Tana
Flashlight Enthusiast
Hello everybody...
It's been a while since I posted anything on CPF... the reason is that I quit overseas deployment and been spending last four months trying to make up for three years of absence from home and loved ones... which is impossible...
But while I was over there, I was active with reading and also buying lego Surefire and clone items for my collection that I have now... It really helped me with keeping my mind busy and forgetting harsh surroundings I worked in... so...
Out of all that I started even making my own custom P60 pills... Thanks to lot of documentation on the net and especially CPF but also few awesome CPF members I succeeded in making few items that I loved and still use... The last thing soldered "overseas" was mod to LumensFactory E series black head and their proprietary pill and changing XPG with poor tint to Nichia 219 emitter... the same one was used by me in the last 5 months as EDC on my belt and I LOVED it... BUT...
My main idea was to make one super small flashlight to be my EDC/backup light that will be with me all the time... the body of choice was Vital Gear FB1-BK as it was cool looking, short, clipped and able to tailstand... the mentioned LF E-series head modded with Nicha-219 was mounted as light engine... well, until few days ago... as I succeeded turning my plan into reality after few months of not dealing with flashlights at all (except for using them when needed at dark fall nights)...
It all started as a scheme... some measuring, planning, thinking has turned into this scheme...
Basically all needed coordinates and measurements... the idea was to use complete incan E-series head that will be bored out to 20mm wide and 15.75mm depth to accommodate custom pill that will have mounted Triple-XPG (Triple-219) LED's with optics... However, the pill could have been made in few different ways... I tried avoiding making part that would protrude into body once head is screwed as for thickness of the pill... driver, being 17mm wide would be about the same width as the body so the edge of the pill would be VERY thin and still some grinding would needed to be done... so I just decided to make simple pill without parts entering the body but the (+) spring...
In order to do so I needed more room above pill in order to have at least 3mm heatsink as part of the pill... enter MiniMag bezel part with Lighthound MiniMag mineral glass... this solution gave me about 2mm of extra room for LED star to be mounted... it does look a little phoney at first but I went the common sense way for "prototype" - practicality way... So the whole light was supposed to look like this:
This thing is TINY... I just loved it the first time I put it together as empty shell w/o LED's and electronics... and it sit on my shelf for months waiting patiently to be put together... As for majority of people, even if I had have found the time, I didn't have a lathe to do what needed to be done to the head and to make the pill out of brass... so finally few days ago I went to my "distant friend" (as I know the guy but not my real friend) who has gun repair shop and has all these cool tools/toys to play with... so we created this "pact" where I would help him with his regular job fixing few hunting rifles and he would help me machine the head and pill as per schematics... so about 6 hours of helping him and about 15-20 mins of him following my instructions the following items were ready...
The parts were fresh from the workshop so no sanding of rough edges was done at the time of taking pics...
So the "most difficult" part was done for majority of us amateurs... now we need Triple-LED star and optics... IlluminationSupply was the shop of choice for teflon wire, optics and Triple-XPG R4 5000K star (gotta love neutral beam AND didn't go with Nichia-219 right away as this was prototype with no firm results but high expectations)... bought few months ago in 4-5 each part quantity to be used "once I'm retired"... The driver used was from Solarforce 0.8-4.2V XPG 3-Mode drop-in... it's cheap, it's good quality and rather good driver for exactly what I need... the possibility to run 1xCR123, 1xLiIon, 1xAA, 2xAA is just great in my eyes even if some people will find faults in this driver (i'm speculating here that they will but who knows)... I bought a digital soldering station (that in the end proved to be HORRIBLE and will be replaced ASAP - RadioShack one but one has ToolCraft as brand on it - couldn't keep the tip of the chisel hot enough to melt solder even on max setting)...
So after some rough cursing on my end but also "the nerves of steel" I succeeded making a whole pill with LED and driver in place... I believe few joints are cold-solder but I was just happy when I connected AA battery and saw it shining...
The pill is removable and it's easy to slide out once MiniMag bezel ring is removed so it can be interchangeable with any future pill/heads I make (hopefully... few parts of mm during lathe job and fitting might be not possible but I can always use this head in parts to give to my friend to get exact measurement for any future head I make - and I plan 2 or 3 more with different LED's/drivers)... So the complete light with comparison to E1E and my already former EDC light (this light is great... great throw, great battery life, great modes, some buzzing on low and medium and no mode switching once left too long on high but just LOVE the mode changing with short memory inbetween off/on that allows mode change making me sure that I ALWAYS start the flashlight on low mode as I left it before)...
My new EDC/backup is FLOODY with short throw as you would expect... it's not pushed hard at all, current draw of the driver with CR123 battery being 60mA/240mA/680mA... so about 2hrs on high from one primary, forever on low mode...
However... the same head installed on FiveMega E-18650 custom body with AW 3100mAh battery is a completely different beast pulling flat 2 Amps from the cell on high - delivering around 650-700mA to each LED... I believe it gives at least 500 OTF floody lumens at start-up but gets warm rather quick... 20-30 seconds and already warm on touch... in close future will have to do more thorough tests to see how hot it gets in what time... also have to try using IMR cell that will give even more amps to each LED on high... but this light is mainly going to be used with primary cell and just enough lumens for my eyes on low or high... it will only be used with big setup to impress people for few seconds and that's it...
Hope you enjoyed the read and hopefully I will have more projects with more pics and steps described...
