Are all AW LiFePO4 RCR batts 500 mAH?

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I'm thinking of getting the new Jet beam MS2 light and they just released a bulletin that normal RCR's are not supported with the exception of the AW LiFePO4.
I'm not familiar with the battery and was looking it up on line and found not only does it cost more, it has less volts and only 1/2 the mAH of regular RCR's. Are there higher capacity ones out there?

Thanks
 
LiFePO4 Li-Ion cells are generally about half the capacity of LiCo cells. Keep in mind though, while this may seem to be a disadvantage, that most LiFe cells can be charged 2000 times vs. most other chemistry Li-Ion cell's 300-500. Their shelf life is about twice as long as well, something like 10 years, as opposed to LiCo cell's 3-5 years.

Dave
 
One of the nice things of LiFePO4 is lower voltage compared to LiCO and IMR but same high current capabilites as IMR cells and safer chemistry than LiCO (like IMR).

You have to watch it on the discharge rate of LiFePO4 cells. Some of the smaller sizes are limited to a 1C discharge rate, but for the most part, they are higher.

Dave
 
You have to watch it on the discharge rate of LiFePO4 cells. Some of the smaller sizes are limited to a 1C discharge rate, but for the most part, they are higher.

Dave

I've seen that rating on a few cell specs on websites and sometimes it is in error (ie: they just copied the info from another cell chemistry) but other times I do wonder about that. This is a similar chemistry to A123's Lithium nano-Phosphate technology so a reliable cell shold be able to produce some punch.
 
......I've seen that rating on a few cell specs on websites and sometimes it is in error (ie: they just copied the info from another cell chemistry)......

As with any type of cell, there are a lot of variables due to the actual components the cell is constructed of. While the chemistry of a cell may be capable of producing large amounts of current, cells can be limited by other factors, such as the means by which current is delivered to the + and - contacts of the cell. These components are not directly related to the chemistry itself.

The LiFePO4 123 cell from batteryspace.com for example, is limited to 1C. I've seen other RCR123 and CR2 LifePO4 cells, and I think some LiFePO4 14500's that were limited to a 1C charge/discharge rate, or less, as well.

As for the distributors being in error when writing up the cell info, this 9 Volt LiFePO4, also from BatterySpace, is a good example. From the writeup it sounds as if this battery is capable of being charged at 500mA (2.8C) and discharged at a 5C (0.9A) rate. However, if you look at the .pdf, it's really only capable of 0.5C charge and discharge rates (0.09A/0.09A).

As I said before, the C rates for smaller LiFePO4 cells seem to be lower, but do vary. Once you get up to the 18650 size, rates are generally higher than for LiCo Li-Ion cells, but can still vary from 1C to 30C, depending on the construction of the cells.

Dave
 
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Sorry, a bit off topic I suppose, but I emailed Batteryspace after posting the above post. Max emailed back and said they would correct the information on their 9Volt LiFe. Apparently both the web page and the .pdf were modified. I'm still not sure it's correct, but anyway....

Dave
 
A month or so ago, I asked AW what the max safe continuous discharge rate on his LiFePO4 123s was and he said 4A(8C).
 

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