$400 ASUS Eee PC: User opinion(s) wanted

Oregon: I assume you've seen this, but I'll include it for others who are new to this product:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASUS_Eee_PC

I don't have one, but, like you, I've been following the story for several months. I'm going to haunt CNET, amazon, and other sites, looking for a review of a production model. Perhaps we can post links here. This could be my next computer, but I'm going to wait and see.

Regards,
Dirty Bob

Edited to add:
OOPS! I checked CNET and found a review. Here you go!

http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/asus-eee-pc-4g/4505-3121_7-32466960.html?tag=prod.txt.1

All my best,
DB
 
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Thank you kindly Thujone for the downloadable review.

Unfortunately, my my dialup couldn't swallow it whole. Did the reviewers give it a thumbs up or thumbs down?

You know what. Because there are no users here chiming in that alone gives me a hint about the gotta-have-it-ness of this surfer gadget.

However, I can't see it from a newby's point of view. This baby may just be a source of happiness for a beloved father-in-law. But he would also need internet access. They have cable in Ashland, OR so he would need a cable modem and a wireless setup. This means monthly fees and a couple of spark boxes. Hmmm... Still complicated. Unless he could piggyback on his neighbor's wireless. I wonder how much of a drag he would be on the neighbor's wireless connection? Perhaps I could swing a deal with this neighbor. Maybe...

oregon
 
Here is a link to a smaller version only 72 mb. It was a very open review, and very informative, its not your normal laptop and there is a lot said that may sway you one way or another.
 
Here's a review at notebookreview.com

I work in computer systems support and my co-worker/friend bought one of these eeePCs on release day. He went to pick it up during lunch and brought it back. Everyone in the department came over to oooh and aaahh over it. The female co-workers went "awww, that's soo cute" when they saw it.

My impressions of it:

It's small, very small, even the AC adapter is small. Our regular issue 15" Toshiba Tecra laptops are literally twice as big as this thing. It's pretty darn quick when it's running the stock Linux OS, BUT, and this is a big BUT, you only have about 2GB worth of free space on the 4GB solid state drive (SSD). The Linux OS takes up half the storage space, which kind of sucks.

The next thing is... the keyboard is small. I have average sized hands (I wear medium sized gloves) and I find the keyboard small. I'm a touch typist and I can't touch type on this keyboard because of the small keys. I actually have to do the 2-finger hunt & peck style typing.

It has no built in optical (CD/DVD) drive, so if you need to use a CD/DVD, you will need to buy an external USB CD/DVD drive. There's no PC Card slot, so there's no expandability there. It does have 3 USB, 1 VGA-out, 1 SD card reader slot, 1 LAN jack, 0.3megapixel webcam (which is surprisingly good). Oh yeah, there's only 1 memory slot, so if you want to upgrade the RAM, you will have to replace it with a 1GB or 2GB stick of DD2-667 SODIMM. Also, the stock Linux OS only recognized 1GB of RAM (BIOS sees the 2GB). Windows XP will recognize the 2GB with no problems. There is 1 more expansion slot that people are speculating is going to be used for expanding the SSD, not the RAM.

Now the good parts, it's small. :D My friend's original intention with this notebook is to use it as a travelling notebook, in hotels, friend's house, etc. He actually has 2 other laptops at home, an older 15" and a slightly newer 17" laptop, and he hates lugging those around to travel with. They're just waaay too big and heavy. This eeePC weighs UNDER 2.5 lbs with the adapter.

I see this notebook as a very niche product. It can't do a lot of the stuff bigger notebooks can, but it's not meant to. I'd think of it more as a super powered PDA with WiFi than a "proper" notebook. Mind you, it's still pretty versatile. It can play all types of media files (mp3, divx, etc) so you can use it as a media player. It recognizes an iPod without installing anything extra (using stock Linux OS) as well as USB memory sticks and USB hard drives. It can play games too (if you're running WinXP). We managed to get Guild Wars, World of Warcraft, and Neverwinter Nights (old one) running. It's a bit laggy sometimes, even at the lowest settings, and you kind of have to pan up-and-down because games want to run at 800x600, but the screen is only 800x480. But they are playable.

My friend ended up buying 1GB ram ($20), 8GB SD card ($90), and installing Windows XP on it (he needed to VPN into work). He's pretty happy with it so far. Personally, I'm waiting for the 8GB SSD version to come out and see how much that is before deciding to buy it or not. There's also going to be a black one out soon, before xmas is what I've read for the black one. Not sure exactly when for the 8GB version.
 
Here is a link to a smaller version only 72 mb.

Thank you Thujone for the smaller download. My system ground away at it for over an hour but couldn't deliver it to my eyes and ears. Out here in the sticks with the hicks life is primitive with dialup.

oregon
 
I actually own one and use it. I've installed XP on mine. It's fairly fast given it's specs.

The KB is small but once you get used to it it's fine to use. It's not thinkpad keyboard but it'll do.

The wireless is excellent, the best of any laptop I've used. Signal strength and range is excellent, it's on par with my Thinkpad with 3 Antennas and Wireless N card.

The EEE does get rather warm when in use.

The screen is excellent viewing angles are almost on par with the Flexview Thinkpad screens. The LED backlighting can outstandingly bright.

