ZebraLight SC51c High CRI Release

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Nice beamshots, thank you! :thumbsup:

At 85CRI I wasn't expecting amazing color rendering, and these shots pretty much confirm that. If anything, it'll be the 4000k that really makes this light easy on the eyes (especially compared to that 6500k SWM).

I would like to see a *tiny* bit more red in the tint though. The Rebel looks like it suffers from the same problem as the neutral Crees: a bit too green in the 4000k range. The only company that seems to make a 4000k LED with any red in it is Luminus.
 
Someone needs to take this thing outside! Don't have the time to do it myself tonight. The 5+ hour runtime on my Malkoff M61 HICRI setup was amazing on my last walk, though it's size in prohibitive for EDC. Was considering transferring it to a good ol' 6P, but the ZL fills that spot in nicely now, competing with the much more expensive Sunwayman (planning for a mod in due course)


I do agree the rendering isn't the most amazing I've seen, but it's still a small step up from the neutral crees. On white wall hunting, it does seem quite green as you said, more so that the neutral XPG in the M31, though when shining on colourful things, I do notice a slight improvement in differentiating different shades of the same colour, like greens and reds, though the difference is probably not dramatic enough to convert neutral lovers from the lower CRI yet still very efficient neutral XPGs. The 90+CRI XPG, however, is exceptional, if you don't mind warm tints.



EDIT: Just noticing how bad the light coming from my bathroom light looks XD
 
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NICE PICS Chongker!!


JA(me)S said:
Congrats! - now the looong nine hours till sunset... keep us posted!
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Count down started.

calipsoii said:
Take pictures. Report back. .....
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I set up for a controlled indoor shot, hope it works, it rainy cloudy and I'm sick, so getting a good control shot may not have been possible tried a few things and also did a flash shot for the control. Have not checked the control shots yet.

moshow9 said:
Woohoo, mine arrived today too. I'm at work and without any AA batteries. :(
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I was caught without batteries as well. Funny I have my battery waiting for the SC600 and I have not even ordered it yet, but nothing for the SC51c, I was probably figuring I'd just rob something else but for for pictures I should be better prepaired. Put a couple Powerex in the charger, I hope they will be good by dark. I might be able to start with something else if needed.

I'm busy with a few other things right now so I have not opened the package yet, because once I do I won't get anything else done.

Hopefully Chongker's pictures have allowed everyone to relax a bit... now the pressure is off me. Which is good as I've never attempted beam shots before and I'm not going to dig out the tripod or SLR so this might be a little challenging.

If my Indoor shots workout, maybe I'll venture outside maybe for a couple.
 
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Blasphemy! Not having batteries to power every light imaginable :nana:


Hopefully you'll be able to take some better shots highlighting what this LED can or can't do. Outdoor shots would be great, seeing how this thing renders trails would probably be more informative than seeing how it renders my bathroom's bath products :p
 
FWIW, while small, the difference between the SC51w and SC51c is noticeable as there is a bit more pop with the High CRI. To my eyes the beam also appears to be cleaner on the High CRI and it has a slightly smaller/tighter hotspot. I don't know if I'll continue to own both (have 2 SC51w's), but I think I'll like the SC51c more. Now to wait until dark. :)
 
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I'm still very impressed with the Sundrop and really surprised with the color of the SC60w on H1. These images accurately reflect what my eyes see. I looked at a lot of artwork which to me is the ultimate test for High CRI and and I looked at general stuff.

The H51c is impressive compared to regular lights. What is not shown here is how consistent the CRI on the SC51c is for the different levels. So far this is my greatest surprise and what I think really separates it from the other simply warm or neutral lights. I think this makes it a very good EDC light, and I think I would take it over the SC51w. I didn't dig out my SC51w as with a herd of Zebra it gets hard to recognize their different stripes after a while. I might do that in the future if there are more questions. It might be interesting to note the lumen output differences. I do wish the SC51c had a bit more output, I look forward to a SC31c or and 18650 variety.

Should I try for outdoor shots?
 
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That SC60w on high does produce some nice looking light. Hard to tell the difference between it and the SC51c. I'm tempted to get one, but the fact that it can't take flat button cells is holding me back.
 
Thanks Standard Battery for posting these shots - a lot of questions have been answered by your work. If this is your first attempt at beamshots, you have done an incredible job!

For some reason, I tended to focus on the two pieces left of the Crown Royal - maybe because those are known colors to me. It was here I felt the SC51c compared very favorably with the Sundrop. Both seemed to pick up the color gradients within these two pieces very well.