It's been a while since I posted anything on CPF... the reason is that I quit overseas deployment and been spending last four months trying to make up for three years of absence from home and loved ones... which is impossible...
But while I was over there, I was active with reading and also buying lego Surefire and clone items for my collection that I have now... It really helped me with keeping my mind busy and forgetting harsh surroundings I worked in... so...
Out of all that I started even making my own custom P60 pills... Thanks to lot of documentation on the net and especially CPF but also few awesome CPF members I succeeded in making few items that I loved and still use... The last thing soldered "overseas" was mod to LumensFactory E series black head and their proprietary pill and changing XPG with poor tint to Nichia 219 emitter... the same one was used by me in the last 5 months as EDC on my belt and I LOVED it... BUT...
My main idea was to make one super small flashlight to be my EDC/backup light that will be with me all the time... the body of choice was Vital Gear FB1-BK as it was cool looking, short, clipped and able to tailstand... the mentioned LF E-series head modded with Nicha-219 was mounted as light engine... well, until few days ago... as I succeeded turning my plan into reality after few months of not dealing with flashlights at all (except for using them when needed at dark fall nights)...
It all started as a scheme... some measuring, planning, thinking has turned into this scheme...
Basically all needed coordinates and measurements... the idea was to use complete incan E-series head that will be bored out to 20mm wide and 15.75mm depth to accommodate custom pill that will have mounted Triple-XPG (Triple-219) LED's with optics... However, the pill could have been made in few different ways... I tried avoiding making part that would protrude into body once head is screwed as for thickness of the pill... driver, being 17mm wide would be about the same width as the body so the edge of the pill would be VERY thin and still some grinding would needed to be done... so I just decided to make simple pill without parts entering the body but the (+) spring...
In order to do so I needed more room above pill in order to have at least 3mm heatsink as part of the pill... enter MiniMag bezel part with Lighthound MiniMag mineral glass... this solution gave me about 2mm of extra room for LED star to be mounted... it does look a little phoney at first but I went the common sense way for "prototype" - practicality way... So the whole light was supposed to look like this:
This thing is TINY... I just loved it the first time I put it together as empty shell w/o LED's and electronics... and it sit on my shelf for months waiting patiently to be put together... As for majority of people, even if I had have found the time, I didn't have a lathe to do what needed to be done to the head and to make the pill out of brass... so finally few days ago I went to my "distant friend" (as I know the guy but not my real friend) who has gun repair shop and has all these cool tools/toys to play with... so we created this "pact" where I would help him with his regular job fixing few hunting rifles and he would help me machine the head and pill as per schematics... so about 6 hours of helping him and about 15-20 mins of him following my instructions the following items were ready...
The parts were fresh from the workshop so no sanding of rough edges was done at the time of taking pics...
So the "most difficult" part was done for majority of us amateurs... now we need Triple-LED star and optics... IlluminationSupply was the shop of choice for teflon wire, optics and Triple-XPG R4 5000K star (gotta love neutral beam AND didn't go with Nichia-219 right away as this was prototype with no firm results but high expectations)... bought few months ago in 4-5 each part quantity to be used "once I'm retired"... The driver used was from Solarforce 0.8-4.2V XPG 3-Mode drop-in... it's cheap, it's good quality and rather good driver for exactly what I need... the possibility to run 1xCR123, 1xLiIon, 1xAA, 2xAA is just great in my eyes even if some people will find faults in this driver (i'm speculating here that they will but who knows)... I bought a digital soldering station (that in the end proved to be HORRIBLE and will be replaced ASAP - RadioShack one but one has ToolCraft as brand on it - couldn't keep the tip of the chisel hot enough to melt solder even on max setting)...
So after some rough cursing on my end but also "the nerves of steel" I succeeded making a whole pill with LED and driver in place... I believe few joints are cold-solder but I was just happy when I connected AA battery and saw it shining...
The pill is removable and it's easy to slide out once MiniMag bezel ring is removed so it can be interchangeable with any future pill/heads I make (hopefully... few parts of mm during lathe job and fitting might be not possible but I can always use this head in parts to give to my friend to get exact measurement for any future head I make - and I plan 2 or 3 more with different LED's/drivers)... So the complete light with comparison to E1E and my already former EDC light (this light is great... great throw, great battery life, great modes, some buzzing on low and medium and no mode switching once left too long on high but just LOVE the mode changing with short memory inbetween off/on that allows mode change making me sure that I ALWAYS start the flashlight on low mode as I left it before)...
My new EDC/backup is FLOODY with short throw as you would expect... it's not pushed hard at all, current draw of the driver with CR123 battery being 60mA/240mA/680mA... so about 2hrs on high from one primary, forever on low mode...
However... the same head installed on FiveMega E-18650 custom body with AW 3100mAh battery is a completely different beast pulling flat 2 Amps from the cell on high - delivering around 650-700mA to each LED... I believe it gives at least 500 OTF floody lumens at start-up but gets warm rather quick... 20-30 seconds and already warm on touch... in close future will have to do more thorough tests to see how hot it gets in what time... also have to try using IMR cell that will give even more amps to each LED on high... but this light is mainly going to be used with primary cell and just enough lumens for my eyes on low or high... it will only be used with big setup to impress people for few seconds and that's it...
Hope you enjoyed the read and hopefully I will have more projects with more pics and steps described...
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