FAAbUlights
Newly Enlightened
Does anybody have some output numbers for the Lumens Factory IMR M6 bulb driven by 6 X IMR16340's?
SureFire M6 rechargeable options – SHOOTOUT (Part 2)
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Outdoors Fanatic
Flashlight Enthusiast
That should be a great setup for the M4 Devastator. Short runtime for sure, but incredible..
AvroArrow
Enlightened
Hi DM51,:wave:
I wanted to personally Thank You for creating such a Valuable and Informative thread . My wallet's not thanking you, but I sure am. I never really wanted a M6 until I found this thread (I'm a rechargeable kind of guy), I now have 2 and counting.:thanks:
Best Wishes,
Steve
+1 to what Steve L said.
I started with a used stock M6 (that's missing the lanyard ring) with a single used MN20 (the guy lost/misplaced his MN21). Now I have 6x AW17670s, 1x AW M6 soft-start switch, 2x FM 3x17670 holders, 1x LF HO-M6R, and I just got my 2x FM bi-pin to MN bulb adapters today. Oh yeah, and a Pila IBC charger thanks to kitelights group buy about half a year ago. I think I should have bought 2 Pila IBCs now. As Illum mentioned, it sucks charging 3 cells with a 2-bay charger. Good thing I had a spare WA1185 from my Mag85 build. To get the rechargeable power of the Mag85 build in such a small package (relatively speaking) is awesome. I also don't have to worry about insta-flashing the bulbs since I've got the soft-start. And a 3-level 1185 light is really cool.
Man.... I've probably spent as much if not more on the aftermarket mods than I did on the M6 itself. Actually, correction, I have spent more on the mods than the light itself. But it's been really fun.
All I'm missing now is Mdocod's 2x18650 adapter, a couple AW18650s, and some WA1111 bulbs. 
And maybe a 2nd M6 to use all the duplicate FM parts I bought. I also had a M4 but sold it because I didn't like the feel/balance of the light and most of all, it had nowhere near the staggering amount of aftermarket mods that the M6 has.So, :thanks: DM51 for the great info in this thread. BTW, my wallet hates and utterly despises you. :laughing:
Originally Posted by FAAbUlights
Does anybody have some output numbers for the Lumens Factory IMR M6 bulb driven by 6 X IMR16340's?
Seems like the voltage would be too low with 2 cells and too high for with 4 cells. Is there some combination which would allow the use of this bulb in the M4? :thinking:
3x17670 using 68mm extension unless you have bored out M4 body to take 3x18650
Another choice is 3 IMR 16340 plus a dummy but run time will be very short.
WA1111 produce reasonable light powered by 2x17670 without any extension.
Philips 5761 will work with 2 IMR 18650 with soft start but still too touchy.
DM51
Flashaholic
The IMR-M6 specs given by LF are 10.8V, 3A, 25 hours life, 3350K. The IMR16340 cell is 550mAh, so you'll get ~10 mins runtime.
10 mins is not great, so your next step would probably be to consider a 3x18500 or 3x18650 body to replace the M4 body for longer run-time, but then you'll decide the Fivemega Megalennium body is really much nicer looking and more practical for 3x18650, so you'll get one of those… and then you'll see a photo of a Fivemega FM3X head for it, which you'll decide is an absolutely-must-have item…
… and after a little while, and a lot of $$, you'll hate me just as much as AvroArrow's wallet does! LOL!!
Outdoors Fanatic
Flashlight Enthusiast
Forgive this off-topic question but I didn't want to open a new thread if someone has a quick answer.
Does anyone know the diameter of the M6 lens and is there a UCL equivalent?
I can look up part two of that question myself if I know the size. Thanks for the help as I'm not at home to measure mine tonight.
:thanks:
Does anyone know the diameter of the M6 lens and is there a UCL equivalent?
I can look up part two of that question myself if I know the size. Thanks for the help as I'm not at home to measure mine tonight.
:thanks:
Illum
Flashaholic
why UCL? Unless you plan on going LED UCL is more prone to cracking than the existing pyrex glass :thinking:
Yes sir, LED.
