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orbital said:
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If there's a neighbor near, get them a $100 gift card at a nice restaurant to look the other way..... neighbors looking out for neighbors


add: to the OP, a Gift Card is something still worth buying🤓
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We've done similar when we plan on having a loud party. I'm a musician and have had live bands play at the house. We let the surrounding neighbors know and invite them over to party with us, but also offer a dinner out at local restaurant if they'd prefer that. Most don't really care, some have come over and partied with us. The couple across the street always take the dinner out.

We also have wine and cheese tasting, chili competitions (we all judge each other's chili. I never win). A lot of cul-de-sacs in my neighborhood and block parties are pretty common.

Neighbors looking out for neighbors.
 
bluflaam777 said:
I use Craig's list all the time. I just meet them in a dark alley or under a bridge. Don't want anyone sneaking up on us while we transact.
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orbital said:
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Why buy the permit?

Before I had my new well punched, had a contractor tell me I needed to have my old well decommissioned.
Probably would have been a full day of two guys seriously over billing.

YEAH , I'll get back to you having that done
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Just as an FYI, a non-functional well can be a disaster for contaminating the ground water.
And, in many states, you're going to have a hell of a time selling property with that (fixing it tends to just get more expensive with time), and/or you can run into some nasty headaches for your estate (if you don't move and age out of the property).

In my area, we've had some contamination issues come up over the years, and then the counties have to investigate.
If you've got an uncapped well and/or an unpermitted well, you can get TURBOFUDGED, which can easily bankrupt you with liabilities. God forbid your wells are actually SHOWN to have contributed to whatever issue is going on.
But also, if you've got another well you're using...just...yeah...that seems like a needless risk.

If your neighbor had issues come up, you could end up getting sued, and/or be responsible for making them ill (depending on your neighbors, that could be the worse outcome).

I tend to treat such matters like insurance; it's not that I love paying for these things, but it's that I love the peace of mind of not risking my entire financial future over saving (what amounts to be, in the grand scheme of things) a little bit of money...and I'm a cheapskate.

At a personal level, uncapped wells can be a major source of all kinds of groundwater pollutants, so you might want to maybe get some quotes on getting that fixed.
Here in the Midwest, crop runoff during rain can easily seep in, leading to crazy high levels of things you don't want in your water, as they can have negative impacts, long-term...and you could have been consuming multiples of the safe levels for years or decades. And, there's just a multitude of random things that can seep in.
 
Monocrom said:
Shocking but I believe it. Some moronic Safety N@Z! here in NYC decided that certain types of elevators are unsafe. So, they need to be converted to have double brake pumps instead of single ones
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I got stuck in an elevator because of the "improved" safety mechanisms added to it. 1970s traction elevators. They were extremely reliable, 100% relay driven, never had issues with them. Sometime after 2001, the regulations changed that the cabin door had to physically lock, not just be held shut by the AC door operator. If you felt motivated, you could manually open it with your fingers. So, someone retrofitted a solenoid setup on ours. I had gotten off work late and drove home. It was 3am, Saturday night / Sunday morning. I get on the elevator, the door closes, I hear the solenoid engage. Car moves up, stops at the landing, solenoid is dead silent. Crap. Well, really, p*ss, as that was the first thing that hit my mind: I really needed a wee. I knew the mechanic was likely 1+ hour away. No bueno.

I had my toolbag with me that night as I had worked a music concert. More importantly, I was exhausted, needed a wee, and that turned into anger. I took a hex driver out of my bag and went to town on the car's panel. I jumpered the Fire Service switch on, then proceeded to bang away on the open/close buttons. Eventually the door opened. BUT.. remember, it's now 3:30am, I was exhausted, still needed to wee, and was still angry. I propped the door open, then proceeded to disconnect every wire on the panel, peeling the number stickers off the wire as I went. THEN I pushed the phone button and put in the entrapment call, letting the door close behind me. I did leave a nasty note about the solenoids. The elevator was down for a day. BUT when it returned to service, both the solenoid on it and the one next to it had been removed.

bluflaam777 said:
I'm with you. However, if a neighbor calls and the city comes out. Not only will you have to get the permit anyway, you'll probably get fined also. Legal extortion.
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That's what holiday weekends and nights are for. You should have seen all of the construction which went on down here during the lockdowns. I'd never seen contractors and workers move so quickly! Remember, once the walls are up, whatever is behind them now magically meets code.
 
