) I'd not recommend the product in the state it leaves the manufacturer ;)
Kudos on the sarcasm :thumbsup:
Never stated that Terralux had a bad customer service policy either, just that the issues you speak of being resolved (with the original version) have simply continued (to some extent) into the next generation product as newbie's, ocharry's & my own modules were all P4 revisions :cool:
MattK
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That's just the thing - newbie's P4 was from more than 2 years ago see the date on his write-up - TerraLUX switched to K2 TFFC flip chips and Cree's quite a while ago for it's EX products because of the problems with the SSC P4's. Since then they've gone 'emitter agnostic,' as the QC problems with the SSC's were since resolved.
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