Battery life is in the range of 3.5-4 hours. This is the only laptop where the rated battery life is dead on and slightly underrated.

The sound on the EEE is VERY VERY impressive. It's loud and clear slightly lacking in bass. But for a machine of it's size it's very very good.

Build feels solid without the machine being too heavy.
 
I actually own one and use it. I've installed XP on mine. It's fairly fast given it's specs.

Thank you very much tebore. It sounds like the Eee is delivering on its promise. Sweet. Everyone should have one.

oregon
 
I had $200 set aside to buy one, and was considering buying a second if my wife and I both liked it.

As the price climbed, I was willing to go for it, but as it climbed past $250, I started thinking it was getting ridiculous.

I'm not paying $400 for a $200 laptop.

If they reduce the price down to where it was originally supposed to be, or within ten or fifteen percent, then I'll reconsider--if something better hasn't come along by then.
 
You're right about the price being an issue: Dell has laptops for $100 more (with free shipping).

The appeal for me is also the size and weight. Most laptops I see are bigger and heavier than I want to lug around. The EEE PC splits the difference between a laptop and a PDA.

If they come down under $300, I'll grab one.

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
Im waiting for the 8 GB version. For those looking at the price, rather than compare to a 4 or even 6 or 8 pound Dell, compare it to another 2 lb notebook like a Sony. A Sony with 1 GB of RAM and a 64 GB solid state hard drive, so quite a bit bigger than the Asus, isnt remotely priced like the Asus however. Im looking at prices of over $3800 for the Sony. That is more or less 10 times the price of the Asus. Other roughly 2 lb notebooks with smaller solid state drives can be had for about half the price of the Sony, but still 3-4 times the price of the Asus. I think this thing is a steal at this price for a subnotebook. If you dont need the small size, I would probably agree. But I travel a bunch, and this thing is going in my bag.
 
The 8 Gig is out priced at 499. I don't think it's worth it.

You're better off getting the 4gig and getting the PCI-E SSD from Sandisk later on.
 
I'm in the market for a new laptop with a solid state drive. 8 GB just isn't enough memory, and I'd want a minimum of 20 GB. I guess I need to wait a little longer.
 
The 8 Gig is out priced at 499. I don't think it's worth it.

You're better off getting the 4gig and getting the PCI-E SSD from Sandisk later on.

Thats a good point. Im going back on forth on this a lot. I think if it were just the 4 gb to 8 gb I would agree completely. The 8 gb also has 1 gb of RAM, up from 512 mb. Specifically, I want to run Evolution on it as a mail client with Exchange Connect and I might want to try XP on it. I think the extra RAM and to a lesser extent, storage might be useful for those particular applications. In terms of total storage, you can put an 8 or 16 gig SD card in it and get probably as much storage for files as one would need. The 4 gb is really designed just for programs I think, and is probably enough for that. For people who need a lot of storage, the Passport hard drives from Western Digital are a good solution. Something like 160 gb for $99.
 
It's getting really tempting! It would be great to have a highly portable computer for conferences, travel, etc. A full-sized laptop is just too darned big for my needs. I want something that fits in a regular bag, along with other stuff. This looks like it!

IIRC, this machine features a very quick boot sequence -- not as quick as the "instant on" of a PDA -- but substantially faster than the slow boot of my old Toshiba laptop.

Besides, running Linux helps thwart a lot of those requests to "use your laptop for few minutes" requests, especially if you can reduce the screen to a command line prompt! :devil:

Am I the only one who's tempted?

Regards,
Dirty Bob
 
All of us who travel frequently are tempted by the Asustek EEE! Who doesn't want 1/2 to 1/3 the size and weight, plus maybe even not have to carry head/speaker phones?

But....Asustek knows this very well, also, and I think they've tweaked the specs and the price to do quite a bit of price gouging while other companies have not come out with comparable offerings.

I've seen them change the specs and the price, to make sure you really can't get a useable machine at the bottom specs (1/2 Gig mem and 2 Gig HD space), and then they doubled the price to get what should have been the baseline (4 Gig HD space, meaning you actually have 2 Gig to use for non OS purposes).

Then, you have to ante up to get the 1 Gig mem (also a minimum spec) and VOID THE WARRANTY to do it yourself. Plus any other mods (like adding more HD space via the internal expansion slot) ALSO VOIDS THE WARRANTY. So basically they get you to accept a warrantless machine on top of paying twice the price.

Yet again, this pc is actually supposed to be pitched at poor students (a competitor to the One Laptop Per Child project, and part of the Intel competing Classmate platform). But obviously these companies are eyeing the business travellers (and travellers more generally) so they are putting obstacles and raising the price. (the One Laptop per Child will sell you one but at twice the price, donating one laptop somewhere).

Looking ahead, I think eventually we'll get an acceptable machine that is something like this in formfactor and tones down the price gouging games.

My bottom line specs: 2 Gig mem, 8 Gig solid state HD. Plus, in a few months, Asustek EEE will migrate to the Merom family of Intel mobile chips, adding a lot to the runtime (though not necessarily to the chip computing power as such).

I think these specs are minimum, and they should also allow you to run some windows programs in a windows virtual pc environment that runs under Linux if you need to.

So this is a great first step, personally I'll wait for v2.0, or maybe even v3.1 will be the sweet spot.
 
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