The WOW factor new light

[LED_Thrift]

Wanna' know WHICH battery size !
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18650 for runtime in a larger pocket-carry size, or rcr123 like an updated Rainier?

 

[jorgen]

Based strictly on the price with XML & QTC, I'd say a 18650 battery is highly unlikely unless Peak is having a introductory giveaway.

 

[Snow]

Sounds like a must-buy.

 

[FatRat]

Brass pocket!!!

 

[jorgen]

+1 for pocket

 

[smokelaw1]

There is only one SF light that has a greater Lumen output than the
Vesuvius, and it uses 3 CR123A batteries and cost $695 USD. The
Vesuvius in HA will cost 1/10 th the money and be pocket-able. It
uses the Cree XML LED and is driven at up to 1.9 Amps to the LED.
That is 650 Lumens bare bulb. Out the front Lumens will be at least
double or more than that of any other light of remotely close the the
size of the Vesuvius. And that includes all of SF's other LED lights and
that of any other manufacturers lights.

Curt

I believe the only thing left to do is the obligatory "I'll take it!!"

This sounds amazing, Curt. I just replaced my keychain light with a peak. Now you're making a run at my EDC pocket light. I'm thinking IMR6340, longer than say a Quark MiniX, and probably thicker (more substantial), but with these lumens and a QTC at this price, it sounds like a real winner!!

 

[Curt R]

The Vesuvius will use a reflector that I have to modify. Do to the time frame
of this build I only have 17 in stock and will have to order more today. All of
them will go to RMSK as soon as I get them built. I also have to modify heat
sinks and stock heads so everything will fit together.

We were able to get some IMR brand 10440 batteries that work very well and
one of them holds constant output at 1.9 Amps. Yes, it is a AAA battery size
flashlight. I need to do testing with other brand 10440s to see how they hold
up under the strain.

An IMR 10440 LiMn High Drain 350mAh 3.7v Rechargeable Battery is perfect
for powering your Vesuvius ultra output flashlight. The Vesuvius is designed
to use LiMn high drain batteries for optimum performance. Lithium Manganese
(LiMn) high drain batteries are commonly used for power tools, medical
instruments, as well as hybrid and electric vehicles. High drain batteries are
perfectly suited for use in high performance electronic systems. These powerful
modern batteries deliver outstanding performance which makes them the best
choice to maintain constant maximum light output in the Vesuvius flashlight.
Standard 10440 LiCo batteries show a steady drop in output at maximum.
Standard 10440 batteries work fine with the Vesuvius but for that WOW factor
we recommend the IMR brand batteries.


There will be a heat issue with such a small, (read tiny), light with that amount
of power output, but that is why there is the QTC for adjustable output right
down to almost nothing. Quality of the battery is the most important factor with
this light. Not every battery will be able to give an output of up to 650 Lumens.
DWF was over and he had one that delivered 2.3 Amps to the LED, but that is
not normal. Most freshly charged units that I have start out at 1.6 Amps. The
batteries that I have are over a year old and have been charged more than a few
times. A battery that has been over discharged will not perform well with this light.

Proper use of this light is a must. This light is not for the uninformed and definitely
not for children. Do not turn on at full power and leave unattended, the heat buildup
very rapidly can cause damage to the battery and burns to skin.

At up to 600 OTF Lumens in a light that is only slightly larger in diameter than an Eiger,
that is why we said WOW when we first lit it off. No one that you show it to is
going to believe that that much light can come out of something that small. But with
the QTC it is also practical.

The first delivery to RMSK will be Key Ring HA Aluminum. Later we will make some in
Brass and finally in SS. All will be Key Ring styles only. We also have some 2 x AAA
bodies, however use only Standard Alkaline or Lithium 1.5 and 1.6 volt batteries in
the 2 x AAA bodies. The output with 2 x AAA batteries is about 160 Lumens and a
run time of about three hours. A single Standard battery will not power this light.

This is a flashlight for hard core flashlight user only!

Curt

 

[jorgen]

10440,incedible! Gotta get one/

 

[Death's Head]

This is the first light designed from the ground up to use QTC. One thing that I did noticed owning several QTC Logans and a few QTC Eigers, oh and not to mention the Volcan is that the lights with larger heads seems to ramp up and down smoother that the lights with smaller heads. I'm guessing it's due to the length of travel of the head along the threads when twisting. Hopefully, this light will either have a head slightly larger than the Eiger, or at least the threads designed for QTC use if at all possible.

 

[jabe1]

Curt,Is the momentary switch a viable accessory for this light?

Are you using the Baltic Sea model as a basis for this (more heatsink area) or is it a new design?

 

[calipsoii]

Hoo boy, when you said it was small, you weren't kidding. AAA-sized XM-L driven off an IMR10440? :sweat:

Looking forward to seeing the end result, especially the aforementioned heatsink. Doubly looking forward to seeing it in brass!

 

[notrefined]

darn, I was really hoping for an 18650

 

[jorgen]

Hard to imagine a AAA almost 3 times brighter than my Eiger on a 10440. I don't know what use it will be for me, but I'm in for one, for sure.
I'd like to know if threads will be compatible with any other model, specifically the 90 degree angle heads, but I suppose I'll have to wait until it arrives and see for myself.
Now the hunt begins for IMR 10440 batteries. I believe AW makes them but they are not included in their CPF sales thread. it sure would make life simpler if Bob at RMSK gets some (hint).

 

[jorgen]

dBob has a picture of the Vesuvius on his site. I am surprised that although the body resembles the Volcan, as I envisioned it would, but the head is smaller and is styled like the Logan, etc.

 

[Curt R]

RMSK does not have a real one yet, but he wanted to put up a picture
of a light close to what it will be. He will change the picture later.

If you do a web search for IMR10440, will will be able to get them from
some smoke shops. That battery is used in those imitation cigarets.

Maybe AW would stock them if there is a call for them. He stocks some
of the other IMR brand batteries in different sizes.

We do have 90 degree angle adapters, they use the same thread as the
Shasta and Baltic Sea lights.

Curt

 

[Death's Head]

Hey Curt, is there any chance of a momentary switch version?

 

[saabluster]

This is a flashlight for hard core flashlight user only!

You rang?

Very impressive Curt. I think this may be the first light I will have bought in a long long time for personal consumption. :thumbsup:

 

[slate]

Curt,

Will the light run on a stanard alk aaa with limited output if your 10440 runs dry?

 

[Death's Head]

Curt,

Will the light run on a stanard alk aaa with limited output if your 10440 runs dry?

Paraphrasing one of Curt's posts on the first page, he said a single, standard battery will not power this flashlight.

 

[smokelaw1]

Curt,

Do you have suggestions for which IMR10440s work the best with this light? Not even sure if I have an appropriate charger for these. Not sure if the BC-6 goes low enough in charge rate to be safe!!