I agree with you (and am a little surprised) at the SC60w's H1 color rendition performance.

Rarely do I actually laugh at a comment within a post, but this line produced a good chuckle!
StandardBattery said:
I didn't dig out my SC51w as with a herd of Zebra it gets hard to recognize their different stripes after a while.
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However, I know there are folks here within CPF that would love to see the SC51w and SC51c compared - myself included. I think there are those trying to decide between these two lights specifically... and shots comparing the color rendition and beam profile among these two lights would be helpful.

Again, :goodjob: with the amazingly detailed :kewlpics: :clap:

- Jas.
 
JA(me)S said:
Thanks Standard Battery for posting these shots - a lot of questions have been answered by your work. If this is your first attempt at beamshots, you have done an incredible job!
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Again, :goodjob: with the amazingly detailed :kewlpics: :clap:
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Thanks for the king words, it was interesting, I'm glad they worked out as well as they did, and that you found it useful. I found it quite interesting, but I've been interested in tints and color for a long time. This task was a one reason to have so many ZebraLights I guess. Maybe I've got a really good SC60w, or maybe I should buy a backup ASAP!

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However, I know there are folks here within CPF that would love to see the SC51w and SC51c compared - myself included. I think there are those trying to decide between these two lights specifically... and shots comparing the color rendition and beam profile among these two lights would be helpful.
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I'm surprised there are not more comments so maybe everyone is now satisfied and moved on to the next big thing like the SC600.

I still have the items setup so maybe after dark I'll compare the SC51c and SC51w. I'm still thinking about how to do outdoor shots... seems very difficult without using a tripod and a good location. I can be a bit picky; the indoor shots push the limits of hand-held, outdoor just may not be possible with these small lights.
 
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ZebraLight SC51w color test with same scene.

I have included here a new SC51c shot at the same exposure but I move the hotspot more out of the frame for a more even illumination and better contrast.

Since the Spill on the SC51w is quite a bit dimmer I've shot the scene with the same exposure (scene will be darker), and with adjusted exposure (apparant brightness should be similar) as compared to the original SC51c. This difference was about 2/3 of a stop so that the different between the spill on the w and c versions. The brighter spill on the new SC51c is a definite improvement over the SC51w for EDC a near field work in my view.

Note: once resized, and saved as jpg the exposure difference (brightness), does not exactly match the original.

The color temperture of the 51c is definetly more towards neutral which is also nice.


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low said:
Hey my man, THIS is the next big thing. Performance over power anytime.
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Well you're right about that. ... Checking outdoor photos now. It started raining though, I'll have to run out again to get a better subjective interpretation.
 
Here are some REALLY poor outdoor shots... hopefully I can get better ones later, or someone else can... I'll try to do some subjective testing so I can comment. Sory but it was much harder to control the test outside, and it started raining which I had not counted on.


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StandardBattery,

Of the two interior SC51w pics - which was closer to what your eye registered (I know, very subjective...)

I don't know what I'm more impressed with:

  • your new found gift at interior color rendition comparison shots
  • the SC51c's beam profile and over all balance (with decent CRI)
  • the fact that, after 24 week-end hours, the Crown Royal looks to be untouched...
- Jas.
 
I went out again and took a few more shots, they turned out maybe a little better, but I don't think enough to warrant posting. Within range the two lights are pretty close outdoors. I don't know that one would really benefit from one light over the other, at least not in the green/brown environment. I happen to think the SC60w beats them both outdoors, but that's maybe partly due to it's output.
 
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StandardBattery,

Of the two interior SC51w pics - which was closer to what your eye registered (I know, very subjective...)

I don't know what I'm more impressed with:

  • your new found gift at interior color rendition comparison shots
  • the SC51c's beam profile and over all balance (with decent CRI)
  • the fact that, after 24 week-end hours, the Crown Royal looks to be untouched...
- Jas.
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Well I probbaly should have had some scotch.

While I've never done beam shots, or flashlight illuminated images, I've taken a few pictures in my day. The hard thing is working with the crippled awkward interfaces of small pocket cameras... and not using a tripod when I know I should be.... but it can be liberating to break all the rules and say good enough.

>Of the two interior SC51w pics
They both look pretty much the same to me if I ignore the area with the glare from the hotspot and the different in framing/size, so I'm not sure how to answer that.
 
Thank you StandardBattery. Although I am hard pressed to tell the difference in color rendition between both the SC51w and SC51c, I do know that I prefer the more floody beam of the SC51c from your outdoor beam shots.
 
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