The WOW factor new light

[tony22]

Wow! Wow! Wow! I've been toying with the idea of getting a Peak and now this pops up. Call me hooked. Curt, strictly from a performance POV will the Al model be better than the SS because of differences in heat sinking? I'd love to get the SS, but if at this output Al would be a better material I'd have to consider that as my first choice.

 

[Loomin]

watching and waiting

 

[Curt R]

The momentary switch will work with this light.

The small size and potential power output will negate any difference
between Aluminum, Brass or Stainless Steel body and head. With a
power draw of 6.5 watts we would like a flashlight surface area of
65 square inches for heat removal. This light is only 3 square inches.
Use this light with great care!

I do not know if there is more than one manufacturer of IMR type batteries.
I also have no idea how long or how many charges you can get out of the
IMR battery with the Vesuvius light. That will be up to your usage requirements
and how often and how long you run it at full power.

Retail price of the HA Aluminum version is $59.95 USD.

We have 2 x AAA bodies also available, they are limited to a maximum of 3.5 volts.
There should be little difference between run time and output between Alkaline
and Lithium primary batteries in that setup. Output at about 160 Lumens max for
about three hours. A good practical penlight for the shirt pocket. 2 x AAA NiMh
batteries will not provide the required voltage for the Vesuvius.

Curt

 

[Curt R]

You rang?

Very impressive Curt. I think this may be the first light I will have bought in a long long time for personal consumption. :thumbsup:

I wonder how it would work if you converted it into a DEFT style optic?

Curt

 

[the_guy_with_no_name]

The momentary switch will work with this light.

The small size and potential power output will negate any difference
between Aluminum, Brass or Stainless Steel body and head. With a
power draw of 6.5 watts we would like a flashlight surface area of
65 square inches for heat removal. This light is only 3 square inches.
Use this light with great care!

I do not know if there is more than one manufacturer of IMR type batteries.
I also have no idea how long or how many charges you can get out of the
IMR battery with the Vesuvius light. That will be up to your usage requirements
and how often and how long you run it at full power.

Retail price of the HA Aluminum version is $59.95 USD.

We have 2 x AAA bodies also available, they are limited to a maximum of 3.5 volts.
There should be little difference between run time and output between Alkaline
and Lithium primary batteries in that setup. Output at about 160 Lumens max for
about three hours. A good practical penlight for the shirt pocket. 2 x AAA NiMh
batteries will not provide the required voltage for the Vesuvius.

Curt

Hi Curt,

Congratulations and sounds like a great little light.

For the 2xAAA body's, users wanting a high output will be better of with only the Lithium primaries.

Using 2 x duracell AAA may not be able to provide more than 100-150 lumens to the XM-L (assuming a T6 Bin),
because the voltage sag that occurs above 400mA draw per cell, will probably be under the Vf required to power the XM-L.

The Lithium primaries should be good for a much higher draw but probably max out around 1A because the VF increases with power to the XM-L.

tgwnn

 

[eala]

We do have 90 degree angle adapters, they use the same thread as the
Shasta and Baltic Sea lights.

Curt

Are the Shasta or Baltic bodies compatible with any of the other current Mountain series lights (El Cap, Logan, Volcan, etc)?

Thanks,
eala

 

[Curt R]

Hi Curt,

Congratulations and sounds like a great little light.

For the 2xAAA body's, users wanting a high output will be better of with only the Lithium primaries.

Using 2 x duracell AAA may not be able to provide more than 100-150 lumens to the XM-L (assuming a T6 Bin),
because the voltage sag that occurs above 400mA draw per cell, will probably be under the Vf required to power the XM-L.

The Lithium primaries should be good for a much higher draw but probably max out around 1A because the VF increases with power to the XM-L.

tgwnn

Thank you. We had all the parts on the shelf, we just needed to make some
minor adjustments. We had been thinking of using the XML as a an update to
the Rainier that uses the P7 in a direct drive mode, but the LED voltage drop is
too low for that application. We may use a Buck/Boost circuit for that app.
The IMR10440 would automatically limit current to the LED. I measured 430 mA
using two Alkaline batteries to the XML, two Lithium primary batteries may give a
little more, but I doubt that they would get close to 1 Amp. We'll see.

Curt

 

[jabe1]

It might be interesting to try 3x 2/3AAA Nimh in a 2xAAA tube..... they might be a tad bit too long though.

 

[BVH]

RMSK does not have a real one yet, but he wanted to put up a picture
of a light close to what it will be. He will change the picture later.



Curt

First time into the Peak sub forum. This sounds like it's right up my alley. Who is RMSK and is this where one can buy one of these?

Also, is the PeakLedSoultions website down? I get the into page with the Peak Logo but none of the tabs function.

 

[stoli67]

If it is AAA sized then I definatley need one!

Please if there is a list then put me on it.

 

[DUMDUM]

BVH here is the website to order the Vesuvius when I get them in stock
http://www.em-mgt.com/LED/Vesuvius.html
Thanks
Bob

 

[Drywolf]

Nevermind.....

 

[BVH]

BVH here is the website to order the Vesuvius when I get them in stock
http://www.em-mgt.com/LED/Vesuvius.html
Thanks
Bob

Thanks! Looks like there is no pre-order on the site nor a waiting list here on CPF, correct?

Also, I didn't see any dimensions published in this thread - or I missed them. Are they available yet?

 

[the_guy_with_no_name]

I measured 430 mA
using two Alkaline batteries to the XML, two Lithium primary batteries may give a
little more, but I doubt that they would get close to 1 Amp. We'll see.
Curt

Yes, I think you are right about the primaries.
I was thinking of a driver somehow.

I just checked the data sheet on the lithium primaries and it looks like whilst they are rated for continuous discharge above 1A,
the voltage sag kicks in quickly even at 600mA.
They may be a good for a quick power surge of a few seconds but then they will probably stabilize around the same level of alkalines.

tgwnn

 

[stoli67]

Brass.... no Titanium..... probably would not conduct enough heat for the LED to stay alive!

 

[tony22]

Sweet. Any inkling of about how much more the SS will cost over the HA version?

 

[JHCANDLEPOWER]

PROTECTED 10440

Hi Curt,
I have a copper maratac AAA. Unfortunately protected AAA is too tight to work in it. Will Vesuvius have enough space to accomodate protected cells? Will that current draw trip the protection? Looking forward to seeing the final product. Is there a current model that shares a family resemblence?

Oh yeah, +1 for brass and +1,000,000 for neutral white.

 

[DUMDUM]

Re: PROTECTED 10440

Hope that they will be in this week. There is no preorder list first come basis.
Thanks
Bob

 

[Curt R]

Re: PROTECTED 10440

Protected 10440 cells are too long for this light. Also they will kick out
as the current draw is far too high, that's why it is a protected cell.

As a look see as to what the light looks like, just go to the sticky at the
top of this sub forum and scroll down till you find the Baltic Sea lights
under the Ocean series. The Vesuvius is identical in size and appearance
to the Baltic. The HA units will use the Shasta head, however some of the
Brass and Stainless units may use the Baltic head. Depends what I have
on the shelf.

Curt

 

[DUMDUM]

Re: PROTECTED 10440

The picture that I have of the Vesuvius is the ShastaX which is what Curt says the light will look like.
Thanks
Bob