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Originally posted by sunspot:
I need to get a couple and pop them in the good olde PALlight.
Crap, Saaby. You passed my post count.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The lithium 9V I tried in my Palight was too big to fit.
 
They sell them in stores now too, under the E2 "lithium" label...like the same label they sell AAs and photo batteries under...
 
I need to get a couple and pop them in the good olde PALlight.
Crap, Saaby. You passed my post count.
 
You should also look around for places selling home fire alarms - 9v lithiums are commonly sold for them.
 
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sunspot...be careful putting a lithium 9V in a PAL Light. You can get it in, but you'll play HELL getting it back out. They're slightly wider and deeper than an alkaline 9V, and it makes for a VERY snug fit in the PAL Light. I managed to get one out of my PAL Light, but it was a MFer!!! I used the Ultralife brand found at RadioShack. I don't know if the Energizer brand is the same size, or if it's the same as an alkaline 9V.

PJD

...there is nothing in the world more frustrating than a lousy beam...
 
I have used lithium's in the PAL, but they are so close to alkaline I didn't leave it in there. (it was a tight fit). Since the brightness barely went up I took it back out. With the light running all the time you will run an alkaline dead before it would expire anyway. I have my first PAL on the same battery just sitting there, it is 2 years old and about 1/3 the initial brightness of a fresh battery. So you don't get anymore "shelf life" from the light using lithiums. The only advantage I can see is lighter weight and cold weather operation won't dim as much (maybe good for a glove box up here in winter)?
 
Kodak has had 9V Lithiums out for ages. Sorry, they are also oversized.

Now a question:

If I pop open a Kodak lithium 9V, do I find six lithim AAAA's? And what about this warning on the battery:

"May leak and/or flame
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if opened, " etc. How nervous/cautious should I be? I really want some lithium AAAA's for a flashlight mod. Any advice?

Thanks,
Sal
 
Originally posted by Kill-O-Zap:
Kodak has had 9V Lithiums out for ages. Sorry, they are also oversized.

Now a question:

If I pop open a Kodak lithium 9V, do I find six lithim AAAA's? And what about this warning on the battery:

"May leak and/or flame
shocked.gif
if opened, " etc. How nervous/cautious should I be? I really want some lithium AAAA's for a flashlight mod. Any advice?

Thanks,
Sal
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Does not contain 6 cells. Composed of 3 cells of about 3V each.
 
Doug S
Thanks. Disappointed. But intrigued. I have one of these in my hand right now, still in the package. I bought it today only *minutes* before my earlier post (total coincidence) with the intent of pulling out 6 AAAA cells. Now that plan is shot, but 3 3V cells, hmmm, what could I do with those? Or just bring this (expensive) battery back to the store...

Does the fact that you know what's inside these things imply that you did open one up and lived to tell the tale? No flames or anything spectacular like that?
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--Sal
 
Originally posted by Kill-O-Zap:
Doug S
Does the fact that you know what's inside these things imply that you did open one up and lived to tell the tale? No flames or anything spectacular like that?
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--Sal
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No, and No. BTW, I have violated the casing of LiSO2 cells [from a safe distance]. That definitely involves flames and other spectacular stuff
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Anyone thinking of opening a battery should check the web site of its manufacturer first. The sites often have information about what you will find inside. In the case of alkaline 9Vs it is useful to look at its IEC number, IEC 6LF61 is for 6-AAAA 9Vs, while 6LF22 is for batteries with strips of flat cells.
As to the lithium, was it designed to be larger on purpose? When I was a kid, it was explained to me that mercury 9Vs(actually 8.4V) where shorter then other 9Vs on purpose.(as are current zinc-air 9V-types) This was done so that products needing a mercury battery could not be fitted with another type by mistake, but that the mercury batteries could still be used as a substitute for other battery types in other products. Could lithium 9Vs be larger, so that they won't fit in uses where they aren't recommended?
 
Originally posted by jimmyc:
(as are current zinc-air 9V-types)
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't think I've met one of these. Got a reference I can look at, I'm curious. I've recently purchased a bunch of the zinc-air cell phone batteries that turned out not to be all that popular at reatil stores.
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$.50 (USD) each, not bad for 3.7V (ish) 3.4Ah batteries.
 
Its the Eveready AC146X listed on their website http://data.energizer.com/ as a medical battery in their zinc-air section. I checked the Dura-cell site and they also have a version, although it's 8.1V as opposed to the Energizer's 8.4V.
 
Wow, thinner, shorter, lighter, and about twice the Ah rating. Very cool. I imagine they cost an arm and a leg, though. Normal unobtanioum.
 
That page also has their "Medical" 9v lithium battery. Anyone know a source for either type?

And a search of the site for AAAA cells turns up what must be the individual cells that go into their alkaline IEC 6LF61 9-volt battery, noticeably shorter and thinner than the consumer model AAAA cell.
 
I chopped a 9V lithium open with a machete once, and posted about it a couple years ago. I remember three plastic rectangular blocks, covered with a slimy greasy substance you wouldn't want to play with..and no easy way that I could see to connect wires to them...maybe it's worth another look see?
 
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