Big Guns - Olight SR90 or Fenix TK70

[The_Driver]

Very nice beamshots :thumbsup:
So you were finally able to focus it
The reason for the sr-90 being better is the much higher quality and also larger reflector t has compared to the VPT. Imagine the de-domed VPT with the sr-90 reflector :devil:
Is the difference visually as big as in the pictures?

Also is the derrelight aspheric thaaaaat much better than the deft lr+?

 

[TEEJ]

Very nice beamshots :thumbsup:
So you were finally able to focus it
The reason for the sr-90 being better is the much higher quality and also larger reflector t has compared to the VPT. Imagine the de-domed VPT with the sr-90 reflector :devil:
Is the difference visually as big as in the pictures?

Also is the derrelight aspheric thaaaaat much better than the deft lr+?

Let's see...

Yes.



The SR90 reflector is awesome...so, depending on how the depths and so forth matched up, the VPT2 pumped out through an SR90 could be a fearsome weapon for sure.

Visually, yeah, it IS that different.


The aspherics looked a little better in person, but their spot of light is so small, playing with exposure to get it "right" is too wonky. The pics above are pretty close though. When the air has less crap in it, they look a bit brighter than the pics shown here.

The Deerelight is DEFINITELY visually brighter on target than the DEFT though. Its got almost 4x the lumens, and a much larger head to work with, whereas the DEFT is P6 sized, etc. Visually, its no contest in range/size of light projected.

The DEFT's light is very nicely tinted though, very warm, and renders colors better. That, and that it fits in a pant pocket, means that I tend to bring the DEFT with me into inspections, etc, as shining it down a long dark crawlspace, etc, means being able to put a spot of light on a detail very far away, w/o making everything on the way out to the target lit up too...handy to get a zoomed pic, avoid glare, etc.

So, the quality of the DEFT's light is great...the Deerelight is a fairly generic white beam. I like both, but for different purposes.

 

[TEEJ]

Been researching the FourSevens RRT3 XML and it looks like the XT11's big daddy.

I'm so there. Hope this will be legal here in NYC

LOL

Lets see...

RRT 3 XML is made by Jetbeam, not Four Sevens, and is a large multi-Celled three LED light with a control ring to select brightness

The XT11 is made by Klarus, not Four Sevens, and is a small, pocket sized single celled, single emiter light with no control ring, but a nifty two button tail cap switch.

Sooo....I'm not at all sure what lights you are actually comparing, as the two that you seem to be CONSIDERING AS smaller/larger versions of each other are not even remotely similar, or even made by who you thought they were?

You MIGHT want to consider some additional research, to tie up some of these loose ends, etc.



And, um, THIS THREAD is more about the Olight SR90 and the Fenix TK70...so, you might also consider other threads in your research as well....unless you MEANT to say SR90/TK70 instead of XT11, etc?

 

[ledmitter_nli]

LOL

Lets see...

RRT 3 XML is made by Jetbeam, not Four Sevens, and is a large multi-Celled three LED light with a control ring to select brightness

The XT11 is made by Klarus, not Four Sevens, and is a small, pocket sized single celled, single emiter light with no control ring, but a nifty two button tail cap switch.

Sooo....I'm not at all sure what lights you are actually comparing, as the two that you seem to be CONSIDERING AS smaller/larger versions of each other are not even remotely similar, or even made by who you thought they were?

You MIGHT want to consider some additional research, to tie up some of these loose ends, etc.



And, um, THIS THREAD is more about the Olight SR90 and the Fenix TK70...so, you might also consider other threads in your research as well....unless you MEANT to say SR90/TK70 instead of XT11, etc?

Oi. Yeh. Ambiens induced posting. But yeah. I got you.

No I was looking at RRT-3 beam shots and oddly, this thread came up in google images.

 

[TEEJ]

Oi. Yeh. Ambiens induced posting. But yeah. I got you.

No I was looking at RRT-3 beam shots and oddly, this thread came up in google images.

LOL google's funny that way.

Normally, no matter what I enter, I get porn...but, hey, we have flashlight porn here.

:devil:


So, I like my Jetbeam RRT 3 and my Klarus Xt11....and they are both awesome lights, just not really similar to each other.

I HAVE beam shots of the RRT 3 and XT11 too, but if you want some, start a new thread asking for beam shots of them (Or what ever Ambien meant to ask for) etc.

 

[ledmitter_nli]

OK cool. Will think about that. I'm pretty much already set on getting the RRT-3 XML. Sometimes I'm helping a friend find alternate side parking late at night after work and we end up only finding a spot 1/4 mile away somewhere near a park that's a bit iffy late at night and it's a long walk. Or I might be escorting friends somewhere. So I just want a mean looking utility when it's off, and a mean looking utility when it's on. RRT-3 looks like a good compromise between the TM11 (too stubby) and the Olight SR90 (too long). Now that's porn for ya's!

 

[TEEJ]

OK cool. Will think about that. I'm pretty much already set on getting the RRT-3 XML. Sometimes I'm helping a friend find alternate side parking late at night after work and we end up only finding a spot 1/4 mile away somewhere near a park that's a bit iffy late at night and it's a long walk. Or I might be escorting friends somewhere. So I just want a mean looking utility when it's off, and a mean looking utility when it's on. RRT-3 looks like a good compromise between the TM11 (too stubby) and the Olight SR90 (too long). Now that's porn for ya's!

Well, the Jetbeam RRT 3 XML is a very floody beam that does project pretty far, its a very useful light...its less floody than the TM11, and has a LOT less throw than the SR90.

This is a shot of the JB RRT 3 XML aimed at the same tree as the shots I did above, but from a different night...and zoomed in more.

