The SureFire 6PX/G2X Tactical and 6PX/G2X Pro Thread

wacbzz

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The beam is totally different due to a different LED. It is more floody than the regular G2X and has a cooler/whiter beam.

Care to elaborate a bit more on this?

- Can you tell what LED is in this light?
- Any photos of the beams between the regular G2X and the LE?
- Any issues with heat, given the higher output?

Thanks :)
 

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The G2x Pro came in and here is a mini-review.

First impressions: The light is incredibly light, it's a paperweight. On paper, it's only an ounce lighter than a 6P but the 2x123 cells make it even lighter versus a heavy 18650 that I normally run in a bored 6P body.

Looking at it versus Malkoff M61, the beam profile is nearly identical, except slightly more throw and as expected, about 30% more lumens.

The main feature of this light is of course the dual mode. It comes on in the very useful 15 lumen mode and you have to click it off/on to get to the full power 320 lumens, which are beautiful. It's the ultimate survival TSHTF lite. 15 lumens for 45 hours is ideal to conserve the battery while being useful (and not attracting much attention versus full blown 320 lumens).
But in an emergency you click into the High mode and 2-hour runtime.

The low mode is similar to Malkoff M61LLL. The high mode is 30% brigher than Malkoff M61. That's the best reference I can give. The modes are just right.


I hit the bulls-eye with "Luxeon lottery", the tint is very pretty. The beam profile is very nice as well.

Downside: You cannot run anything in but 123. I tried sticking in a 17670 and it does not fit by a fraction of a MM. I removed the plastic wrapping and it does fit but that's not a safe practice to run a cell in it.

Secondly the lense appears to be some kind of plastic, I wiped it off and it left a few micro-scratches. I imagine it's more durable than the 6P glass lense (I have cracked the 6P lense at least twice in the last 7 years) but don't wipe it off, just rinse it with water.
Is it possible to replace the lense with a glass one like the one in 6P?
 
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Glad you like your new G2X! I recommend getting a couple of Keeppower 16650 2500 mAh Li-Ions...every bit as bright and actually longer runtime than with 123s. They fit fine in my G2s and G2X, but I have seen posts on here somewhere where a couple of people have had trouble getting them to fit in their lights, so I guess it's kind of a gamble, but they sure work sweet if they do fit.
 

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Care to elaborate a bit more on this?

- Can you tell what LED is in this light?
- Any photos of the beams between the regular G2X and the LE?
- Any issues with heat, given the higher output?

Thanks :)

--The LE uses a Cree XP-L
--No pics
--Seems to run a bit warmer, but not untouchable, etc...
 

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I am a complete and utter noobie to flashlights and batteries.
I just received my g2x LE. I will be using it during my police academy and beyond so I would like to get into the habit of using rechargables. Before I order stuff and have to deal with the hassle of returning stuff, I wanted to clarify here.
If I were to order 16650 2500mah batteries and a charger for them, should I expect to have the same run-time and brightness out of my light?

If this is the case, would anyone be willing to provide an ebay or amazon link with a charger and battery kit?

Thank you.
 

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One Li-Ion 16650 cell has less capacity and runtime than 2 CR123A cells... Now one 18650 will match 2x123 but with 16650 we are talking about 2500 mAh * 4.2
versus 1660mah * 2 * 3V. Elementary math shows that 2 primary cells will last longer.

that's the price you pay for "guilt free lumens".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2PCS-Sanyo-...199?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ad7944c47

You don't need a 'protected' cell. when it starts to get dim, just swap it for a new one. protection circuit can fail at the worst possible time.
 
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One Li-Ion 16650 cell has less capacity and runtime than 2 CR123A cells... Now one 18650 will match 2x123 but with 16650 we are talking about 2500 mAh * 4.2
versus 1660mah * 2 * 3V. Elementary math shows that 2 primary cells will last longer.

that's the price you pay for "guilt free lumens".

You don't need a 'protected' cell. when it starts to get dim, just swap it for a new one. protection circuit can fail at the worst possible time.

Here's a graph by 880arm aka flashlightguide.com.
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One Li-Ion 16650 cell has less capacity and runtime than 2 CR123A cells... Now one 18650 will match 2x123 but with 16650 we are talking about 2500 mAh * 4.2
versus 1660mah * 2 * 3V. Elementary math shows that 2 primary cells will last longer.

16650: 4,2V * 2500 mAh = 10.500 Wh

2* CR123 : 2 * 3V * 1660 mAh = 9.960 Wh

Greetings
 

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Thank you for the information so far. While doing more searching around on my own I found rcr123a kits that include multiple batteries and a wall and vehicle charger. How do those stack up?
 

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This is a good question for the "Batteries" section, not so much a G2x issue. They got gurus there who know more than anyone.
But I can tell you this much. I have never used RCR123A stuff. No reason to. Too low capacity. Use 1 (one) Li-Ion cell 16650. It is apparently as bright as standard 123s, easier to recharge (one cell to deal with versus multiple RCR123A). I would be kind of worried about using multiple RCR cells, what if they don't discharge evenly.

I have used Li-ion 18650, 17670, 18500 and now 16650 for a long time and they never failed me, IMO it's the best chemistry. 18650 is really the best you can get but it's too big to fit into G2x so you end up with a 16mm cell.

I have a ton of 17670 cells and they don't fit by a fraction of a millimeter into G2x. *sigh* Looks like I will be investing in some 16mm cells.

Back on topic. I like Nitrolon. Didn't think I would. It is super to metal.
 
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I went to a local sporting goods place today to look for a G2X Pro LE. Of course they didn't have one, but they did have the regular Pro. The price?

$95 :eek:oo:

i opened the SF website to show them the SF RETAIL price of $70 and was essentially told that $95 was the price and that I could buy it directly from SF if I didn't like their price!!

Needless to say, I was shocked that they 1) responded how they did, and 2) that they would be ripping people off like that.

Anybody else run run into something like this?
 

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I went to a local sporting goods place today to look for a G2X Pro LE. Of course they didn't have one, but they did have the regular Pro. The price?

$95 :eek:oo:

i opened the SF website to show them the SF RETAIL price of $70 and was essentially told that $95 was the price and that I could buy it directly from SF if I didn't like their price!!

Needless to say, I was shocked that they 1) responded how they did, and 2) that they would be ripping people off like that.

Anybody else run run into something like this?

All the time. The only time I've seen "good" prices on Surefires at local retail outlets was a few years ago when Cabelas was closing out 9Ps and E2Es for $50 each. In retrospect, I should've bought every single one they had in the store :(

I do about 90% of my buying online now. Amazon, eBay, etc.
 

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A local gun store was asking $3 each for Surefire CR123's or $36 for a box of 12.
I love supporting local business, but you have to draw the line somewhere.
 

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So I received my new G2X Pro LE from SF this morning. As it's not night here, I cannot provide any beam shots. But as there are no photos of this light, I took a couple...

Just like any other G2X Pro in looks - except for the LE designation:

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From the front:

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A perfect fit with a Keeppower 16650:

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And finally, a shot of the inside of the head (which, btw, is not removable without a lot of force!):

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Hopefully, I can get some beamshots tonight. I don't have a regular G2X (Pro or otherwise) to compare it to, but I have a few other lights that should work...
 
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Nice light. Despite my current political SF position, the G2X is what initially sucked me in. Very solid light to boot. 400 with a polymer body is rather unique. Has anyone ran these through a light meter? I wonder if they're underrating it by 100 lumens like they did to the Fury....
 

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Nice setup...you will love it I'm sure. Those batteries work so well with these lights, SF should offer them as an alternative to 123s.
 
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