KDOG3
Flashlight Enthusiast
So they finally officially bumped the max output up to 110L. for some reason I thought they were going to bump the runtime from 1.3Hrs to 1.5hrs but it seems to be the same. Anyway just FYI
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Nice KDog...is this the same story as the L4, where they rated it at 65, then updated it on paper to 100, because it always was 100, or did they upgrade the E1B? My E1B definitely seems brighter than 80 lumens...
They updated the LED to increase the lumens from 80 to 110. There is definitely a difference.
The only problem is that they have not updated their packaging, so it still says 80 lumens, even with the 110 lumen models. We just received a shipment from them that still has 80 lumens on the front but were confirmed repeatedly to be the 110 models. I'm guessing they had a few thousand 80 lumen packages sitting around that they had to work through.
I'm sorry but that's just stupid. How much money could surefire have really lost to have just thrown out the old packaging and replace it with the new advertising 110 lumens? I guess this might sound silly, but if I ever decide to get an E1B, Im going to wait till it released with the updated packaging. I'm a little OCD and if I bought one with an 80 lumen package I would constantly wonder if I had really gotten the newest 110 lumen version, Thanks for clearing up this mystery goinggear.com.
From what I gather, the E1B has been producing 110 lumens since it was released.
If that's true, wihich it is, then I wonder how much the new improved version is putting out?
110 lumens. 80 lumens was a pre-production 'estimate'.
SureFire has been taking a fresh look at the lumen outputs of its products in production. This has resulted in two main reasons for updating product lumen ratings:
1) some models getting actual production ratings rather than the pre-production ratings they had
2) some models getting updated production ratings following the phasing in of higher output LEDs
SureFire are using the new Flashlight Standard they helped develop so their ratings are more accurate and updated more frequently as necessary.
110 lumens. 80 lumens was a pre-production 'estimate'.
SureFire has been taking a fresh look at the lumen outputs of its products in production. This has resulted in two main reasons for updating product lumen ratings:
1) some models getting actual production ratings rather than the pre-production ratings they had
2) some models getting updated production ratings following the phasing in of higher output LEDs
SureFire are using the new Flashlight Standard they helped develop so their ratings are more accurate and updated more frequently as necessary.
You see this is what I'm talking about. Size15's is saying nothing changed, the light has always put out 110 lumens, whereas goinggear.com states they got a shipment in and the newer ones are using an updated LED and are brighter. It seems there are equal members on both sides of this contraversy.
I guess the only way to find out is for a few of us who wouldn't mind buying a second E1B with the newly rated 110 lumens to buy it and compare them side by side. I saw goinggear's 110 lumens E1B video on YouTube and I was expecting to see them do a side by side comparo with the older 80 lumens one but I guess I lucked out. I had expected to see that in the video because GG claimed that the 110 lumens is slightly brighter, which also means that they have the older one to compare against to make that statement. Nothing against goinggear.com here, just voicing my maybe unrealistic expectations.
In the case of the E2DL the original output was under-rated, and the E2DL was improved for a higher output.Hi Al, there is something not quite consistent with what I see personally and what I have read based on what you have said. I happened to have the chance to test a few 120 lumens E2DL against the newer 200 lumens E2DL and everytime I try it, the ones rated 200 lumens looks a tad brighter than the 120 lumens version. If Surefire had only re-invented the way they project their lumen ratings to give a more realistic output, why am I seeing some difference here? Does it only happen to the E2DL?
In the case of the E2DL the original output was under-rated, and the E2DL was improved for a higher output.
I guess the only way to find out is for a few of us who wouldn't mind buying a second E1B with the newly rated 110 lumens to buy it and compare them side by side. I saw goinggear's 110 lumens E1B video on YouTube and I was expecting to see them do a side by side comparo with the older 80 lumens one but I guess I lucked out. I had expected to see that in the video because GG claimed that the 110 lumens is slightly brighter, which also means that they have the older one to compare against to make that statement. Nothing against goinggear.com here, just voicing my maybe unrealistic expectations.