Pfizer vaccine contaminated with DNA?

[jtr1962]

Mom and I both got the Moderna injection, twice; 6 months apart. Neither one of us has ever gotten COVID. She had zero side effects. Both times, my arm was sore. And the next day, it felt as though (minus the runny nose and sore throat) that I was in the middle of a bad cold. Each time, only lasted 24 hours.

Unfortunately I got the Pfizer shot but no major side effects. Just felt like the beginnings of a cold for a day or two. No arm soreness. I never got any boosters. I figured since I only went to the store every other week, with an N95 mask, I wasn't putting myself at extraordinary risk by not getting a booster. My mother never got either of the vaccines. Not because I didn't want to, but logistics. We only started returning to her doctor in late 2021. He didn't have the covid shot. Bringing her to Walgreen's wouldn't work. She won't reliably keep a mask on in public. I figured the risk of exposing her to covid while waiting in the store for the shot was higher than just not getting it.

To the best of my knowledge I never got covid, either. Then again I was rigorous about wearing an N95 mask and washing everything from the store as soon as I got home. I only felt comfortable not wearing masks in stores as of late spring this year.

My best friend has had COVID, twice. Each time he told me it felt like he was on the verge of death. First time, because he didn't take it seriously enough. Second time, wasn't his fault. Co-worker came into work who knew he himself was infected but didn't care. Also treated it as a joke! Got everyone who works the line in the kitchen, infected. My best friend was surprisingly relaxed about it. Had that been me, I'd have taken a non-voluntary break from CPF, YouTube, and all my other online social media activities for a good long time. Sitting in a prison cell for teaching someone a valuable lesson about "common courtesy" for others. I regard such individuals as one notch above those who have AIDS, know it, but go out to clubs to randomly infect anyone they encounter for a hook-up because they are just that selfish.

I feel the same. You're sick, stay home. You're not doing anyone any favors, including your employer, by coming in sick.

Four times?? You've been lucky. Let's go to Vegas, I'll pay for your round-trip plane ticket, and hotel accommodations. There are people (non-elderly) who caught it once, and died. Very first recorded case of a young person was a 16 year-old girl. Perfectly healthy. Caught COVID, developed a slight cough, dead the next day. Huge shock to her entire family, and the world.

Exactly why I took major precautions from day one, including not allowing any visitors in the house. That included my brother and sister. A former friend gave me a hard time about it six months in. I told him sorry, your desire to have visits doesn't trump me or my mother's safety. When it first started especially, covid was an unknown. I don't take chances with a new pathogen.

As far as Pfizer, they're done! I'm going to do with Pfizer what I do whenever SureFire FINALLY releases a new flashlight model first promised about 2 or 3 years earlier.... I'm going to let others be Beta Testers with their own money. Wait several months. If everything is Kosher (I'm not even Jewish), then I'll take a chance on the company.

They may well be but I hope mRNA vaccines don't get a bad rap because of them. Poor execution doesn't make something invalid. It would be like everyone deciding never to make cars again because one company made the Yugo.

 

[Monocrom]

ps when i give a like it dont mean i agree with you i apreachate your time and input

Fair enough, my friend.
But whether you agree or not, yeah; that whole gangrene side-effect is real. Though thankfully, I don't need Viagra.

 

[raggie33]

Fair enough, my friend.
But whether you agree or not, yeah; that whole gangrene side-effect is real. Though thankfully, I don't need Viagra.

lol im to ugly to need it

 

[jtr1962]

Fair enough, my friend.
But whether you agree or not, yeah; that whole gangrene side-effect is real. Though thankfully, I don't need Viagra.

My opinion is if you "need" it, then probably mother nature is telling you it's time to just stop having sex. Plus for lots of us these days the issue isn't not being able to get it up, it's simply not finding a partner you want to do anything with.

Gangrene, possible amputation? No thanks. I never thought Viagra was a good idea, but that kind of seals the deal for me. Like a gazillion other drugs, the side effects are often worse than whatever the drug is trying to cure.

Fun fact, neither my mother, me, nor any of my siblings are on any pills. Ages are 84, 60, 59, and 57. That's probably a miracle by today's standards of over-medication. We're probably all a lot healthier for it.