Outdoors Fanatic
Flashlight Enthusiast
The IMR-M6 is only a 3A lamp assembly, so it's perfectly fine for the regular AW 17670 li-ion cells. You don't need IMRs.
Illum
Flashaholic
~2C is a bit brutal on 17670s...they'll come out the same way as using a 1185 with three 17670s
Outdoors Fanatic
Flashlight Enthusiast
3A is well within the safe limits for an AW 17670 cell, it can handle up to 3.2+Amps (2C) with no problem.~2C is a bit brutal on 17670s...they'll come out the same way as using a 1185 with three 17670s
Illum
Flashaholic
yeah, safe...
I didn't feel safe back when I drew 3.3A from those 17670s in my M6-1185 setup. the cell hot really hot in just 20 minutes:green:
With the option of so many LED flashlights out there, why on Earth would anyone still buy a Surefire M6? ...
I have to find out, so I ordered one myself :nana: lovecpf
I got a good deal on an M6 ($235) ... but after getting an AW forward clicky, FM Bi-pin socket, a few WA1185 and WA1111, LF HO-M6R, 2x18650 and 3x17670 battery holders, extra batteries, my wallet is about $400 lighter (at least $400 is when I stopped counting, I'm sure I spent more than that). Parts are come from all over, so I should have everything set up in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to test it out. I even have a spare Pelican case that's waiting for an M6.
DM51, absolutely fantastic thread you started. Similar to many other members, you had me convinced that I need an M6.
I have to find out, so I ordered one myself :nana: lovecpf
I got a good deal on an M6 ($235) ... but after getting an AW forward clicky, FM Bi-pin socket, a few WA1185 and WA1111, LF HO-M6R, 2x18650 and 3x17670 battery holders, extra batteries, my wallet is about $400 lighter (at least $400 is when I stopped counting, I'm sure I spent more than that). Parts are come from all over, so I should have everything set up in a couple of weeks. I can't wait to test it out. I even have a spare Pelican case that's waiting for an M6.
DM51, absolutely fantastic thread you started. Similar to many other members, you had me convinced that I need an M6.
Alberta-Blue
Newly Enlightened
I owe you quite the belated thanks in relation to this thread. Before this thread I was humming an hawing about the options for my M6-R. I wanted a hot output, long throw, and a good runtime.
I ended up choosing the M6 with a Mdocod 17670 holder, AW 17670's, and an LF HO-M6R. It has become my long range search/spot light of choice. Excellent Combo.
I know that this has been said before... but this is those sacred tomb of M6 users...:twothumbs
I ended up choosing the M6 with a Mdocod 17670 holder, AW 17670's, and an LF HO-M6R. It has become my long range search/spot light of choice. Excellent Combo.
I know that this has been said before... but this is those sacred tomb of M6 users...:twothumbs
ShineOnYouCrazyDiamond
Flashlight Enthusiast
IMO this is a great setup. I just got this setup with a true M6 (not a Mega w/ KT4 head which is what I've been running with most options) and I think the HO-M6R is the best "throwing" light I have. It may not be as bright as some other lamps out there (WA1185) which will light a larger area up close but it has great distance.
Snow
Enlightened
Agreed. The HO-M6R is probably the best all around setup IMO and the one I use most often. I finally got a couple of MN21s and MN15s to try for more versatility, but I love the HO-M6R.
DM51
Flashaholic
Welcome to CPF, flashforce.
Fivemega's MN bi-pin sockets are available here (4th run - the link you showed was to the 2nd run)
However, the bulb you show in that "petermercury" link will not fit the FM socket.
Did you read the whole of post #1 of this thread? You'll need a WA 1111 or WA 1185 (or other G4 fitting bi-pin bulb), and then you'll also need the battery holders and cells appropriate for whichever bulb you choose.
Fivemega's MN bi-pin sockets are available here (4th run - the link you showed was to the 2nd run)
However, the bulb you show in that "petermercury" link will not fit the FM socket.
Did you read the whole of post #1 of this thread? You'll need a WA 1111 or WA 1185 (or other G4 fitting bi-pin bulb), and then you'll also need the battery holders and cells appropriate for whichever bulb you choose.
andromeda.73
Banned
great thread, my compliments! :twothumbs