Schokokeks said:
Just as an FYI, a non-functional well can be a disaster for contaminating the ground water.
And, in many states, you're going to have a hell of a time selling property with that (fixing it tends to just get more expensive with time), and/or you can run into some nasty headaches for your estate (if you don't move and age out of the property).

In my area, we've had some contamination issues come up over the years, and then the counties have to investigate.
If you've got an uncapped well and/or an unpermitted well, you can get TURBOFUDGED, which can easily bankrupt you with liabilities. God forbid your wells are actually SHOWN to have contributed to whatever issue is going on.
But also, if you've got another well you're using...just...yeah...that seems like a needless risk.

If your neighbor had issues come up, you could end up getting sued, and/or be responsible for making them ill (depending on your neighbors, that could be the worse outcome).

I tend to treat such matters like insurance; it's not that I love paying for these things, but it's that I love the peace of mind of not risking my entire financial future over saving (what amounts to be, in the grand scheme of things) a little bit of money...and I'm a cheapskate.

At a personal level, uncapped wells can be a major source of all kinds of groundwater pollutants, so you might want to maybe get some quotes on getting that fixed.
Here in the Midwest, crop runoff during rain can easily seep in, leading to crazy high levels of things you don't want in your water, as they can have negative impacts, long-term...and you could have been consuming multiples of the safe levels for years or decades. And, there's just a multitude of random things that can seep in.
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who drilled your last well? ^

mine is capped within pipe, that's why I needed a new well in the first placed.
and 0% chance of runoff/incursion where I live.. it's mechanically sealed also
 
bluflaam777 said:
I'm with you. However, if a neighbor calls and the city comes out. Not only will you have to get the permit anyway, you'll probably get fined also. Legal extortion.
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Yup, there are some neighbors who are THAT petty.
If you live in an isolated plot of land deep in the woods with no neighbors, you can get away with no permit.
 
Monocrom said:
Yup, there are some neighbors who are THAT petty.
If you live in an isolated plot of land deep in the woods with no neighbors, you can get away with no permit.
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I'm gonna retire in one of those places. Basic fed building codes that no one checks on once you're living there. Spring water on property. Also a small crick cuts across it. Thinking about digging a pond at one end ...we'll have to see about that part. It's pretty rocky.
Otherwise, nobody knows nothin' 'bout nothin'. I ain't talking.
 
TPA said:
I got stuck in an elevator because of the "improved" safety mechanisms added to it. 1970s traction elevators. They were extremely reliable, 100% relay driven, never had issues with them.
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Now and then, I find myself in an old building that has one of the 1960s/1970s vintage "old reliables". Good, solid elevators, by and large, though most seem slow by comparison to the newfangled stuff that gets installed these days.

Possibly just anecdotal, but I can't recall any of the old units ever being out, when I'm at the older buildings. In most of those, the "good stuff" was installed during the heyday of the area.
 
orbital said:
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who drilled your last well? ^

mine is capped within pipe, that's why I needed a new well in the first placed.
and 0% chance of runoff/incursion where I live.. it's mechanically sealed also
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Oh, thank god.

Yeah, that shouldn't be an issue, then.

I thought you meant you just drilled a second one and let the other sit there (which I've seen people do, haha).
 
There's a guy in the UK who dug an underground bunker (not Colin Furze) and it working on burying part of a 737 fuselage as an addition. While digging, he found a buried one foot diameter, steel well pipe. It had been fitted with a wooden cap. IIRC he measured it to be at least 60 feet to the bottom and there's plenty of water depth. Fortunately it's not in the way of his bunker expansion plans. If the water's good he's going to use it as a supply for the bunker.

His property was formerly some military base and that was probably a well used for the base.
 
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The Corvette was first introduced in 1953
73 years produced & still worth buying

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personally partial to the C6
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