 

[kerneldrop]

Produce and Grocery bags are why Covid spread. I mean there's just no way to use them without licking your fingers

 

[jtr1962]

Produce and Grocery bags are why Covid spread. I mean there's just no way to use them without licking your fingers

That's why I stopped getting grocery bags. I just throw all the stuff in my shopping cart without bags. Saves time when I get home too unloading.

I wash all produce thoroughly before eating it. That's a good idea with or without covid. Contamination with e-coli especially isn't uncommon.

 

[vicv]

Produce and Grocery bags are why Covid spread. I mean there's just no way to use them without licking your fingers

That was the worst. I still now don't lick my fingers anymore. I go to the produce section and wet my fingers on the wet lettuce

 

[raggie33]

i spend 20 minutes trying to open the wrong end

 

[Monocrom]

Those bags can be opened up without licking them. It just takes about 5 minutes of frustratingly rubbing them between your dry hands. Also, some supermarkets use special dispensers where there is no chance of touching more than one bag at a time. Thankfully where I shop, a re-branded Key Food supermarket; they use those dispensers.

 

[Tesla]

More fear-mongering by people who are experts at getting sheep to believe. Here's the fact check on this:
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/s...ave-not-been-shown-to-alter-dna-cause-cancer/
I find it amusing that most who comment on this had trouble passing high school science classes, but just "know" it's accurate because it supports their anti-vax bias.

 

[silat]

Really? Now we're into right wing conspiracy BS?
We need to shine a flashlight on this nonsense.
Claim that COVID-19 mRNA vaccines contain DNA contaminants based on study of vials of "unknown provenance"; no evidence COVID-19 mRNA vaccines can alter DNA in people.

 

[silat]

Fair enough, my friend.
But whether you agree or not, yeah; that whole gangrene side-effect is real. Though thankfully, I don't need Viagra.

You can have covid and never know it. Course that means you can also transmit it.

 

[Monocrom]

You can have covid and never know it. Course that means you can also transmit it.

I think you quoted the wrong comment.
But yes, being a carrier with zero symptoms is something very much real. Which I pointed out numerous times (far too numerous) three years ago to fellow CPFers who thought COVID is no big deal.

 

[xxo]

Really? Now we're into right wing conspiracy BS?

Presence of DNA contamination now confirmed by European Medicines Agency, the FDA and Health Canada.

 

[xxo]

More fear-mongering by people who are experts at getting sheep to believe. Here's the fact check on this:
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/10/s...ave-not-been-shown-to-alter-dna-cause-cancer/
I find it amusing that most who comment on this had trouble passing high school science classes, but just "know" it's accurate because it supports their anti-vax bias.

It is amusing how factcheck.org's always supported the covid prevailing propaganda throughout the pandemic even when the "science" was contradictory.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/05/outdated-fauci-video-on-face-masks-shared-out-of-context/

DNA contamination was a fear-mongering conspiracy theory until proven to be a fact that even factcheck.org could not ignore only now it's real, but only something raised by conspiracy theorists?

BTW concerns with DNA contamination increasing risk of cancer were raised by Moderna back in 2019, but of course they left that out of their fact check article.

 

[kerneldrop]

I imagine the foods most eat are way more unhealthy than a little pharma dna in the body.

 

[Chauncey Gardiner]

... Here we go again. ...

fear-mongering
sheep
trouble passing high school science classes
right wing conspiracy BS

These are not words that encourage respectful dialogue.

 

[raggie33]

im no expert so i listen to the experts .

 

[xxo]

im no expert so i listen to the experts .

But which experts do you believe? Almost no-one in government, the media, not to mention all of the phony fact checkers and internet censors are experts on mRNA vaccines.

One expert, who happens to be the inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology, has been censored and maligned by the above non-experts for questioning the safety and efficacy of the vaccines along with other expert doctors and scientists, even though many of their concerns have been proven valid.

 

[yearnslow]

Irrespective of the efficacy of any of the Covid vaccines, or their contents, the way in which ALL governments and their respective media behaved, is of more concern to me.
To force people to do something, whatever that something is, by publicly maligning them if they don't, seems a tad too authoritarian to me.

It seems to me that a lot of people who enforced these restraints, made an awful lot of money out of it, along with all the shareholders of the major pharmaceutical companies, some of whom were/are in positions that allow them to authorise these restraints.

The whole thing stinks.