357mag1
Enlightened
I received my S1 and did some preliminary testing.
I will list what I like, dislike and a concern with the light.
Like:
1. Very close to the TK70 in performance on Max setting.
2. Much smaller form factor than the TK70
3. Being able to set my own output level
4. Is built like a tank like the discontinued TK20.
5. Nimh D cells will fit in the tube. I ran it with 3D cells and it worked great. On the bench of course, no way will the length of 3D nimhs fit with the tailcap. Now if we could convince XTAR to produce an extension so we have the option of Nimh D cells.
Dislike:
1. 658u Amps draw when in the OFF position. That will drain a 2600mah 18650s dry in about 5.5 months. Make sure you loosen that tailcap.
2. I have accidentally turned from "Preselect" to "Select" about half a dozen times so far. Which messes up my carefully chosen "Preselect" setting. Wish it had a lock out feature where you had to turn quickly between "Preselect" and "Select" twice to initiate changing the "Preselect" level. This would keep idiots like me from repeatedly going through the ramp sequence to reset my "Preselect" level.
Concern:
Tailcap current with 3 fully charged IMR 18650 cells measured 7.86amps at the tailcap. It is the same with my LG 2800mah cells, some of the best Lithium cells I've tested. Lesser quality cells or slightly depleted cells all read lower tailcap current. This is backwards for a regulated light. Slightly depleted cells should draw more current at the tailcap to maintain the same current through the LED.
So all I can conclude is my light is not regulated like the production versions Selfbuilt and Candle Lamp received for testing. If other purchasers confirm their light does the same we have to wonder why XTAR sent regulated versions to testers and gave the public unregulated versions.
I'm going out on a limb here without all of the facts (perhaps others have regulated lights and mine is a fluke). I can think of at least one reason why XTAR might be inclined to do this (If they did it would still be wrong). The S1 starts out drawing almost 8amps using freshly charged batteries so by mid run on a regulated light it should be pulling over 9amps. This works out to over 3amps per battery and will climb higher further into the run. Perhaps XTAR is worried such a high draw could cause issues with some of the lower/questionable quality Lithium Ion cells on the market.
For those of you who might be a little fuzzy on how a regulated light should function. Lets use my fully regulated TK70 as an example. With fresh cells I measure about 7amps at the tailcap and after the cells have been in the light for about 15 minutes tailcap current has already climbed to 8.25amps and will climb even higher as the batteries near the end of their capacity. That is how a regulated light works.
Without a doubt my XTAR is not a regulated light or at least it is very poorly regulated like the pre-production version.
So does anyone else have a good meter and the ability to verify tailcap measurements on their "PRODUCTION" version XTAR S1?
I will list what I like, dislike and a concern with the light.
Like:
1. Very close to the TK70 in performance on Max setting.
2. Much smaller form factor than the TK70
3. Being able to set my own output level
4. Is built like a tank like the discontinued TK20.
5. Nimh D cells will fit in the tube. I ran it with 3D cells and it worked great. On the bench of course, no way will the length of 3D nimhs fit with the tailcap. Now if we could convince XTAR to produce an extension so we have the option of Nimh D cells.
Dislike:
1. 658u Amps draw when in the OFF position. That will drain a 2600mah 18650s dry in about 5.5 months. Make sure you loosen that tailcap.
2. I have accidentally turned from "Preselect" to "Select" about half a dozen times so far. Which messes up my carefully chosen "Preselect" setting. Wish it had a lock out feature where you had to turn quickly between "Preselect" and "Select" twice to initiate changing the "Preselect" level. This would keep idiots like me from repeatedly going through the ramp sequence to reset my "Preselect" level.
Concern:
Tailcap current with 3 fully charged IMR 18650 cells measured 7.86amps at the tailcap. It is the same with my LG 2800mah cells, some of the best Lithium cells I've tested. Lesser quality cells or slightly depleted cells all read lower tailcap current. This is backwards for a regulated light. Slightly depleted cells should draw more current at the tailcap to maintain the same current through the LED.
So all I can conclude is my light is not regulated like the production versions Selfbuilt and Candle Lamp received for testing. If other purchasers confirm their light does the same we have to wonder why XTAR sent regulated versions to testers and gave the public unregulated versions.
I'm going out on a limb here without all of the facts (perhaps others have regulated lights and mine is a fluke). I can think of at least one reason why XTAR might be inclined to do this (If they did it would still be wrong). The S1 starts out drawing almost 8amps using freshly charged batteries so by mid run on a regulated light it should be pulling over 9amps. This works out to over 3amps per battery and will climb higher further into the run. Perhaps XTAR is worried such a high draw could cause issues with some of the lower/questionable quality Lithium Ion cells on the market.
For those of you who might be a little fuzzy on how a regulated light should function. Lets use my fully regulated TK70 as an example. With fresh cells I measure about 7amps at the tailcap and after the cells have been in the light for about 15 minutes tailcap current has already climbed to 8.25amps and will climb even higher as the batteries near the end of their capacity. That is how a regulated light works.
Without a doubt my XTAR is not a regulated light or at least it is very poorly regulated like the pre-production version.
So does anyone else have a good meter and the ability to verify tailcap measurements on their "PRODUCTION" version XTAR S1?
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