The amount of light on the tree itself is pretty comparable to the levels of brightness for the other lights, in that the amount it appears dimmer is actually about the amount it appeared dimmer in person/by eye.

Here is a zoomed pic from the same night as the RRT 3 pic, but lit by the SR90

Here is a zoomed pic from the same night as the RRT 3 pic, but lit by the TK70

Here is a zoomed pic from the same night as the RRT 3 pic, but lit by the TM11



So, these can provide a slightly blurrier version of some comparative/reference lighting.

 

[ledmitter_nli]

Yeah I want FLOOD. Only good for city blocks.

The only thing I fear is being stopped by John Law if they don't know what the thing I'm holding is from a distance. They are that anal around these parts. Which is probably a good thing anyway. And I can show off a different kind of fire power and send the forum a new member.

 

[TEEJ]

Yeah I want FLOOD. Only good for city blocks.

The only thing I fear is being stopped by John Law if they don't know what the thing I'm holding is from a distance. They are that anal around these parts. Which is probably a good thing anyway. And I can show off a different kind of fire power and send the forum a new member.

Always hand it to them to look at, as in, "Hey, you're probably into lights, check THIS out.."

 

[ledmitter_nli]

I wonder how many of them would point it at themselves and turn it on. I would warn them of course.

Can you imagine showing a rookie an SR90

 

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

TEEJ,

I mean no disrepsect to you what I'm about to say, but I too was once guilty of doing the same thing you are and this picture below you posted is over doing the actual beam of what a person would see with their eyes. I'll explain. But first let me post your picture.

You stripped the EXIF data before posting it, so I can't give you an exact. I'd bet it is about 3 seconds shutter and probably taken on auto exposure. The giveaway is in the spill and also that you can see the hotspot beam, almost like a laser. You just don't see it like that with your eyes when you are there. Try setting your camera to manual and sticking to a shutter speed around 1 sec or so. It will be much more life-like. Set your white balance to fine or daylight. This will help you. A guy taught me this as well and it has helped me a bunch to tell it like it really is and to objectively compare beamshots to what a person truly sees. In auto, a camera takes at random whatever shutter and apperature it wants. And the longer shutter speed will always result in brighter nite beamshots which overstates the actual beam. Now indoors manual settings won't work and auto or picture mode will be more idea.

 

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

And you can use this link to see what settings a picture was actually taken at by copying the image address url link and pasting it the box at the top of this link. But you can't do that if someone strips the EXIF data before posting a picture.

http://regex.info/exif.cgi

 

[Custom]

i would like to echo the SR90 beating the TK70 SIGNIFICANTLY.
with all the hype and original pictures i saw, i jumped on the TK70 wagon and my buddy ordered an SR90 through Sears...(yes Sears lol)
when i finally received the TK70 i was absolutely disappointed. and once he brought his SR90 over, was the nail in the coffin.. SR90 has a bit more ceiling bounce than the Fenix and WAY more throw. TK70 = a bright "throw around the house" light to me and nowhere Near a thrower. sure the 70 is getting cheaper, but these two lights shouldn't really be compared. wish i saw the pics in this thread before ordering!

and yes i have tenergy premiums.

 

[LiteTheWay]

I am a fan of the TrustFire X6 too and think it is a much under-rated light. I note also that it is not a 'copy' of any other 'name-brand' light.

Agree that you only get 30-40 mins runtime on high but that is plenty for me and I prefer the 'long-thin' profile and the 3 x 'standard' 18650 batteries.

Well these lights are bright and have over 1,000lm but it also matters what kind of reflector the TK70 and SR90 have so its all comes down to your preference. I own a Trustfire x6 with 3x 18650 and it gets the job done for a short trime, but the run time is 30-40min.

 

[rufus001]

i would like to echo the SR90 beating the TK70 SIGNIFICANTLY.

It's the luck of the draw. Before I dedomed it my SR90 barely threw further than my TK70. Some SR90's are around the 140K lux + mark but apparently quite a few (mine included) are around 105K lux the same as the TK70. And my TK70 pumps out heaps more light in a ceiling bounce test.

 

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

I can tell you the TK70 may not throw like you said as good as the SR90. But heck it shouldn't. But it still a dang good thrower and far from a let down. Any light that will easily out throw the Crelant 7G5 or M3X at 350yds by over 2 to 3 times as bright is one heck of a light in my opinion.

 

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

And the TK70 puts out 130,500CD. That beats the SR90 by quite a bit.

 

[Custom]

i wont say i'm at the point of returning the tk70 (yet)
but it has Not lived up to all the hype i read. once i fired it up, it became very apparent that it was basically a dry with bigger reflectors. SR90 seemed a lot brighter and more impressive at any distance.

i'm still a newbie by all means... but i thought the 7G5 V1 tested at over 55k lux and the TK70 was like 64k lux?

 

[rufus001]

i wont say i'm at the point of returning the tk70 (yet)
but it has Not lived up to all the hype i read. once i fired it up, it became very apparent that it was basically a dry with bigger reflectors. SR90 seemed a lot brighter and more impressive at any distance.

i'm still a newbie by all means... but i thought the 7G5 V1 tested at over 55k lux and the TK70 was like 64k lux?

It really sounds like you have a bad one. My TK70 is way more impressive than my SR90 up to about 3 or 400 metres. Generally people, including Selfbuilt, get at least 105k lux from the TK70. And heaps more lumens than the SR90.

 

[ILIKEFLASHLIGHTS]

The TK70 will smoke may Crelant made. And I think you guys better do some reading on how far the TK70 will throw and how much lux it really puts out.